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What recovery? Unemployment shoots past 10 percent
AP ^ | Nov. 6, 2009 | JEANNINE AVERSA

Posted on 11/06/2009 4:05:26 PM PST by La Enchiladita

WASHINGTON — Just when it was beginning to look a little better, the economy relapsed Friday with a return to double-digit unemployment for only the second time since World War II and warnings that next year will be even worse than previously thought.

The jobless rate rocketed to 10.2 percent in October, the highest since early 1983, dealing a psychological blow to Americans as they prepare holiday shopping lists. It was another worse-than-expected report casting a shadow over the struggling recovery.

President Barack Obama called it "a sobering number that underscores the economic challenges that lie ahead." He signed a measure to extend unemployment benefits and to expand a tax credit for homebuyers.

...The Labor Department, using a survey of company payrolls, said the economy shed 190,000 jobs in October. A separate survey of households found 558,000 more people were unemployed last month than in September. Some 15.7 million Americans are out of work.

...And the unemployment rate doesn't include people without jobs who have stopped looking, or those who have settled for part-time jobs. Counting those people, the unemployment rate would be 17.5 percent, the highest since at least 1994.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhoeconomy; democrats; economy; unemployment
Where did all the stimulus go? Long time passing....
1 posted on 11/06/2009 4:05:27 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

Really, truly is sad. And the people most vulnerable, the people less able to withstand the shake down, gets nothing, and the BIG MONEY houses get millions and their CEO’s bonus checks. Taint right. Washington? Is there anyone with brains that understands we can’t afford bailing our the CEO’s?


2 posted on 11/06/2009 4:07:34 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: La Enchiladita

The “recovery” will benefit Goldman Sachs and the rich. Property prices are low. Things are on sale. Life is good! LET THEM EAT CAKE!


3 posted on 11/06/2009 4:08:51 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: rovenstinez

They could, at least, hand out tubes of K-Y Jelly to the masses...


4 posted on 11/06/2009 4:09:33 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Hmmm... Labor department review of payrolls says 190,000. Survey of households says 558,000. Hmmm... Guess who doesn’t use ADP and the other big payroll processors and thus is “missed” by the Labor department? SMALL BUSINESS, the engine that creates most of the jobs in this country.

The Obamassiah is firmly destroying small business, and Labor department is explicitly hiding that fact.


5 posted on 11/06/2009 4:10:10 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Something tells me Jeannine ain’t gonna be workin at the ole AP too much longer with headlines like that.


6 posted on 11/06/2009 4:13:23 PM PST by Jagman
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To: La Enchiladita

The Dems are creating the scenario that they accuse Republicans of doing. They are going to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Just watch.

Barring some major unexpected event, the stock market will continue to gain ground. Unemployment will continue to go up. How can that be? The public companies will gain business and profits at the expense of smaller companies who will go bankrupt. On the margin the tough economy hurts small business more. The larger companies will be buying out their weaker competition. Those companies will also be able to raise their prices while at the same time not raising wages. People will be so hungry for a job, they will go along. Profits for those companies will go up. The stock market will love it.

Capital will have no where else to go with investment money. No one will be starting new businesses, too risky. No one will be buying real estate, too risky. So where else do the rich invest their money? In the stock market.

The Democrats are presiding over not a jobless recovery but, rather, a job killing recovery. At least they will be trying to sell it as a recovery. The people won’t buy it.


7 posted on 11/06/2009 4:14:09 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Call it a ‘wreckovery’!


8 posted on 11/06/2009 4:15:09 PM PST by griswold3 (You think health care is expensive now? Just wait till it's FREE!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Yes, Obammie, we know you are struggling valiantly to undo the lasting damage done by GWB. We know it was worse than you could have imagined, otherwise the stimulus would have been for $2 trillion. We know it’s not your fault, oh noble leader.


9 posted on 11/06/2009 4:16:13 PM PST by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Big Business, Big Labor, Big Government...
What could go wrong?


10 posted on 11/06/2009 4:16:44 PM PST by griswold3 (You think health care is expensive now? Just wait till it's FREE!)
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To: Jagman

I know, I had to do a double-take when I looked at the headline and then the source.


11 posted on 11/06/2009 4:18:24 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad?)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

A job killing recovery. That’s the scary thing: jobs that will never come back.


12 posted on 11/06/2009 4:24:33 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad?)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

The BLS attempts to model the employment increases from new firms via the birth/death adjustment factor.
http://www.bls.gov/ces/cesbdqa.htm
There is significant controversy about the birth/death adjustment, however most is motivated by crackpot conspiracy theories which I know from past contacts with the BLS folks is pure baloney.

the Household survey does not have any issues picking up employment from new small businesses.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 4:35:06 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Hussein Obama is truly post-partisan: It's all about him.)
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To: La Enchiladita

All my liberal friends kept saying we need to be more like Europe, Well now we are! Ten percent unemployment! Whoopie!


14 posted on 11/06/2009 4:44:58 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: La Enchiladita

The peak of unemployment in 1982-1983 was 10.8%. So if the rate goes up by 0.7% it will be the worst since the Depression.


15 posted on 11/06/2009 4:47:39 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (a wild-eyed, exclusionist, birther religio-beast -- Daily Kos)
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To: La Enchiladita

It’s long past 10 percent.

The stimulous is and was stolen money to pay bribes.


16 posted on 11/06/2009 5:07:11 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: La Enchiladita
the highest since at least 1994.

??? It never went past 8% since 1982.

17 posted on 11/06/2009 5:09:46 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
All my liberal friends kept saying we need to be more like Europe, Well now we are! Ten percent unemployment! Whoopie!

That's big of you to have liberal friends. I decided their lack of logic and inability to keep trying to convert me meant I was better off without. With liberals as friends, who needs enemies!
18 posted on 11/06/2009 5:10:02 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: La Enchiladita

Down the Crapper. That’s where.


19 posted on 11/06/2009 5:15:14 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Will Algore give me carbon credits for using treehuggers as home heating fuel?)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I remember that downturn. It basically ran from 1979-83. Watching the news at the time you thought the world was coming to an end, at least for America. The Japanese were going to eventually own us all. Despite all the bad news and pressure from all over, President Reagan got the Congress to pass the Economic Recovery Act. It took a while for it to kick in, but when it did things got a lot better. At the time, cutting taxes as a means to improve the economy was far out crazy talk. However, it worked in the middle 20s and early 60s.

Currently, I don’t see anything being proposed that would match what was done then. I guess we are supposed to tough it out and let the economy naturally recover.


20 posted on 11/06/2009 5:18:28 PM PST by AceMineral (Cryptomonarchist)
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To: La Enchiladita
Where did all the stimulus go? Long time passing....

The stimulus was a tingle up my leg that turned into a solution in my hand.

21 posted on 11/06/2009 5:22:40 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: La Enchiladita
The Labor Department, using a survey of company payrolls, said the economy shed 190,000 jobs in October.

"Shed". Those jobs have passed on. They are no more. They have ceased to be. They're stiff and bereft of life.

I wish the DC gang would stop insulting us.

22 posted on 11/06/2009 5:24:08 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: April Lexington
They could, at least, hand out tubes of K-Y Jelly to the masses...

Along with birth control pills. Because at my advanced age I,d sure as hell to turn up pregnant.

23 posted on 11/06/2009 5:25:40 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: La Enchiladita
Remarkable that this is coming from Obama's AP.
24 posted on 11/06/2009 5:27:02 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
The peak of unemployment in 1982-1983 was 10.8%.

The rates were computed differently then. If they were computed the same way now, the current rate would be closer to 20%.

25 posted on 11/06/2009 5:29:28 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: altair
I wish the DC gang would stop insulting us.

I agree for the insults are getting to be way too expensive.

26 posted on 11/06/2009 6:24:08 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: La Enchiladita

Didn’t we have the same problem in 1981 when Reagan took over ? Eventually the economy recovered, jobs returned.

Unemployment is usually a LAGGING indicator. It should follow suit as the economy slowly expands.


27 posted on 11/06/2009 6:31:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: La Enchiladita
Don't worry, the bulk of the Welfare Bill will kick in six months before the 2010 election.

Since Americans have a short memory, unless the Media reminds them of what those mean Republicans did, the rush of money into Democrat districts will get the Rats Reelected, bet on it.

It's not the news, it's who decides what news to report.

28 posted on 11/06/2009 6:41:38 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Conservatives THINK people are smart. Liberals KNOW people are stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Reagan was able to get tax cuts and other useful policies through.

The Baraqqis are promoting Crap N Tax, Obamacare, card check, and higher taxes for the “rich” all of which scare the devil out of small business which creates most jobs.

They’ve used up all their stimulus ammo on government jobs, saving but not adding.

Mark Zandi from Moody’s predicted today unemployment would peak at 11 per cent and be 10.5 on election day 2010.


29 posted on 11/06/2009 6:41:52 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: La Enchiladita

30 posted on 11/06/2009 7:23:11 PM PST by fujimoh
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To: La Enchiladita
Broader U-6 Unemployment Rate Hits 17.5%
31 posted on 11/06/2009 9:20:59 PM PST by blam
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To: nascarnation; SeekAndFind
...small business which creates most jobs.

60%, according to this article, and small business is facing an unfriendlier than ever environment due to taxes, fees and regulations, esp. as "green-ness" becomes the new fascism.

What I see is, with socialized medicine and vanishing jobs which will never return, the resulting institutionalization of unemployment (benefits were just extended) and therefore, poverty. The impoverished will have nowhere to turn but to BIG GOVERNMENT.

32 posted on 11/07/2009 11:35:55 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad?)
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