Posted on 11/05/2009 11:31:29 AM PST by theruleshavechanged
On Tuesday, the Board of Supervisors voted 9-2 to enact a ban on the declawing of cats. Supervisors Sean Elsbernd and Michela Alioto-Pier voted against the legislation.
“It is well-documented and well-understood from a medical prospective that [declawing] is torture. It is a form of animal cruelty,” said Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi, who introduced the legislation.
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But you can abort your child!
This was obviously the work of the upholstery lobby.
Left-wing nutjobs.
“Every Creature Counts” is an organization that will not allow adoption by anyone who intends or who ever has declawed a cat. They would rather the cat be killed than allow declawing. Freaks.
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These idiots waste so much time and effort on the stupidest things.
But ripping and tearing a human being apart in the womb is A-OK!!
Would it be acceptable if ones's parents/guardian decided to have one's fingernails permanently removed.
Elsbernd is often the lone voice of reason on the SF Board of Supervisors.
What if you have your cat declawed, but then you give it medical marijuana?
Back Alley declawings?
The unintended consequence of this is that many kittens will be put to sleep.
-PJ
LOL!!...............
"Animals need to be regarded as more than the material property of an owner," Dr. Elliot Katz, president of In Defense of Animals, said in January after the San Francisco Board of Supervisors voted 8-3 in favor of the measure.
Declawing saved our cat’s life. I would have thrown him outside to be an outdoor cat if not for declawing - probably would have died sooner. Lived indoors for 15 years after declawing.
They will end up in shelters.
The complete article from another source states that abandoned kitties would be unable to defend themselves...yet these same folks would tear a human’s weapon from his hand and tell him to outsource his defense to the police. I know, why don’t the cats outsource their defense to the dogs? That’s what the pigs in Animal Farm....hmmmmm
At my house my wife’s cats, prefer the term “pet servants”. what is the line “dogs have owners, cats have staff”?
Declawing them is torture but mutilating them to remove their sex organs is OK?
Or Cat-sack (hacky sack with a cat). “You Don’t Mess With the Zohan” - Adam Sandler movie. The cat does not get hurt.
I don’t know how to post pics.
I have two cats, one is de-clawed. She can defend herself from the dogs and the other cat just fine. My cats think it is the height of adventure when they go out on the back porch. Then something moves, somewhere, and they run back inside. Definitely indoor kitties. I think they tease the dogs by sitting by the door during the day, “HA HA, we’re in here, warm and cozy”.
Dogs have owners, cats have staff
I Know I will never ever declaw another one of my cats....I realize now it’s not only cruel...but it prevents them from doing many things WE don’t realize.
LOL! Good one.
Ooooh, good catch...
Yes, then, my kitties have been both tortured and mutilated and are permanently indoors. They can all catch mice like nobody’s business - on the rare occasions that makes it long enough for me to see it. It does interrupt their naps, though...
I wouldn’t declaw my cat but understand why others do it. Still to make it a crime? These guys just can’t pass enough laws.
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Don't underestimate your cats. We have 6 (yes that's six!), and 5 of them were declawed at 12 weeks. Didn't hurt them one bit, they showed no adverse affects or any signs of discomfort or pain. What about cutting dog's tails and trimming their ears? That stuff is strictly cosmetic.
Only one of our cats goes outside regularly and when the others manage to accidently escape they do all the things clawed cats do. They catch mice, moles, gophers, climb trees, trellises, and fences (the latter mostly by just jumping to the top). Our regular outside cat defends himself against the clawed neighbor cats just fine, but that may be because he weighs 16 lbs and is about 15-16" at the shoulder. The front claws are only used for holding prey, they use their rear claws to rake their opponent with rabbit-like kicks. We wouldn't be able to manage all those cats in the house if they all had claws--our furniture would be in shreds.
You can also cut your penis off at the taxpayer’s expense and call yourself Shirley!
Well...my one cat displayed pain in her paws for over a year, she can’t climb the cat trees and woudln’t be able to defend herself if got in a fight. She tried to jump to the cat tree and fell 7 ft since she couldn’t hang on. They fall alot. My neighbors declawed cat got outside and was mauled by a raccoon....she cost him big bucks at the hospital where the cat stayed over a week. She couldn’t defend herself and couldn’t climb a tree.
It may well be "well-documented" the same way bigfoot is.
This works directly agains any attempt for cat owners to be responsible. Allowing their pets to use neighbors' yards as their bathroom is the problem.
A long time ago, this was a subject of discussion in my family. We have always had indoor cats, and they have consistently outlived their siblings, often by a factor of 100%.
We had all our cats declawed, front feet only. The Vet's explanation was the ultimate of clarity. Should the cats escape, they still maintain their climbing ability with their back legs, and their destructive "instinct" indoors is limited to the front legs. That has worked for us perfectly, for the benefit of the entire family.
As it turns out, none of our cats have ever gone missing for more than a couple of hours, perhaps two or three instances in over 40 years.
I am not surprised that such asinine laws should come out of the pervert capital of the US. Reason and logic is not their strong suit.
Try not to adopt the animal rights whacko nomenclature. The part that is removed is in no way comparable to that on a human. They are playing on your emotions.
Daly City, San Bruno and Sausalito Vets must be very happy.
I made the mistake on my first Siamese, now seeing Jack enjoying life to the fullest, I'd never declaw again.
My 2 year old cat was literally clawing holes in the walls of this house, saying nothing of the furniture. Clawing toys didn’t change this behavior.
It was either declaw or euthanize.
The cat lived 14 years after declawing. If you asked the cat to choose death or declawing, he’d tell you he had a great 16 years with me declawed.
Mine were born in a barn because their mommas knew it was a safe place. Then momma would get eaten by a coyote hunting for food. Those that couldn't be given away or got away from being eaten ended up in the house (wife).
Without declawing all the furniture would be ruined, even with scratch posts. Carpets would be ruined. They were fixed, neutered, and now live the life of Riley. The oldest, now 12+, sleeps under my chin every night and I hate cats.
But they don't know that, because they don't have reasoning power. I pet them, feed them, and they live their lives in the house.
Their prognosis if they had remained outside? Three years tops. Disease, predation, accident, cannibalism, there is nothing romantic about the life of a feral cat.
Claw amputation or death. Claw amputation was far more humane.
Please note that I didn't say I agreed with the bill. Also, I said “fewer”, not “no” declawings, if people were aware of what's involved. All I was saying is that the procedure is more serious, than the label implies.
It sounds like you gave it a lot of thought & you had some good reasons for doing it.
“I Know I will never ever declaw another one of my cats....I realize now it’s not only cruel...but it prevents them from doing many things WE don’t realize.”
I agree. I didn’t used to know what de-clawing a cat involved, but now I do and I wouldn’t do it to a cat of mine. OTOH, I don’t know that I have the right to make that decision for other people. Seems like a slippery slope into the hands of the whackos at PETA or the HSUS.
Neighboring San Mateo County vets just got a big boost in business.
I realize now it’s not only cruel...but it prevents them from doing many things...
I once read that declawing a cat is the equivalent of removing a human's finger down to the first joint.
Although, they are destructive little b*stards with claws I found that providing something as simple as a wicker box will satisfy their instinct. (however, my door jambs show what happens when that isn't available!)
Yea, sorry, it is sometimes hard to convey tone in writing. I didn’t mean to infer anything harsh or distort your position.
I simply meant to convey that regardless of what you call it, it is not cruel to the cat. It may be more in depth than simply pulling a claw out, but so is spaying and neutering.
I like my dogs. The cats, because I don’t like cats, sit on me at every opportunity and the oldest sleeps under my chin.
It must be a cat thing.
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