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SOCIALIZED MEDICINE DAILY DIGEST FOR 11/06/09
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Posted on 11/06/2009 9:02:30 PM PST by socialismisinsidious

Will Preventive Care Control Costs? (or Will Free Health Care pay for itself?)

Mises Institute ^ | November 04, 2009 | Eric M. Staib

Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:01:46 PM by sickoflibs

In an attempt to control the aggregate healthcare costs that will be shouldered by taxpayers under his proposed system, President Obama has pushed increased reliance on preventive care for all eligible Americans. His argument is that, because preventive care is normally much less expensive than later surgeries, increased use of these earlier, preemptive treatments will entail radical cost savings. As with many of the president's healthcare promises, this argument falls apart under rigorous examination.

Not all Dem governors for health reform (7 of 28 RATS recognize budget busting Deathcare™)

Washington Times ^ | 11/05/09 | Donald Lambro

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 12:26:32 AM by Libloather

When the nation's 28 Democratic governors were asked to send a letter to congressional leaders last month expressing their support for health care reform, seven refused to sign the letter and even some who did complained that the pending reform plans could hit them with budget-busting expenses.

The big concern among the holdouts is that the health care overhaul will leave them on the hook to pay for expansions in Medicaid programs for the poor while Washington reaps the political credit.

Cash Crunch,Press Silence: As ObamaCare Advances In Congress, Uncle Sam’s Collections Continue Drop

Newsbusters ^ | November 5, 2009 - 16:06 | Tom Blumer

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 2:56:24 AM by chuck_the_tv_out

The August Congressional Budget Office budget forecast for the fiscal year that began last month says that Uncle Sam will take in $2.264 trillion from October 2009 through September 2010. That’s an increase of 7.6% over fiscal 2009’s intake of $2.105 trillion.

Dems exploit infant deaths to sell ObamaCare

The American Thinker ^ | November 06, 2009 | William Tate

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 5:59:17 AM by Scanian

There are lies, there are damned lies, and there are the statistics that Democrats have ginned up to try to sell ObamaCare.

The most recent example comes from statistics, bandied about by their media mouthpieces this week, purporting that infant mortality rates in the U.S. are proof that the healthcare system is sick and needs Drs. Obama, Pelosi and Reid to cure it.

The Return of the Inflation Tax (tax surcharge in Pelosi health bill)

Wall Street Journal ^ | November 6, 2009

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 5:59:36 AM by reaganaut1

Buried in Nancy Pelosi's health-care bill is a provision that will partially repeal tax indexing for inflation, meaning that as their earnings rise over a lifetime these youngsters can look forward to paying higher rates even if their income gains aren't real.

GOP Congressman Questions AARP Endorsement of Pelosi Health-Care Bill

CNSNews.com ^ | November 06, 2009 | Christopher Neefus

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 6:32:58 AM by Man50D

The Rest of the title reads: as Possible Conflict of Interest

AARP, the American Association of Retired Persons, which endorsed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) version of the health-care reform bill Thursday, is drawing fire from a member of Congress who questions the motives of the nation’s largest senior citizens’ lobbying group.

AARP Official Defending ObamaCare Endorsement Was Senior Dem Official

NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 8:29:29 AM by governsleastgovernsbest

Who is Nancy LeaMond? That's what I wanted to know after watching AARP's Exec. VP defending her organization's endorsement of ObamaCare to Joe Scarborough on Morning Joe today.

Click, Wikipedia, click: whaddayaknow? Turns out that before coming to AARP, LeaMond was a senior Clinton administration appointee and a top Dem congressional staffer. Surprise, surprise!

Health Care Last Chance! Fax Blue Dog Democrats! Its Fun! Here's List

JoeClarke.Net ^ | 11/06/2009 | JoeClarke.Net

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 8:29:33 AM by joeclarke

Personal visits to Congress people are best, phone calls are good, but emails are thrown away. Faxing a petition to Representatives produces a hard copy letter right in their offices, and hopefully they pile up before they can burn them.

(CALL TO ACTION) UPDATED: Whip count on health bill (Here's who to call)

The Hill ^ | 11/6/2009

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 10:46:09 AM by markomalley

Folks, the calls are having some impact. Two have moved into the "No" column (indicated with "red"):

President to Formally Back House Democrats' Health Care Bill

ABC News Blogs ^ | November 6, 2009 | Jake Tapper

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 8:54:27 AM by Oldeconomybuyer

The White House will today issue a Statement of Administration Policy today endorsing the health care reform legislation from House Democrats.

Don't Get Sick After June - If you like Indian Health Services you’ll love the public option.

Fox News.com ^ | November 5, 2009 | Senator Tom Coburn

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 9:09:52 AM by greatplains

Don’t get sick after June” is a well known saying in Indian Country. It refers to the month when the federally managed Indian Health Service (IHS) program runs out of money.

Catholic Bishops: Health Care Bill ... ‘Money-Laundering System’ for Funding Abortion

CNS News ^ | November 06, 2009 | Matt Cover

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 10:06:49 AM by Mrs. Don-o

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops dismissed the House Democrats’ plan to try to isolate funding for abortion in the health care bill as a “money-laundering system” that would do nothing to stop federal funding of abortion, an issue that could potentially derail health care reform.

Why less government is the right way to fix health care

Examiner ^ | 11-06-2009 | Paul Kroenke

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 10:49:03 AM by aic4ever

Eline van den Broek, founder of the European Independent Institute, a Netherlands-based free market think tank, presents a video for the Center for Freedom & Prosperity, discussing why less government, not more, is the solution for fixing healthcare. Enjoy!

Pelosi scrambles for health care votes

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/6/9 | Carolyn Lochhead,Drew Joseph, Chronicle Washington Bureau

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 10:52:58 AM by SmithL

Washington -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi gladly pocketed one more precious Democratic vote for health care legislation Thursday, swearing in Bay Area Rep. John Garamendi as key Republican gubernatorial victories this week in Virginia and New Jersey rattled moderate Democrats before a showdown vote set for Saturday.

Planned Sat. vote on health care may be delayed ("We have the Votes!" Wha' happ'n, Nancy?)

AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/6/09 | AP

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 11:15:49 AM by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – A House leader says Democrats haven't yet lined up enough votes to pass their health care overhaul bill and may push the vote set for Saturday back one day or more.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland says the vote that House Democrats had scheduled for Saturday could slip to Sunday or early next week.

Democrat leaders aim to quell unrest, avoid delays on health reform vote

Washington Post ^ | November 6, 2009 | Shailagh Murray and Lori Montgomery

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 12:45:10 PM by La Lydia

Concerns over the hot-button issues of abortion and immigration threatened to delay a House vote on health-care reform until early next week, and Democratic leaders were struggling to contain the uprisings within their caucus. Although confident of victory, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic leaders were working to limit defections to the roughly 25 Democrats viewed as "hard no" votes. There will be 258 Democrats in the House by the time the vote takes place, but to secure the 218 votes needed for passage -- and with prospects dim for Republican converts -- Pelosi can afford to lose no more than 40 members of her caucus...

Healthcare: Who Are the Know-Nothings?

The New Media Journal ^ | Nov 6, 2009 | AJ DiCintio

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 12:56:40 PM by NewMediaJournal

As Tuesday’s vote revealed, Americans are strongly devoted to individualism, one happy aspect of which is that they are possessed of an abhorrence to being told what to think, a truth that explains why people are drawing their own conclusions regarding this question:

Which Americans are behaving with anti-intellectual, hateful ignorance in the debate regarding the Obama/Pelosi/Reid healthcare bills making their way through Congress?

McCain Says Health Care Bill Would Face Constitutional Challenge

CNS News ^ | 2009-11-06 | Edwin Mora

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 1:15:58 PM by rabscuttle385

(Washington, D.C.) -- Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) predicted on Thursday that there will be a constitutional challenge to the provision in the health care bill under consideration in Congress that would require all Americans to buy health insurance. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the federal government has never before mandated that Americans purchase any good or service.

When asked by CNSNews.com on Thursday where in the Constitution is Congress given the authority to mandate that people buy health insurance, McCain said, “That is an excellent question and I’m sure that if they pass health care legislation, I think there would be a challenge.”

Immigration may threaten health vote

The Hill ^ | 11/05/09 07:38 PM ET | Jared Allen

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 1:24:57 PM by BradtotheBone

The illegal immigration issue is emerging as the biggest threat to passing healthcare reform in the House.

Congressional Hispanics have threatened to vote against the bill because of a last-minute threat from within the Democratic Caucus to bolster the House bill’s immigration restrictions to match those included in the Senate Finance bill.

And they’re also fighting President Barack Obama, the original sponsor of the language prohibiting illegal immigrants from accessing the public health insurance exchange.

Schedule for Health Vote in House Could Slip [Splits On Abortion Funding]

NYTimes ^ | November 06th, 2009

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 1:31:46 PM by Steelfish

By CARL HULSE and ROBERT PEAR November 6, 2009 WASHINGTON — The House majority leader, Steny H. Hoyer of Maryland, said on Friday that he expected the House to pass sweeping health care legislation on Saturday evening. But he acknowledged that Democrats were still trying to corral the necessary 218 votes, and that what he called Republican delaying tactics could push the vote back to Sunday or early next week. “We will be successful in the next two or three days,” Mr. Hoyer said.

Robert Reich: ObamaCare Won't Cut Costs OR Improve Health Care

Newsbusters ^

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 1:40:10 PM by Sub-Driver

Robert Reich: ObamaCare Won't Cut Costs OR Improve Health Care By Noel Sheppard Created 2009-11-06 13:25

Former Clinton Labor Secretary and current Obama economic adviser Robert Reich believes healthcare legislation currently being debated on Capitol Hill "won't offer most Americans any appreciable decline in the cost of their health insurance nor clear improvement in the efficiency or quality of the health care they receive."

UPDATE: Hoyer: 'Very Close' To Needed Votes For Health Bill

WallStreetJournal - DowJonesNewsWire ^ | 11.06.09 | Patrick Yoest and Martin Vaughan

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 3:57:13 PM by rface

House Democratic leaders worked Friday to gather votes to pass health-care legislation this weekend, despite lingering concerns among Democrats on abortion and immigration provisions. Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said they "very close" to securing the 218 votes needed.....

In a conference call with reporters, he said the House would finish debate on the bill by 7 p.m. on Saturday evening and proceed to a vote....

Obamacare will cover sex changes?

Don Surber blog ^ | 11-6-09 | Don Surber

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 4:03:53 PM by radioone

Move over abortion. Here comes sex-change operations. Republicans may call for a vote on an amendment that would keep Obamacare (Pelosicare) from covering sex-change operations.

Oh my: Public now opposes ObamaCare, 45/53

Hot Air ^ | Nov. 6, 2009 | Allahpundit

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 5:08:15 PM by Free ThinkerNY

A tip o’ the hat to CNN for gamely trying to spin one of the most gruesome polls for ObamaCare that we’ve seen this year — so far. Opposition to The One’s plan is now a clear majority, up seven points since September; the number of Americans who want Congress to either make major changes to the bill, start over on the bill, or scrap the entire effort stands at a combined 72 percent; and the number who say Obama isn’t doing enough to work with Republicans now equals the number who say he is.

New Poll: 53% Oppose ObamaCare

Flopping Aces ^ | 11-06-09 | Curt

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 5:08:34 PM by Starman417

Think the bluedog's will be feeling some heat?

This from a CNN poll of all places:

Committee Confirms: Comply With Pelosi-Care Or Go To jail

Big government, breitbart ^ | Nov 6th 2009 | Publius

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 5:14:16 PM by opentalk

Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

PELOSI'S HEALTH CARE BILL: "CHOOSE" TO BUY $15,000 OBAMACARE POLICY OR GO TO JAIL

THE FREEDOM POST ^ | November 6, 2009 | TheCapitalist

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 10:58:26 PM by TheFreedomPoster

Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

Pelosi’s Procedural Plan to Pass Health Care

Heritage ^ | 11/6/2009 | Erin Kanoy

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 6:30:53 PM by markomalley

Today at 2pm the House Rules Committee will meet to consider the rule for H.R. 3962 , the Affordable Health Care for America Act. As of this morning 104 amendments had been filed with the Rules Committee for consideration. Republican’s have filed 87 amendments and Democrats have filed 17. The debate in the Rules Committee and a final vote could continue well into this evening.

AMA Members Revolt Over Obamacare Endorsement

Newmax.com ^ | David A. Patten

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 7:15:12 PM by RonnieFan

Before addressing the article, people should know that the AMA has gone from an organization that virtually all MDs belong to down to only about 17%. Gee I wonder why?

That said, according to the article "The American Medical Association (AMA) is facing a rebellion from some of its members, who have introduced a resolution to revoke the organization's endorsement of the Democrats' healthcare proposals.

AMA's Endorsement of House Health Care Bill Sparks Internal Uprising

FoxNews ^ | November 06th, 2009

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 9:19:31 PM by Steelfish

November 06, 2009 AMA's Endorsement of House Health Care Bill Sparks Internal Uprising

Some AMA members are outraged that the group's trustees made the endorsement without the formal approval of the organization's House of Delegates. The American Medical Association's much-touted endorsement of the House health care reform bill has triggered a revolt among some members who want the endorsement withdrawn.

Jon Voight: Democrats’ ‘Oppressive’ Health Care Bill Will ‘Decimate’ the U.S. Economy

CNSnews ^

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 7:44:41 PM by Sub-Driver

on Voight: Democrats’ ‘Oppressive’ Health Care Bill Will ‘Decimate’ the U.S. Economy Friday, November 06, 2009 By Nicholas Ballasy, Video Reporter

(CNSNews.com) - Thousands of Americans opposed to the Democrats’ health care plan marched on Capitol Hill Thursday urging lawmakers to “kill the bill.” Among the speakers at the rally was Hollywood actor Jon Voight who told CNSNews.com he does not believe the Constitution authorizes Congress to require individuals to purchase health insurance. He also said there are “a lot of things that are unconstitutional” going on in Congress.

Misconceptions That Mar Medical Care

Investors.com ^ | November 6, 2009 | THOMAS SOWELL

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 7:46:05 PM by Kaslin

This is the last installment in a nine-part series excerpting the chapter on medical care from the latest version of economist Thomas Sowell's "Applied Economics." The entire series can be read at IBDeditorials.com.

A number of confusions plague discussions of the economics of medical care.

WS Journal: What the Pelosi Health-Care Bill Really Says (It's worse than you think alert)

Wall Street Journal ^ | November 6, 2009 | Betsy McCaughey

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 9:14:26 PM by Zakeet

The health bill that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is bringing to a vote (H.R. 3962) is 1,990 pages. Here are some of the details you need to know.

What the government will require you to do:

Dem Defections Pile Up on Health Care

ABC News ^

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 10:46:47 PM by RocketMan1

ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: Could the health care bill be in real trouble in the House?

The Democratic defections are starting to pile up in advance of a vote scheduled for tomorrow on sweeping health reform efforts. (That schedule could slip to Sunday or beyond, if the votes aren’t there.)

Health care bill vote update

Examiner ^ | 11/06/09 | Susan Ferrechio

Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 11:49:44 PM by freespirited

As the House gets ready to take up the $1.2 trillion sweeping health-care proposal, Democratic leaders are struggling to round up the 218 needed for passage, with the party's most vulnerable Democrats most likely to vote against it and two other factions protesting language in the bill that addresses abortion and immigration.



TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; socializedmedicine

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