Posted on 11/06/2009 1:59:09 PM PST by tosh
from an interview on NPR this morning . . .
ZWERDLING: I want to add something else about Hasan at Walter Reed. The psychiatrist I talked to today said that he was the kind of guy who the staff actually stood around in the hallway, saying: Do you think he's a terrorist, or is he just weird? And now, apparently, Walter Reed is in a lockdown mode where they've been instructed - all the staff has been instructed: Do not talk to anybody about this investigation, except military people. Do not talk to the FBI, because they're afraid, potentially, what if people decide investigating this that people missed potential warning signs about the guy? You know, this is speculation still, but�
INSKEEP: How can they not talk to the FBI?
ZWERDLING: Well, our colleague Dina Temple-Raston has heard that from the FBI, and this military officer is telling me the same thing from Walter Reed.
Figures.
and the A** covering begins....
CYA MODE!
When will Homeland Security get in the CYA MODE?
Well they better go silent.
He was around OUR HEROs.
I would be calling everyone of the shrinks that worked with him asking them what the H did they know and WHEN did they know it.
Makes sense though.
Instead of kicking him out, they just transferred their problem to Ft Hood.
To claim this butt head was suffering from PTSD is a slap in the face to ALL combat vets and even those that were non combatants but ‘in the zone’.
MAYBE THEY MEAN PRE trauma, in Lieu of POST trauma????
Of course this no good SOB is now the victim and WE are wasting good electricity keeping him alive....
The fix is in, O’bozo handcuffs the FBI.
So why doesn’t anyone tell the truth about why obama went to Walter Reed today?
The military won’t cover this up.
The Obamaloon crowd will.
Predicted this earlier today. Its so easy to know what liberals will do to cover their own mistakes.
You know that’s it, the guy was saying crazy stuff and no one reported it because of the laid back civilian type atmosphere of Walter Reed. There are more liberals that enable anti/non-military behavior in that place than just about any other place in the military.
He might have even been encouraged in his thinking in that place.
Robert Gibbs today specifically said to listen to the FBI when it comes to what was in the mind of the Jihadi. He didn't say the military. He didn't say the doctors. He said the FBI.
And zer0 said "don't jump to conclusions." He should have gone on to say "we'll tell you what conclusions to jump to."
I see where they are coming from. Federal agencies, the Pentagon included, have their own “turf”, which more respectably can be thought of as “jurisdiction”. But other agencies, notably the FBI, like to poach on other agencies turf, for lots of reasons—mostly to benefit the FBI.
This is why the CIA hasn’t let the FBI visit it since the 1960s, and probably before then. Importantly, this is an exclusively Pentagon deal, the Pentagon has all the assets it needs to take care of this situation on its own. It has its own police, its own Criminal Investigative Division, its own forensics, etc.
And the FBI would love nothing more than to invade the Pentagon’s turf and involve itself with the investigation. It would have no problem treating high ranking officers like street thugs, and even try to take away the Pentagon’s ability to investigate itself.
Other police agencies are wary of FBI intervention, because correct in this belief or not, they say the FBI agents behave like “gods on Earth”, pushing everyone else aside for the FBI’s prerogatives.
I have been posting this oped by Mark Steyn since early this morning.
My first paragraph intro deals with the probable coverup by Walter Reed and Homeland Security:
“Did Homeland Security and the Brass at Walter Reed ignore the Islamic killer’s rantings, promote him and send him to Ft Hood?”
The killer doctor apparently voiced his hatred of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and our warriors to anyone and on a regular basis. He got by with this bs because he was Islamofascist, who became an Islamofascist Mass Killer.
Did Homeland Security and the Brass at Walter Reed ignore the Islamic killer’s rantings, promote him and send him to Ft Hood?
Mark Stein does a great job of shredding the pc bs and getting to reality of Islamic Killers in America and around the world:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2380112/posts
MARK STEYN: MULTICULTURAL ILLUSIONS KILL - NO STRATEGY TO DEFEND AGAINST IDEOLOGY
dakota beacon ^ | November 06, 2009 | Mark Steyn
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 9:36:18 AM by Mount Athos
Thirteen dead and 31 wounded would be a bad day for the US military in Afghanistan, and a great victory for the Taliban. When it happens in Texas, in the heart of the biggest military base in the nation, at a processing center for soldiers either returning from or deploying to combat overseas, it is not merely a “tragedy” (as too many people called it) but a glimpse of a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what we have called, since 9/11, the “war on terror”. Brave soldiers trained to hunt down and kill America’s enemy abroad were killed in the safety and security of home by, in essence, the same enemy – a man who believes in and supports everything the enemy does.
And he’s a US Army major.
And his superior officers and other authorities knew about his beliefs but seemed to think it was just a bit of harmless multicultural diversity – as if believing that “the Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor” (ie, his fellow American soldiers) and writing Internet paeans to the “noble” “heroism” of suicide bombers and, indeed, objectively supporting the other side in an active war is to be regarded as just some kind of alternative lifestyle that adds to the general vibrancy of the base.
When it emerged early on Thursday afternoon that the shooter was Nidal Malik Hasan, there appeared shortly thereafter on Twitter a flurry of posts with the striking formulation: “Please judge Major Malik Nadal [sic] by his actions and not by his name.”
The above is an excerpt. Go to the link below for Mark’s complete oped.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2380112/posts
First they promoted this TROPOS to Major inspite of his verbals acts of treason, then they sent him to Ft Hood.
“GJELTEN: That’s right, Steve. You know, you referred to the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. There’s - almost seems to be a phenomenon that you could maybe call a pre-traumatic stress disorder. There have been a lot suicides in the Army, many more as a result of these wars than in previous years. Interestingly enough, as many soldiers have killed themselves before they were due to be deployed as after. Thirty-five percent of the suicides are pre-deployment, 35 percent are post-deployment. So there seems to be an issue here of expectation of what you are getting into. And the fact that Major Hasan would’ve known better than others, even, about how traumatic combat experience would be, you know, raises the question of, you know, was he an example of these soldiers who are literally freaked out by what they are likely to face when they are deployed?”
Sure. In my experience soldiers are all trembling in their boots at the thought of being deployed... /s
Honestly, there are a few, but the vast majority of them are chomping at the bit to get over there.
Pre-traumatic stress my @$$.
This media coverage sickens me.
Time to turn that place upside down!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2380364/posts
Fort Hood shootings: FBI given gunman’s name six months ago
Telegraph ^
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 2:20:36 PM by Sub-Driver
Fort Hood shootings: FBI given gunman’s name six months ago The US Army major who killed 13 people in a shooting spree at America’s biggest military base had come to the attention of the FBI six months earlier over possible links to extremist comments posted on the internet.
By Gordon Rayner and Nick Allen in Fort Hood, Texas Published: 9:59PM GMT 06 Nov 2009
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a devout Muslim who was trying to buy his way out of the Army, was suspected of being the author of postings which compared suicide bombers to heroic soldiers who throw themselves onto grenades to save others.
It also emerged that Hasan, 39, had described the US Army as “the aggressor” in Iraq and Afghanistan and was resisting a planned deployment to Afghanistan, raising questions over whether the military missed warning signs which might have prevented the massacre.
Witnesses said Hasan shouted “Allahu akbar”, Arabic for God is great, as he opened fire – a phrase commonly used by Islamic militant suicide bombers – though investigators said there was no evidence he had been recruited by al-Qaeda or other Islamic extremist organisations.
Hasan – who was initially thought to have been killed – is being kept alive on a ventilator after being shot four times by a civilian policewoman
Because the Media is part of the alliance.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2380364/posts
Good job. It may be the FBI was is the real CYA respondent here.
Remember that NSA did their job and intercepted a Pro Jihadi rant by Hassan regarding suicide bombers. Who do they turn that info to? Of course, the domestic terrorist investigator which is the FBI.
So, the FBI has as much CYA rationale if not more than the Army does.
Obviously the spin talking points have been issued to the MSN by Axelrod from the heady precincts of the White House.
We need to change the language. I laugh about all the descriptions of this incident.
Words are used like shootings , killings , ( couched in terms as if the victims could shoot back.)
This happened at a med facility where there was a long cue for flu shots and other medical processing.The perpetrator calmly got to his feet , reached into his jacket, drew two pistols and calmly started walking down the rows of people , pointing his weapons and shooting them calmly, point blank, in cold blood.
This was not “shootings” This was not “killings.” This was genocidal execution. These human beings were dispatched as if they were animals.One woman was 6 months pregnant.
TIME TO TELL THE TRUTH. GENOCIDAL EXECUTION is what this was.
The same sort that happened in Kenya , courtesy of Obama’s tinkering there, in 2007.
OBAMA’S FAULT!!!!!!!
THIS WAS AN ACT OF RELIGIOUS GENOCIDE.
THIS WAS A WAR CRIME.
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Absolutely!
So...the military brass might be politically correct fools who stand inside and protect the Muslim terrorist infiltration of the military for the god of political correctness? Would not surprise me. The elite are insane. Problem is, their insanity kills us.
I'm sure they did that. The question is why? Who does it benefit??? Is it just political correctness run amok?
Does the FBI have equal jurisdiction on this matter with the military. The base is on American soil, so I would think so.
I think there is something immense under the surface here and both the Islamist Lobby, the US Military at the senior levels (because they f*cked up and now US soldiers are dead over this on American soil now arriving at Dover for autopsies) and the Administration have something to hide. I invite others to search and dig and more importantly, when you find something damaging, ARCHIVE IT FIRST TO HARD DRIVE, and Screen Shot and copy all text, before announcing your find on the internet because in this cover up mood right now over Hasan, they are going to try to take down websites and silence people who know something damaging, since it will invariably point to Enemy-Within-Islamist Fundamentalism (even if a lone act) at the least and may even connect to persons of interest and other individuals who will not welcome such scrutiny.
Perhaps it is the FBI who should be worried, if they were given his name 6 months ago...
And I’m guessing that some folks at Walter Reed aren’t totally shocked by yesterday’s events. Too bad it’s too late to make a difference.
You hit the nail on the head. The FBI is just slightly more trustworthy than the BATF any more and not much more professional.
You hit the nail on the head. The FBI is just slightly more trustworthy than the BATF any more and not much more professional.
“I’m sure they did that. The question is why? Who does it benefit??? Is it just political correctness run amok?”
The terrorist served on Obama’s transition team. He was known to the people he worked with and schooled with to be a major case of Muslim radical kook. Yet he was a part of Homeland Security’s transition team for Obama.
A few months after the transition team gig he gets nailed by the FBI posting Jihadist kill ‘em crap on the Internet. The military promotes the guy and prepares to send him into the war zone, heavily armed to kill people and break things.
He is totally anti-war and the military has him counseling troubled soldiers suffering from Post Traumatic war problems...
The commander and chief of the military picked this jihadist as a transistion team member. If the military brass had any integrity they would have nailed the jihadist and taken the fall out from the White House which probably would have harmed or ended their careers, abet, saved soldiers’ lives. But few officers in the military have integrity and courage like that.
There should be Congressional hearings to find out who in the military went along to get along and ended up killing soldiers. Also, why was a jihadist on the transition team and how deeply has the military Federal government and Congress been infiltrated? Who brought them in and why?
See the link at #23....and read the book...the Leftists are in Cahoots....
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