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AFGHAN PRESIDENT SEEKS UNION WITH TALIBAN
The Last Crusade ^ | Nov. 5, 2009 | Paul L. Williams, Ph.D.

Posted on 11/05/2009 10:41:19 AM PST by Psion

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What Are We Fighting For - - Part 999

Karzai Embraces the Enemy

by

Paul L. Williams, Ph.D.

thelastcrusade.org

Afghan President Hamid Karzai today called for a rapprochement with the Taliban, who have established in permanent presence in 80% of the country.

But his remarks failed to capture the attention of the major news outlets.

Karzai seeks not only reconciliation with the radical insurgents but offers them the right to equal share in the shaping of government policies.

In the televised speech, he said: "We call on our Taliban brothers to come home and embrace their land,”

Mr Karzai made his remarks as the Taliban issued a statement ridiculing him as a foreign "puppet.”

The statement from the Taliban said the elections had shown "decisions on Afghanistan are made in Washington and London, while the announcements are made in Kabul."

Mr Karzai's previous calls for talks with Mullah Mohammad Omar, former head of the Taliban regime, have so far been snubbed.

836 Americans have been killed in the war in Afghanistan.

4,398 have been wounded.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; karzai; obama; taiban

1 posted on 11/05/2009 10:41:20 AM PST by Psion
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To: Psion

One of the important things that happened as part of the “surge” in Iraq was that local militias were convinced to join the fight against the baddies.

This is one of the things they will need to do in Afghanistan, is to peel the Pashtuns away from the insurgency.


2 posted on 11/05/2009 10:44:35 AM PST by marron
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To: Psion

Obama is probably standing in the shadows encouraging Karzai!


3 posted on 11/05/2009 10:47:16 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Psion

Union? Like SEIU?


4 posted on 11/05/2009 10:48:10 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: marron

Ah,,, you are one those people who imagine there is a “Good Taliban” .... a “Good Hizbullah”, “Good PLO” etc.

There isn’t.


5 posted on 11/05/2009 10:48:49 AM PST by Tamar Rush (Draft John Bolton--Quick!)
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To: Psion

He’s hoping that, like crocodiles, if he makes a deal with them they’ll eat him last.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 11:00:58 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

It’s like Czechoslovakia making a deal with Hitler after the West abandoned them. Obama’s made it clear that he’s on his own, so he has to play the crummy hand he’s been dealt.


7 posted on 11/05/2009 11:05:57 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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To: Psion
Sadly, it may be his best option since the President is going to do to little to late, doesn't really want to do anything at all, and the will of the American people is basically “put a bullet in this nag and let it die”. I want our people to come home if we're not going to unleash them to get the job done or supply them.

It is totally pointless for some of us to bear the brunt of the suffering if we all aren't going to support them. Karzai should cut his best deal and let's come home.

Personally, if they like it that way, let them be happy. Just keep it out of here or they will cease to be happy.

8 posted on 11/05/2009 11:19:13 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

That’s “too little, too late”. I hate when my fingers out-type my brain.


9 posted on 11/05/2009 11:20:17 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“It’s like Czechoslovakia making a deal with Hitler after the West abandoned them. Obama’s made it clear that he’s on his own, so he has to play the crummy hand he’s been dealt.”

This is how I see it too, so it’s hard for me to really blame Karzai for trying to come to some sort of reconciliation with the Taliban, but I’ll be surprised if he is successful in this. Why should the Taliban settle for power-sharing in a quasi-democracy when they’re starting to believe that they’ll be able to get the full-fledged tyranny they so desire if they just hang on for a while longer?


10 posted on 11/05/2009 11:44:52 AM PST by Texan Tory
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To: Psion
Karzai saw how quickly Obama threw Poland and the Czechs under the bus.

Time to declare victory over al Qaeda, and bring the troops home.

We are now into the third month of voting "present" on Afghanistan, with no resolution in sight.

11 posted on 11/05/2009 11:57:03 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: Psion

Afghanistan is a land made up of many tribes.

You can’t educate hundreds of tribes into a democracy if it’s not their idea to begin with.

Kind of like 0bama . . . he can’t be educated into being a proud American Citizen because it’s not his idea.


12 posted on 11/05/2009 12:26:27 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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To: Tamar Rush
Ah,,, you are one those people who imagine there is a “Good Taliban” .... a “Good Hizbullah”, “Good PLO” etc.

No.

The Pashtuns are the center of gravity of Afghanistan. Karzai is himself Pashtun.

You have to peel the Pashtuns away from the insurgency. This is the same thing Petraeus had to do in Iraq, to peel the sunni away from the insurgents. If you can do it, you win. This is precisely the challenge now in Afghanistan.

13 posted on 11/05/2009 12:48:56 PM PST by marron
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To: Psion; kellynla; Marine_Uncle
fyi

Maybe a bit of Hillary's Grand Bargain?

14 posted on 11/08/2009 3:21:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: marron
See this...FR Thread I started:

US puts its faith in Pakistan's military

15 posted on 11/08/2009 5:01:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Psion

Can you blame him?

We’re looking for reasons to ditch him and a way out. If I were in his shoes I too would be talking to the Taliban.


16 posted on 11/08/2009 6:08:21 PM PST by Red6
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To: Psion
We have far more important things to do now:

It's not easy to figure out how the Army becomes green!

How will we integrate gay folks better?

Rerouting money for Afghanistan and Iraq (Already appropriated) to fund pet projects included in the stimulus bill ain't easy man! But no worries, Congress figured out how.

17 posted on 11/08/2009 6:19:41 PM PST by Red6
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To: Psion
We have far more important things to do now:

It's not easy to figure out how the Army becomes green!

How will we integrate gay folks better?

Rerouting money for Afghanistan and Iraq (Already appropriated) to fund pet projects included in the stimulus bill ain't easy man! But no worries, Congress figured out how.

18 posted on 11/08/2009 6:19:57 PM PST by Red6
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We should expect the worse. Zero’s team wants out of Afghanistan.


19 posted on 11/08/2009 6:56:35 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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