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Too Scared to Recognize Terrorism
The Washington Times ^ | November 8, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 11/06/2009 9:14:54 PM PST by Abakumov

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was declared "not a terrorist" before the facts were out - even before officials were sure whether the attacker was alive or dead. Failing to honestly name a terrorist attack despite the evidence is as destructive and dishonest as leaping to call an attack terrorism without the facts to support that.

Apparently, the claim was based largely on the fact that Maj. Hasan appears to have been a lone gunman. However, terrorism is defined not by the number of people involved, but by the motivations and intentions of the attacker. If reports about him are true, Maj. Hasan clearly was a terrorist.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fthood; holder4terrorists; holdervsamerica; islamists; jihadists; nidalmalikhasan; obama4terrorists; obamavsamerica; terrorism

1 posted on 11/06/2009 9:14:55 PM PST by Abakumov
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To: Abakumov

It is so true. The media outlets were spittling all over themselves saying, “don’t jump to conclusions—no evidence of terrorism!”

They lie even about something as important as this—will they ever recognize the truth?!!!


2 posted on 11/06/2009 9:20:23 PM PST by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps.11:3)
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To: Abakumov
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
3 posted on 11/06/2009 9:21:28 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Abakumov

Well you know its hard for Americans to understand that religious fervor is not derangement. He was not in fact deranged, which implies he was out of contol. This man Hasan was calm and methodical, he was conducting the religious ritual of a Mujihad, knowing that if he died, both he and his victims would join before Allah in heaven.

Thats hard for us to wrap our minds around, but he was not deranged at all.

Take a look:

Witnesses described Hasan, who was wearing an Army uniform during the assault, as steely calm. He paused only to reload one of his handguns.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/11/06/2009-11-06_susptected_gunman_in_fort_hood_shooting_maj_nidal_malik_hasan_shouted_allah_akba.html

(Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.) )She said he targeted specific people as he stalked through a deployment center, two handguns blazing.* (Senator Hutchison took notes from people who were at the scene, knowing the facts would be spun.)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/11/05/2009-11-05_army_base_massacre_at_least_seven_people_dead_in_mass_shooting_at_fort_hood_in_t.html

“It was very deliberate in his approach, they said that he was calm,” Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, the base commander at Fort Hood, told “Good Morning America” today.

“He was shooting people more than once if he could,” said Cone.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/fort-hood-shooter-maj-nidal-malik-hasan-calm/story?id=9012995

Munley took down a stone, cold killer, who was fully in control of himself, a Mahujadine blazing with the inner spiritual fire of Allah, pure evil. That makes her deed all the more heroic.Allah and Jehovah in that sense had a shoot out, and Jehovah got the drop on Allah.Stopped him cold.
That makes her accomplishment all the more significant. And the Muzzies are trembling over it, as well they should.

God almighty did send an angel, and she was victorious.
God bless her and keep her.She is every American patriot. The nation is full of us.

Prayers up for those who lost their loved ones to this religious genocide.

And Muslims, become Americans or LEAVE! Turn in every jihadi you know, turn in every POS Imam you have who preaches jihad against America.


4 posted on 11/06/2009 9:21:45 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: Abakumov

I wish Dick Cheney would come out with his take on this. Actually, i really wish President Bush would but that’s not gonna happen. Which is not a bad thing, it only makes people think, “how would President Bush handle this? Certainly not this way!”


5 posted on 11/06/2009 9:24:27 PM PST by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: Abakumov
The politically correct tendency to define attacks as something other than terrorism simply to avoid addressing the motives of the attacker is dangerous. Anyone who shouts "Allahu Akbar" and opens fire on a crowd of unarmed people is a terrorist. If Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is not a terrorist, no one is.

Obvious to conservatives, unfathomable to liberals.

6 posted on 11/06/2009 9:25:19 PM PST by TChad
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To: Abakumov

Heads need to roll. I think it’s serious enough that Mueller should resign, if it’s in fact true the FBI was alerted six months ago and DID NOTHING.

In this day and age, that they didn’t even investigate the possibility that they had a jihadist in the officer ranks is an unconscionable outrage.

Why would anyone serve in this military when the enemy is allowed to move with impunity within the apparatus.


7 posted on 11/06/2009 9:28:45 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: uncitizen

President Bush, has more class than to make a statement on anything this adminstratin does it is the usual mode that an ex president stays out of the sitting adminstration.. the democrats, starting with clinton broke that custom


8 posted on 11/06/2009 9:30:42 PM PST by JoanneSD
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To: GWMcClintock

He was in his funeral garb.


9 posted on 11/06/2009 9:32:55 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: JoanneSD

Yes, i know and i was going to say that but decided that that was a given.


10 posted on 11/06/2009 9:34:21 PM PST by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: All

Of course, you all know why nobody wants to label this a terrorist attack....under President Bush, after 9-11 there were no terrorist attacks.

Now we have this new President and less then a year into his term we have a terrorist attack.

None under President Bush since 9-11, now we have one.

The media doesn’t want the rest of the country to see the obvious.


11 posted on 11/06/2009 9:35:16 PM PST by OhhTee5
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To: GWMcClintock

I think we are all targets now..


12 posted on 11/06/2009 9:35:33 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Rutles4Ever

>Heads need to roll.<

They will if all these bastards in government and the media don’t start doing things right! I don’t understand what on earth is wrong with our government.

I guess they’re just plain, straight up evil. That’s the only thing that makes sense.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 9:37:32 PM PST by Califreak (Obama's Purple Reign must be stopped!)
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To: Travis McGee
Does this mean "terrorism" is defined ONLY when it is proven terrorists are working in conjunction with each other, and NOT singularly (or proven to be a member of a specific state-sponsored terrorist group)???? That's the read I get from this...anyone else see it?

Napolitano says too early to speculate on Fort Hood terror-link

Snips:

Brussels - United States Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano expressed her condolences to the victims of the Texas army base shooting Friday and said it was too early to rule out terrorist links. "This was a horrific act of violence, even harder to bear because it happened to soldiers on our own soil," Napolitano told reporters after a visit to the European Parliament in Brussels.

Asked whether terrorism could be ruled out, Napolitano said: "The investigation into the shootings has began and it would be inappropriate to speculate on the causes of this terrible crime, so let me not comment any further as the investigation is ongoing."

Napolitano said the incident demonstrated that "there are individuals within the United States who have become radicalized and part of violent extremism."

"What that illustrates is that al-Qaeda or al-Qaeda-related activities, or groups, or individuals are not confined simply to the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan, they have seeds all over the world.

"And that means that the international cooperation we talked about today is so very important, because some of these information-sharing agreements (between the US and Europe) we reach have a direct implication for our ability to intercept these plots and prevent them from occurring," Napolitano said.

14 posted on 11/06/2009 9:39:43 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Califreak

Would Patton have Nazis in his army?


15 posted on 11/06/2009 9:55:40 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Abakumov

You are a bad person. Dr. Phil says so:

9.26 minutes long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae8qYjrh_gw

Wonder if Dr. Phil will retract his syllabic statement today.

Phsycho Tard

If you want to listen to two muslim apologists listen to the whole thing.

If your A.D.D. can’t handle the whole thing, queue to 3:55 and listen to Larry King go off about saying the killer’s last name (it is his last name) and how that is incendiary.

Then listen to Dr. Phil go off on the JAG officer:

“I think that is irresponsible, to say. I, I, just don’t think we know enough about that…”

The JAG officer is saying get off the psycho babble and Dr. Phil continues to excoriate the JAG officer and discounting this as a terrorist act at 5:39

“You don’t take the guy’s last name and impugn the Islamic nation (where exactly is this nation?) Are you kidding me? What are you talking about?”

“That is irresponsible, it is ridiculous to say!”

Really Dr. Phil? As you were ridiculing our guy for calling it, like it is, a terrorist act, in solidarity with other terrorist around the world, Ibrahim Hooper, from the CAIR released the following statement at exactly the same you called out the JAG officer:

“We condemn this cowardly attack in the strongest terms possible and ask that the perpetrators be punished to the full extent of the law. No political or religious ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence. The attack was particularly heinous in that it targeted the all-volunteer army that protects our nation. American Muslims stand with our fellow citizens in offering both prayers for the victims and sincere condolences to the families of those killed or injured.”

So who is right Dr. Phil? You? Or “The Nation of Islam”(Wherever that is) and the JAG officer? Hmmm…?

Dr. Phil, I would suggest that YOU are a Psycho Tard.

I would like to see these two get together so I can watch the great Dr. explain himself once again in flowery terms of warm humanity, how this peace loving animal needs a mental consolation prize.
It does no one any good to psycho babble these guys. They are part of a global cabal and cult that wants to kill and thinks going to their spiritual whorehouse, where they can rape 72 virgins for eternity, is an honor.
The rest of their peace loving family must understand this; until they go through a spiritual and mental reformation they can never be viewed as equal human beings or as a people, who respect other religions and people, without equivocation and their religious views are to be respected in the same way ours should be.

Moreover, their deafening silence gives both sanction and imprimatur to this cultist murderous behavior.

It is unbelievable that no one outside CAIR stands in solidarity, with humanity, to condemn this. CAIR, for those who are uninformed, because they just can’t be bothered with facts, is the modern day Muslim Brotherhood and PLA organization which seeks to act as a political arm of Islam and promote Islam by claiming they are the ones being martyred. Still yesterday, CAIR once again begins their fake condemnation of their brother in arms and then says there will surely be backlash against muslims. Really? Show me, Ibrahim Hooper, how many muslims died in the aftermath of 911? How many muslims were marginalized in the last eight years? The answer? NONE! You are a fatuous liar!

Islam is currently responsible for all major conflicts in the world. We see what is happening in Darfur. Islamic Arabs are emigrating south through Africa and in their wake leaving dead bodies of those they consider not worthy to be human anymore, as their faith is in the one true God, Jesus Christ. How can we accept you when you kill thousands of people around the world in the name of your pecuniary allah?

Your message of peace must not be real and therefore a fraud if you have to make converts with the blade of a knife or at the point of a gun. In fact, your belief system demands conversion, now, here on earth or death to the non-believer.

Really? I mean Really?! That is your message? Take precious time out my day and Pray to allah five times, each day, on a rug, facing east, with my ass in the air?

Why? So I can demonstrate fealty and vulnerability? Does this sound like a cult to you? It does to me.

Contrast your message with the message from my God.

For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. (you are no better and no worse than anyone else but, still less than God)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(God wants more for you and let his Son take on the Global Mantle of Sin for all mankind. Everyone, you and me)

But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved (God says it is tough enough being alone here on earth without help or hope but he is here for your)

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus (Upon entering into a spiritual relationship with God and Jesus Christ, you are pardoned, loved and your sins washed away)

God is a gentleman and father and saying:

Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

There is no exhortation to love God or perish through violence visited by a very fallible human being.

Only God can judge, for only he is perfect and knows what is or isn’t worthy or innocent.

Do you see the difference between our beliefs?

Your allah demands abeyance.

My God reaches his arms out to you, as a loving father, to hold you close, protect you and guide you.

God loves you.


16 posted on 11/06/2009 10:24:13 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: OhhTee5
None under President Bush since 9-11, now we have one

The anthrax attacks occured just after 9/11.

The shoebombing attempt of late 2001- stopped because the bomber got tackled by other passengers while trying to set off his bomb.

The LAX shooting occurred after 9/11:

JULY 4, 2002 : (CA : LAX SHOOTING -- See EGYPTIAN IMMIGRANT HADAYET, AL GAMAA AL ISLAMIYA aka ISLAMIC GROUP)"The Egyptian immigrant who killed two people and wounded several others at Los Angeles International Airport on July 4 [2002] had admitted in 1992 to Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) officials that Egyptian authorities had accused him of being a member of a known terrorist organization...---------- "INS Ignored Airport Killer’s Possible Link to Terrorists," by Carl Limbacher and the NewsMax.com staff , NewsMax.com (September 25, 2002) http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/9/25/213308 3 posted on 08/25/2003 2:46:41 AM PDT by Cindy

Then there were the al Qaeda/ Jamaat ul Fuqra beltway shootings of 2002; the younger shooter had a thing for Saddam Hussein.

And there was the Seattle shootings of July 2006.

There was quite a few attempts which failed, and more which were sting operations.

And there were some horrendous attacks overseas, most of which involved terrorists with ties to US cells.

17 posted on 11/06/2009 10:25:35 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Rutles4Ever

FBI Director Muehller has been the least high profile Director I have seen in my lifetime. It’s almost as if he isn’t there, except to maybe obstruct things. Anyone else see this?


18 posted on 11/06/2009 10:59:39 PM PST by tinamina
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To: GWMcClintock

When a berzerker jihadi shoots up an ABC or CBS studio for his 15 seconds of fame - will anybody care?


19 posted on 11/06/2009 11:23:02 PM PST by x_plus_one (Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to have George Santayana quoted at them forever)
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To: Abakumov
Anyone who shouts "Allahu Akbar" and opens fire on a crowd of unarmed people is a terrorist. If Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is not a terrorist, no one is.

Duh.

20 posted on 11/06/2009 11:49:04 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Abakumov

Amen!


21 posted on 11/06/2009 11:57:05 PM PST by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: P-Marlowe

He is not just a terrorist because liberals have redefined terrorist to be anyone who owns guns or served in the military now. He is an Islamic terrorist - the ones the military is supposed to be at war with.

Funny the FBI who has evidence the stink is a terrorist comes out immediately denying the incident is terrorism.

Does the government think it is a good think to make themselves into big fat liars so that people don’t trust them with anything anymore? How about the military? Are they going attract people to serve when they are standing out there lying to everyone?

Used to be the military brass was a notch above the rest of the scoundrels in honor and loyalty to Americans and the constitution. Now they are harboring Islamic terrorists to be politically correct and then after we see with our own lying eyes the terrorist kill, they dare to deny it was an Islamic terrorist.


22 posted on 11/06/2009 11:58:12 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Abakumov

excellent..


23 posted on 11/07/2009 12:06:29 AM PST by wardaddy (the pump don't work cause the vandal took the handle)
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To: Abakumov

Hasan has NO moral backbone.

He had the option of taking the following steps

1. contacting a Leftist news outlet
2. publicly declaring his opposition to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq
3. refusing to serve
4. taking the consequences


24 posted on 11/07/2009 1:37:18 AM PST by syriacus (By shooting others, instead of refusing to serve, Hasan proved he has NO moral backbone.)
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To: Irisshlass

>Would Patton have Nazis in his army?<

Six words just about said it all.

And back in the day, if the President acted like Lord Zero, they would have bumped his crippled butt right down the steps of 1600 and into oncoming traffic.


25 posted on 11/07/2009 2:06:31 AM PST by Califreak (Obama's Purple Reign must be stopped!)
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To: Abakumov

The FBI, warned in advance about the terrorist but did
NOTHING, said it was not “terrorism”.

Just another of AG Holder’s “consultants” and “workers”.


26 posted on 11/07/2009 3:39:32 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: P-Marlowe

It’s time to re-TRAIN Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan in the techniques that might be used against an American Soldier captured by Al Queda...

Waterboarding


27 posted on 11/07/2009 4:38:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P-Marlowe

28 posted on 11/07/2009 4:41:00 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SaraJohnson

If he had ties to the FLDS or Westboro Baptist, would there be this media treatment?


29 posted on 11/07/2009 4:44:41 AM PST by steve8714 (There's a straight line from John Wilkes Booth through Paul Robeson to Sean Penn.)
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To: Abakumov

You must call evil by it’s name. The cowards in the press and in our govenment put their fingers in their ears and go “LA LA LA, if I ignore this it will go away”. It won’t.


30 posted on 11/07/2009 4:52:25 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Abakumov

Join in singing -— THE SOUND OF ISLAM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2380855/posts


31 posted on 11/07/2009 8:07:43 AM PST by doug from upland (10+ million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Abakumov

Even the FBI said early on that the Fort Hood massacre was not an act of terrorism.


32 posted on 11/07/2009 9:35:48 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Vendome
Great post.

Liberals can not see the evil of Islam, because their own faith is not there or not strong enough to provide the necessary contrast.

Plus, it is 'virtuous' for any Muslim to lie or hide facts to confuse, injure or kill any non-muslim...It is in their scriptures.

That is the mission statement of CAIR: to be the political arm, the one which concocts the smoothest lies and to purvey them to the non-Muslims.

It is amazing that the liberals have not figured out that the Muslim's lies and duplicity are 90 percent of their strategy; the other ten percent is surprise attack and murder.

Here again the liberal mindset is so devoid of logical training that it can not noodle this aspect of Islam out, that lies are OK to tell.

In sum, these people do not worship the same God we do.

33 posted on 11/07/2009 12:53:02 PM PST by caddie
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To: caddie

I am so glad to hear you say that. So many people do not understand that as an infidel everything is on the table. They can lie to you, steal from you, torture, maim, kill, etc, etc. And not only is it allowed, it is honored.

My husband deals with the locals in A’stan everyday. The stories he tells me would drop your jaw.


34 posted on 11/07/2009 12:56:50 PM PST by stentorian conservative (Obama is sinking the boat that was built to stay afloat.)
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To: GWMcClintock

Yet the media was willing to “jump to the conclusion” that it wasn’t terrorism


35 posted on 11/07/2009 1:01:08 PM PST by IFly4Him
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To: steve8714
If he had ties to the FLDS or Westboro Baptist, would there be this media treatment?

If he was a WHITE guys and has BLACKS amoung the dead; you can bet the HATE CRIME!!! crowd would be howling big time!

36 posted on 11/07/2009 6:07:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JoanneSD

I think cawtaw was the first president to make disparaging remarks about the Republican administration. Clinton just put frosting on the remarks by complaining overseas about the Republican administration in charge. But clinton did go among the world leaders and ask they not support the Republican administration and especially W.


37 posted on 11/08/2009 10:17:45 AM PST by tillacum
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