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Are date rape spiked drinks an urban myth?
Daily Mail ^ | Last updated at 10:55 PM on 06th November 2009 | By Barbara Davies

Posted on 11/06/2009 7:41:33 PM PST by Perdogg

Last week, academics concluded that women who claim they've been drugged and raped were usually just drunk... When she recalls the night she went off with a stranger, Daniella swears blind someone slipped something into her drink.

How else could a man she never met before have managed to get the 29-year-old legal secretary from the nightclub in Bradford where they met, into his car?

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 11/06/2009 7:41:34 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: SunkenCiv; fieldmarshaldj

ping


2 posted on 11/06/2009 7:42:09 PM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg
Rohypnol
3 posted on 11/06/2009 7:45:40 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

“A recent study conducted by doctors in the U.K. found that none of the subjects reporting spiked drinks had any traces of flunitrazepam or other medications popularly believed to be associated with drug assisted rape such as GHB.”


4 posted on 11/06/2009 7:49:32 PM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg

No, they don’t. Or maybe I just didn’t take enough.


5 posted on 11/06/2009 7:50:30 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Perdogg

Didn’t they have security video of the guy in NYC spiking drinks?


6 posted on 11/06/2009 7:51:40 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: Perdogg

Yeah, I slip a rape drunk into wifeys wine at least once a week. Makes no difference. She still gets buzzed over dinner.She is a wee thing.


7 posted on 11/06/2009 7:53:20 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: Perdogg

Just the potential of such an unfounded accusation is one of the reasons why I will not date.


8 posted on 11/06/2009 7:58:13 PM PST by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I think what they are saying is that yes it has happened, but with extreme rarity.
9 posted on 11/06/2009 7:59:35 PM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg
College was a long time ago, but I seem to recall that alcohol was pretty effective in lowering people's standards and/or inhibitions in the 70s.

I have friends in law enforcement who say that they have never had a confirmed date rape drug case -- lots of claims, but never any proof.

10 posted on 11/06/2009 7:59:49 PM PST by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: Perdogg

Yeah. I agree with the point about people drinking so much they think they were drugged. We have a problem with binge drinking.


11 posted on 11/06/2009 8:06:06 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: Perdogg

The premise is that women do not lie about sex or rape. If a woman says that she was given a date rape drug, then it must be true. Of course, this is all bulls**t, but that is often the way that the liberal press and the liberal courts view things. The evidence is so strong that women will lie about such things, that even the feminists are starting to retreat from this false premise. It would be great if the courts and the MSM would stop sacrificing justice in the name of protecting women.


12 posted on 11/06/2009 8:11:09 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: Perdogg

The actual drug that is called the “date rape” drug is often used in medical procedures. (I’ve had it myself)

The idea is to have the co-operation of the patient, (I guess in moving or turning)yet the patient has absolutely no recall of the procedure, and awakens as if being put out with an anesthetic — without the hangover.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 8:16:18 PM PST by Exit148 (Loose Change Founder. A little goes a long way!)
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To: Perdogg

One of my best friends was out at a bar a few months ago, and only had 3 beers. She left one or more of those beers unattended as she used the restroom, which she knows was stupid. Next thing she knew she felt extremely disoriented and sickened. She didn’t sleep with anyone (no “reason” for an “excuse”), and to this day she can’t bring herself to drink alcohol. She was green around the gills for several days.

I also had a similar experience about 5 years ago but it was with coffee, of all things, offered by someone I knew. Within about 30 minutes my vision became distorted, it was like looking through a keyhole, voices echoed, and I had a metallic taste in my mouth, amongst other effects. I felt like I was dying, and everything was distorted and warped. To this day I can’t drink coffee because of it. There is no way I got “drunk” off a cup of coffee at 8 in the morning. (And I did not sleep with anyone either, I recall the event clearly, disturbingly so.)

Sure there are some fakers, but if you believe there aren’t people out there who do drug others you are very naive. Very.


14 posted on 11/06/2009 8:18:54 PM PST by KJC1
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To: Exit148

Versed - very strange drug indeed. It is used a lot for colonoscopy patients nowadays as well as those that undergo exploratory scoping of the esophagus/stomach (Upper Endoscopy). Hopefully they don’t use the same scope when they do the upper as the lower! Versed is a hypnotic...


15 posted on 11/06/2009 8:28:54 PM PST by jurroppi1 (America, do not commit Barry Care-y!)
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To: PackerBoy
"I have friends in law enforcement who say that they have never had a confirmed date rape drug case -- lots of claims, but never any proof."

Date rape drug is very, very common. Targets are cashed up young, naive men. The thugs are well dressed good looking women in nightclubs with devious intentions. Hundreds of cases a year in Las Vegas alone. They don't get reported because most cases the guy is too embarrassed to report it, or has a significant other who he doesn't want to find out.

I had a friend rolled by a classy Victoria Secret looking babe in a typical cosmopolitan city nightclub; she took his Rolex, car, wallet, cash, and clothes...and left him naked in the bathtub so he couldn't quickly chase after her.

16 posted on 11/06/2009 8:32:25 PM PST by T. Jefferson (Batton down the hatches, full speed in reverse)
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To: Perdogg

I wemt to a bi-i-i-g bar to watch my daughter in a karaoke contest. She does not drink. She is quite allergic to alcohol. She had a bottle of water at her table with her up front with other contestants. I sat at a different table well back. Her turn came to sing and she went up to sing. When she was done she got her bottle of water and we left. Next day she went to church and had a drink from her water bottle on the way. At the end of mass she did not get up. I was called and she was still there immobele 10 minutes after everyone esle qwas gone. She was breathing but otherwise quite paralyzed. Three of us maneuvered her to my car and we went to the ER. Half an hour after arrival she finally started to come out of it. The bottle was tested and they told us it had something called rohypnol in it.


17 posted on 11/06/2009 8:36:15 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Perdogg
Either they were drugged or it was the 10 shots of sambuca they drank beforehand.
18 posted on 11/06/2009 8:36:42 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Perdogg
It actually does happen.

Another example
19 posted on 11/06/2009 8:37:54 PM PST by mysterio
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To: KJC1

Sounds like a possible acid trip. You may have been slipped some acid.


20 posted on 11/06/2009 8:41:17 PM PST by VastRWCon (Drill Baby Drill - Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Perdogg
Ketamine is used orally for this in some circles. Usually the perp has access to the drug through a veterinary clinic.
21 posted on 11/06/2009 8:50:21 PM PST by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: T. Jefferson
I had a friend rolled by a classy Victoria Secret looking babe in a typical cosmopolitan city nightclub; she took his Rolex, car, wallet, cash, and clothes...and left him naked in the bathtub so he couldn't quickly chase after her.

I heard about that case. Did the police ever recover his kidneys or did he have to buy replacements?

22 posted on 11/06/2009 8:51:41 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Perdogg
'I never drink myself into oblivion and I never usually forget whole parts of the night.'

Yep, she's just oozing credibility there.

23 posted on 11/06/2009 8:58:24 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Nosterrex
there has NEVER been a rapist who admitted it......never.....

it wasn't rape-rape...it was consenual...."she" wanted it....she "asked" for it...she didn't scream or yell...she...she ...she...

repeat...there has NEVER been a rapist who admitted to it...

so if there are a handful of women who supposedly "lie" about such things, its miniscule compared to the men who lie about such things...

24 posted on 11/06/2009 9:02:00 PM PST by cherry
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To: mysterio

Here’s one in Baltimore earlier this year...

Md. Man Charged With Drugging Men To Assault Them

Investigators say Eichelberger posed as a wealthy business investor to take his victims to a bar or restaurant to discuss a business opportunity then slip a drug into their drink.

Once the victim’s judgment was altered, police say Eichelberger would take advantage of the men sexually, steal their identities and even blackmail them.

http://wjz.com/local/annapolis.druging.assualt.2.1003860.html


25 posted on 11/06/2009 9:13:13 PM PST by deks
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To: PackerBoy
I have friends in law enforcement who say that they have never had a confirmed date rape drug case -- lots of claims, but never any proof.

...except the 80 kind.

26 posted on 11/06/2009 11:05:42 PM PST by Erasmus (Sid's oxymorons: Journal of Non-Verbal Communications.)
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To: cherry
I do not believe that you can say there has NEVER been a rapist that admitted it. That would mean that you had to know every rapist that ever existed. I was watching the movie, Karla, where the guy used to brag about his multiple rapes to his wife. I do not think that this is your point. You seem to believe that women rarely lie about being raped. You also seem to think that women have no responsibility when it comes to rape. No matter what a woman does, says, or how she dresses she is always the innocent victim. I know of no other situation in life in which the actions of the victim are always disregarded. Such a view is based upon radical feminist ideology rather than reality. Just because a woman says she is raped, that does not make it so. Women are as capable of lying as a man is.
27 posted on 11/06/2009 11:15:09 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: Perdogg

Nope, not a myth, here at the NIH we’ve got ‘em catalogued, and stored with the silicon breast implants, microwave ovens, irradiated food, and cell phones.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/677/whats-in-a-mickey-finn


28 posted on 11/07/2009 6:56:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Perdogg

Ah, yes, the mating call of the coed; “I am sooo drunk!”


29 posted on 11/07/2009 7:50:32 AM PST by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: Perdogg
'What has changed is that, in society as a whole, you used to be laughed at, and indeed rather despised, if you drank too much. 'Now, it seems to be a cult among students and a rite of passage to get absolutely legless.

Professor Touquet is dead on.

30 posted on 11/07/2009 7:53:20 AM PST by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: Perdogg

My British girlfriend said this was common in the UK and in Europe, but not in the USA. She said that she would never leave a drink unattended in the UK, but in the US she did it all the time.


31 posted on 11/07/2009 8:01:52 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Grizzled Bear
I heard about that case. Did the police ever recover his kidneys or did he have to buy replacements?

I imagine those stories are mostly tales. I travel in different circles. My story was about a high powered multi-millionaire 45 yr. old businessman I've known for ten years. The chick was an out of town sexy grifter working the VIP lounges of 5 star hotels. She rolled another guy the next day who had flown in to pick up a brand new Porsche. Stole everything. Same girl description given to the police. She fled town after that. The guy lost an undisclosed cash down payment he brought for the car, also watch, cards, etc.

Date rape drug is very real. Never trust a hot unknown women in a situation that seems to good to be true. Beers only, never leave them unattended.

32 posted on 11/07/2009 6:46:12 PM PST by T. Jefferson (Batton down the hatches, full speed in reverse)
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To: Perdogg

Had a couple of military buddies of mine get slipped some rupies while TDY at New Orleans (they were at Pat O’Brien’s) many years back. One managed to wander off and get back to his hotel...the other lost all his money. The guys told them later that some local women dropped ruppies into guys drinks in order to take their stuff. They called it “getting rolled.”


33 posted on 11/07/2009 6:56:52 PM PST by NELSON111
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