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Neighbors aim to silence Old Ironsides’ cannons
Boston Herald ^ | 11/7/2009 | Hillary Chabot

Posted on 11/06/2009 11:20:19 PM PST by Saije

Old Ironsides’ upscale Charlestown neighbors are trying to pull off what British, French and Barbary pirate guns failed to accomplish in more than two centuries - silencing the cannons of the nation’s oldest commissioned naval vessel.

Miffed residents of a posh condo complex have invited the commanding officer of the USS Constitution over for a glass of wine so he can hear for himself that the frigate’s twice-daily cannon blasts - a tradition dating to 1798 - are “more disruptive to the neighborhood than you might have imagined.”

Commanding Officer Timothy Cooper received the most recent complaint two weeks ago from neighbors suggesting naval officers assigned to the historic vessel eliminate the morning and evening blasts on weekends, reduce the size of the gunpowder charge and turn down the volume of the national anthem recording played during the daily flag raising and lowering ceremonies.

“The residential population and congestion of this area has (sic) grown significantly and, it seems to us, that the cannon charge/noise is excessive,” the unidentified resident first wrote in an Aug. 26, 2009, letter obtained by the Herald.

High-end condominium developments have sprung up across from the Charlestown Navy Yard over the past decade, transforming the once hardscrabble waterfront into a toney enclave.

“Over the summer, we have entertained several times, and we have had guests sit up in shock when the cannon goes off,” the resident wrote. “It has also awakened them at 8 a.m. while they are vacationing and then blasted them again at sunset.”

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


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1 posted on 11/06/2009 11:20:20 PM PST by Saije
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To: Saije

Not to worry, perhaps soon they can complain about the muezzin’s call to prayer five times a day rather than two.


2 posted on 11/06/2009 11:24:38 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Saije

Uhmm... F.U., shove it up your nether regions sideways and howl at the moon.


3 posted on 11/06/2009 11:25:02 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Saije
Bull.

I live on the other side of the bay from these people and have never--ever--EVER heard this "disruption."

When I say other side, btw, I don't mean Southie, I mean the North End.

Bull.

4 posted on 11/06/2009 11:29:54 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Nothing is more exhilarating than philistine vulgarity.-- Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: Saije

Tell ‘em to stuff cotton in their ears. Old Ironsides’ cannons were there long before their damned condo existed.


5 posted on 11/06/2009 11:30:34 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Saije

Double the charge, put a ball in the canon and aim it at condo.


6 posted on 11/06/2009 11:31:54 PM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: Saije

How do they not know this when they buy or rent in that area?


7 posted on 11/06/2009 11:31:59 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Saije

Time to give the whiners a whiff of grapeshot!


8 posted on 11/06/2009 11:32:18 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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To: Saije

My reply would be to pull along side the condo building and let loose with a broadside of grapeshot.Twice a day until they strike their colors.Probably a good reason why I am not in command but I cant think of it.


9 posted on 11/06/2009 11:32:23 PM PST by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Maybe the good Captian should start puting hot shot into the guns, eh:-)

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


10 posted on 11/06/2009 11:32:47 PM PST by alfa6
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To: Saije

They are democrat voters who are polluting the neighborhood.

Maybe a daily 21 gun salute will drive the vermin away!


11 posted on 11/06/2009 11:33:47 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: alfa6

Blow their white wine-sipping yuppie asses into Medford.


12 posted on 11/06/2009 11:35:10 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Nothing is more exhilarating than philistine vulgarity.-- Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: Saije

The cannons were around before you. You don’t like it. Move.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 11:36:06 PM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Saije; raccoonradio; warsaw44; GOPsterinMA; SamAdams76
Obama voters.

Yep.

14 posted on 11/06/2009 11:36:40 PM PST by nutmeg (Madame Speaker: TEAR UP THIS BILL!!!)
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To: BigCinBigD
Double the charge, put a ball in the canon and aim it at condo.

Seems like a good fix to the situation, (in my best pirate's voice) Haaarrr!

15 posted on 11/06/2009 11:41:15 PM PST by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: nutmeg; neverdem; narses; patton; CPOSharky; Doohickey
Best I can tell ... It's ONE (Obama) voter who is complaining.

Of course, that ONE person is going to bring the lawsuit - Obama is going to cave (Kerry will surrender even faster!) - and we will lose our heritage.

16 posted on 11/06/2009 11:46:01 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Saije
These people bought their homes knowing about the activities of the ship. They may have even bought them at a reduced price because of the activities. Now, they want to stop those activities. I say, suck it up. You got what you paid for.

We have a local shooting range. From time to time people who move into the mansions within ear shot of the range try to get it closed down. Thus far, they have failed.

17 posted on 11/07/2009 12:15:33 AM PST by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Saije

My grandma used to say “if you don’t want to get splashed stay away from the pool.” That seems relevent here.


18 posted on 11/07/2009 12:16:39 AM PST by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Sometimes I wish one of these kooks lived next to me.

I'd send my kids to TP his house random nights. Leave mean spirited conservative messages on his wind shield. Make a point of being a nosy neighbor that came over regularly just to annoy. Refer him to the Jehovah's Witnesses every month and the Mormons every other month. Make an anonymous call that his car is a polluter (especially if he had any environmentalist sticker on his car).

Basically be a general pain until he chose to move to a different neighborhood.

19 posted on 11/07/2009 12:21:39 AM PST by HappyCapitalist
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To: Saije

Did they buy their condos knowing that the ship was there? If so, QUIT WHINNING!!!!


20 posted on 11/07/2009 12:48:34 AM PST by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: Saije

Considering what that city and state have become, frankly I’d rather see the Constitution relocated. Hell, Havana would be a more respectful place for her.


21 posted on 11/07/2009 12:51:24 AM PST by VR-21 (Down to the stones, where old ghosts play.)
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To: Saije

Really, the Constitution belongs in a Red State, not with the low lifes of Boston.

Charleston, Biloxi, Mobile, or Houston would welcome this magnificent ship.


22 posted on 11/07/2009 1:01:08 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

The brochures for “toney” condos in the area probably advertised “beautiful historic location” as one of its selling points.

Now they don’t like the history?


23 posted on 11/07/2009 1:42:30 AM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: Fiddlstix
Tell ‘em to stuff cotton in their ears. Old Ironsides’ cannons were there long before their damned condo existed.

We must have there relatives living down here in Florida they move near the race track and airports live on the water of lakes and complain because of the noise. Gee I hear 2 owls screeching outside my woods surrounded house this morning who do I complain to?

24 posted on 11/07/2009 1:58:28 AM PST by bikerman (Buck Farack)
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To: Saije

friggin’ ingrates.....STFU you whiny good-fer-nuthin B!T@#ES!!!

God forbid twice a day you be reminded of the incredible blessing of living in the greatest country in the history of humanity, and what it took to achieve this!


25 posted on 11/07/2009 2:08:59 AM PST by rottndog (Freedom IS NOT FREE--Let us NEVER FORGET those that have paid the highest price for it!)
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To: Saije

“Over the summer, we have entertained several times, and we have had guests sit up in shock when the cannon goes off,” the resident wrote. “It has also awakened them at 8 a.m. while they are vacationing and then blasted them again at sunset.”

No not that! You had guests sit up in shock over the cannons, and they were awakened from their stupor at 8 AM
while they were sponging off you on a weekend! How dreadful!! (;-)


26 posted on 11/07/2009 2:26:12 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: FormerACLUmember

By Federal law, USS Constitution is prohibited from leaving Boston. Back in 1997, when they put her under unassisted sail for her 200th birthday/anniversary of her launching (and for the first time in over 100 years) there was an enormous amount of opposition to even taking her up to Marblehead for the night.

There was also a desire to bring her down to NYC and have her, under sail, lead the Parade of Tall Ships past the Statue of Liberty for the 2000 millennial celebrations. That was quashed, allegedly because her hull couldn’t handle the stresses of an open-water voyage. Her then-Commanding Officer (who would be expected to really know what his ship could handle) supported the plan, and openly advocated for it. There were rumors that MA politicians (including Teddy Kennedy) stepped in to kill it. Didn’t want to lose a local tourist attraction for a few weeks ...


27 posted on 11/07/2009 2:34:18 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: BigCinBigD
Double the charge, put a ball in the canon and aim it at condo.

Exactly my thoughts but I have more!

By my count, there are 15 canons per side and probably more and a second side, too.

One of my proudest moments was to visit the magnificent ship in the early 1990's for the first time. What history, what tradition! Screw the condo brie and chardonnay folks - period!

It is like building a house next to a train track then complaining about the trains. Give it a break!

Here's the old beauty under partial sail:


28 posted on 11/07/2009 2:35:59 AM PST by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: Saije

I think it would be more considerate if the captain used a computer generated graphic to imitate muzzle blast and leave those poor condo owners alone. Whaa flippin whaa. Big babies.


29 posted on 11/07/2009 2:39:37 AM PST by KingLudd
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To: jws3sticks
Here's the old beauty under partial sail:

Technically, she's under "battle sail".
30 posted on 11/07/2009 2:59:25 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Saije

I suggest they move.

I would be thrilled to have the honor of hearing the Constitution’s guns twice a day.


31 posted on 11/07/2009 3:10:36 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Saije

Probably the same kind of people who would want a nearby shooting range closed because of the noise.


32 posted on 11/07/2009 3:14:41 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Hussein Obama: the country's greatest firearms salesman!)
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To: BigCinBigD

Here, here!! Throw in a few canister rounds for good measure as well.


33 posted on 11/07/2009 3:21:32 AM PST by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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To: jws3sticks
Maybe her CO could make a couple of calls and get a couple of these......to buzz the condos about 0330 hrs on a weekly basis.
34 posted on 11/07/2009 3:23:45 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: Jeff Gordon
We have a local shooting range. From time to time people who move into the mansions within ear shot of the range try to get it closed down. Thus far, they have failed.

Same here. The Club has been here for over a century.

One of the scum called the police to report bullets hitting his roof.

The police recovered UNFIRED, intact rounds from the gutters.

They did not arrest the yuppie for filing a false report. Too bad. In a prior era he could have fallen downstairs a few times.

35 posted on 11/07/2009 3:26:33 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Roark, Architect.)
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To: Saije
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Tell the neighbors it's the voice of Liberty. The Mother of all voices.

36 posted on 11/07/2009 3:35:43 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will work for ammo.)
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To: Saije

OLD IRONSIDES
By Oliver Wendell Holmes
September 16, 1830

Ay, tear her tattered ensign down!
Long has it waved on high,
And many an eye has danced to see
That banner in the sky;
Beneath it rung the battle shout,
And burst the cannon’s roar;
The meteor of the ocean air
Shall sweep the clouds no more.

Her deck, once red with heroes’ blood,
Where knelt the vanquished foe,
When winds were hurrying o’er the flood,
And waves were white below,
No more shall feel the victor’s tread,
Or know the conquered knee;
The harpies of the shore shall pluck
The eagle of the sea!

Oh, better that her shattered bulk
Should sink beneath the wave;
Her thunders shook the mighty deep,
And there should be her grave;
Nail to the mast her holy flag,
Set every threadbare sail,
And give her to the god of storms,
The lightning and the gale!


37 posted on 11/07/2009 3:49:36 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: Saije

The ship was there 1st. If the clowns did not like the cannon, they should not of moved into the neighborhood.


38 posted on 11/07/2009 3:52:33 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: Saije

With any luck, those nattering nabobs of negativism are also suicidal.


39 posted on 11/07/2009 3:52:49 AM PST by JohnJ
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To: Saije

What’s the matter with Boston?


40 posted on 11/07/2009 3:56:22 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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To: Saije
Miffed residents of a posh condo complex

Uh....uh...Waaaaaaaaaaah!

.

.

/whining crybaby mode

41 posted on 11/07/2009 4:25:26 AM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
I'd love to agree with you, but Constitution was built in Boston and belongs there.
42 posted on 11/07/2009 4:29:40 AM PST by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
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To: jws3sticks
By my count, there are 15 canons per side and probably more and a second side, too.

According to the U.S. Navy:

32 24-pounder long guns
20 32-pounder carronades
two 24-pounder bow chasers.

Carronades are especially brutal as antipersonnel weapons at short range. I would recommend they be used to beat the condo association into submission.

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&tid=100&ct=4

43 posted on 11/07/2009 5:05:31 AM PST by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: Saije
Miffed residents brain - dead Obama - voting America - hating marxist residents of a posh condo complex have invited the commanding officer of the USS Constitution over for a glass of wine so he can hear for himself that the frigate’s twice-daily cannon blasts - a tradition dating to 1798 - are “more disruptive to the neighborhood than you might have imagined.”

Fixed it.

44 posted on 11/07/2009 5:21:32 AM PST by Jackknife (Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth, and boils his water with his rage)
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To: tanknetter
Here's the old beauty under partial sail:

Technically, she's under "battle sail".

tanknetter, I give you my "first" thing learned today. I totally love days when I add to the things to the old brain.

It makes perfect since, too, given the type of fighting and need for maneuvering required in close in battle of the day.

Still a beauty and a memorable visit for this writer.

45 posted on 11/07/2009 5:30:32 AM PST by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: Cheburashka
Cheburashka,

You're my number two on this posting.

Personally, I hope she floating, sailing and firing for another uncounted number of hundred year cycles, and long after the "neighbors" are dead and gone.

46 posted on 11/07/2009 5:36:08 AM PST by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: Saije

If they were there before Old Ironsides, they have a legitimate gripe; otherwise, they can STFU!


47 posted on 11/07/2009 5:39:49 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: jws3sticks
Still a beauty and a memorable visit for this writer.

You're very welcome. I've been up to see the Constitution four or five times. Most memorable was a trip taken over New Years 1994. She was in drydock undergoing her most recent extensive restoration. Even though her masts had been removed and her upper decks were tarped over, seeing the Ship out of water and showing off her complete lines was amazing. It's really no wonder that she was as swift as she was. I actually got to touch part of the original ship (part of the sternpost. While she's still the Constitution, of her structure only the keel, the sternpost and some of the first futtocks are original or date to the War of 1812).
48 posted on 11/07/2009 5:44:52 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: HappyCapitalist

Be sure to give his name and aderess to a different military recruiter every month, as well.


49 posted on 11/07/2009 5:45:26 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Saije

Many Yacht clubs do the same. People love it! (Except for the commies.)


50 posted on 11/07/2009 6:31:47 AM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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