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20/20 glosses over shooter's motives (blames "stress"); Ignores hero who stopped the massacre

Posted on 11/07/2009 6:08:05 AM PST by American Infidel

My apologies if this a duplicate. I didn't see this posted. I couldn't help but notice on ABC's 20/20 'report' on the Fort Hood shooting last night, that they went out of their way to blame "stress" for the shooting despite the fact that the shooter had never been deployed anywhere, nor had he ever been on the battle field. Although they did touch upon his islamic jihadi tendencies of late, they didn't dare point to that as the motive.

They also only gave a brief (literally 10-15 seconds) mention of the heroic woman (Kimberly Munley)who stopped the killer's rampage by... big surprise... shooting him. This completely destroyed the premise of one of their previous stories claiming that having a gun in such a situation doesn't make you any safer. Really? It seems that the massacre only came to an end when someone with a gun showed up to neutralize the threat.


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Media bias rears its ugly head yet again to minimize the jihadist motive of a mass murderer and to ignore the heroic actions of an armed citizen (civilian officer)in ending the rampage of the islamic killer.
1 posted on 11/07/2009 6:08:06 AM PST by American Infidel
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To: American Infidel

I got as far as Brian Ross’ pathetic excuse for journalism bit and had to turn this off. It was such a slam against our military that it almost made me puke.


2 posted on 11/07/2009 6:10:16 AM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger (The Media Lied & Soldiers Died)
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To: American Infidel

STRESS! This evil person hasn’t ever worked out of anything but an air conditioned office, much less seen the battlefield.


3 posted on 11/07/2009 6:10:52 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("When you strike one American, you strike us all" ( President George W. Bush))
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To: American Infidel

one can only imagine how many more would have been killed/wounded had she not shown up with a gun and stopped him..

no mention of how many more rounds/magazines he had on him when he went down..


4 posted on 11/07/2009 6:11:47 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (A moderate muslim is one who is simply buying time to reload..)
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To: American Infidel
20/20 on ABC; All
5 posted on 11/07/2009 6:12:36 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: American Infidel
Media bias rears its ugly head yet again

And again...
And again...
and Oh...again...
And again...

6 posted on 11/07/2009 6:13:30 AM PST by Ganndy (back to Lurking...)
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To: Ganndy

Who knew? PTSD is contagious.


7 posted on 11/07/2009 6:15:15 AM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: American Infidel

Liberal deflection. Everyone at the base had “stress,” as do we all.

We’re all very well familiarized with this sort of deflection by now. “Poverty causes crime,” ignores the many people in straitened circumstances who are utterly and completely honest.

“Guns cause violence.” They, of course, do not.

There are any number of such fuzzy-thinking Liberal deflections in current use.

The causative factor was personal lunacy, greatly aggravated by the idiotic tenets of Islam. Period.


8 posted on 11/07/2009 6:15:25 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: American Infidel

If Hasan can have PTSD because of the “stories” he heard, then anyone who has seen war movies or read about war can also be afflicted. Should be an outbreak of “stress related shootings” any day now.


9 posted on 11/07/2009 6:15:58 AM PST by Clink (The more you complain, the longer God lets you live.)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger

The media continues to show how irrelevant they have become.


10 posted on 11/07/2009 6:18:11 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: American Infidel
Even FOX, the so called fair and balanced have bought into the "poor, depressed man needed help" story line that all of the MSM is now using.

This makes me ill.

11 posted on 11/07/2009 6:21:29 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: American Infidel
Hasan openly opposed America's foreign policy, on multiple occassions. He was appalled at being called up to Aghanistan, believing it was wrong for Muslims to be killing Muslims (as if though that has ever stopped them in their own lands). He spoke of more Muslims needing to rise up against America after the Little Rock Arkansas recruiter killing. He posted on the internet likening Islamic suicide bombers to American GIs that jump on a grenade to save their friends.

I do not blame other officers and soldiers for ostracizing the man or calling him on his open comments where he was siding with the enemy. I blame Hasan himself, and the system that kept him in place after he so openly opposed his own and sided with the enemy. The man should have certainly been nowhere near soldiers returning from or shipping out to the war zone...and should have been drummed uncerimoniously and without honor out of the service.

This was a case of Jihad within the ranks plain and simple, like Sgt. Akbar's despicable actions in 2003.

Hopefully this Jihadist will get the same sentence as Akbar got and they both will be more quickly carried out.

Obama's response (or more appropriately named, non-response) has also been disgusting, IMHO.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

12 posted on 11/07/2009 6:22:46 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Coldwater Creek

Or, as Mark Steyn said yesterday - this is the first case of pre-Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

The Ministry of Truth is on full alert and working poor Winston Smith overtime.


13 posted on 11/07/2009 6:23:19 AM PST by chickadee
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To: American Infidel
"...the heroic woman (Kimberly Munley), who stopped the killer's rampage by... big surprise... shooting him."

Whenever you have a bad with guy with a gun, it takes a good guy (or gal) with a gun to stop him. This is a simple truth that the CommieLib media can't face.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

14 posted on 11/07/2009 6:28:57 AM PST by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: American Infidel

There have been reports he was (a) on anti-depressants and (b) ex alcoholic; anyone else heard anything ?

I can certainly understand how someone could be very affected and stressed by seeing the wounded and hearing their stories but this in no way justifies his actions. Also, I believe there was a strong degree of premeditation here, it wasn’t a sudden “snapping”.

You just know the army shunted him off to Texas when he became a problem at Walter Reid, corporations do this sort of thing all the time, it’s easier than firing someone - as he should have been years ago.


15 posted on 11/07/2009 6:31:49 AM PST by 1066AD
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To: American Infidel
they went out of their way to blame "stress" for the shooting


16 posted on 11/07/2009 6:32:47 AM PST by Bobalu (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: American Infidel

This Islamic religious Zealot was doing no more than following the teachings of the quoran on how to deal with Infidels.
He wasn’t about to go, and he chose to take out as many soldiers who were deploying to thet area of the world to fight the Terrorists there..

He is no more than most of the Islamo Fascists who have sworn a Death Oath to kill all non Muslims.
He is at best a Cowardly Thug.


17 posted on 11/07/2009 6:33:44 AM PST by chatham
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To: American Infidel
0bama said not to ‘jump to conclusions’ which is PC speak for “if he's a Democrat or a Muzlem (or both), he's innocent.”

The Muzlems, including his Imam and CAIR, are stressing that he's an “American.” Sorry, guys but AMERICANS don't try to find a “strict Muzlem wife” who prays 5 times a day and wears a hijab.

He was having trouble as a MUZLEM, not as an American Military Man.

I hate Politically Correct speech. Should be changed to Patriotically Correct speech.

18 posted on 11/07/2009 6:34:19 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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To: American Infidel

All of the media pop-psychologists are using a VERY VERY small amount of evidence that mental health professionals can be effected by working with patients with mental illness. However, mental health professionals have greater access to help and have the training to know how to deal with it. This is comparable to an obese cardiologist who smokes developing heart disease. Is it because he works with people who have heart problems day in and day out? NO! Is it because is job is stressful? NO!!

I believe the media is going to severely overreach on this one. By trying to convince the public that this was caused by PTSD is absolutely unconvincing at best.


19 posted on 11/07/2009 6:34:56 AM PST by Jackson57
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To: Bad Jack Bauer

That would be P(re)TSD. Hasan was reliving memories he didn’t yet have. Muslims can do that ya know.


20 posted on 11/07/2009 6:45:08 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: American Infidel

Isn’t it all somehow Rush Limbaugh’s fault? Like Okla. City?

/SARC


21 posted on 11/07/2009 7:23:41 AM PST by Mac from Cleveland (Dreams from My Father--(food, shelter, and education from some typical white folks)
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To: American Infidel

Did anybody see the Fox & Friends interview with the Ft. Hood Chaplain this mornning?

They made a point that political correctness by the Army prevented them from addressing Hasan’s radical Islamic tendencies, but then tried to blur out the Cross patch on the beret of the chaplain that held a service last night at Ft. Hood.

Reminded me of the scene in the “Best Little Whorehouse in Texas” when Dom Deloise was accusing Sheriff Ed Earl of being a phony while putting on a corsett and shoulder pads before doing an on-camera interview. I e-mailed to point out their ridiculous hypocrisy . . . I know it won’t help.


22 posted on 11/07/2009 7:55:50 AM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: American Infidel

23 posted on 11/07/2009 8:23:04 AM PST by Wisky Business
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