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Barbara Boxer Gives Republicans the Shaft, Tosses Senate Committee Rules Out the Window
Bob McCarty Writes ^ | 11-5-09 | Bob McCarty

Posted on 11/05/2009 8:58:05 AM PST by BobMcCartyWrites

Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) appeared on Fox News Channel this morning (see video) to discuss the unprecedented actions taken by Senate Environment and Public Works Committee Chairman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) this morning. According to Inhofe, ranking member of the committee, Senator Boxer reported out S. 1733, the Kerry-Boxer climate change bill, without one member of the minority party present, a clear violation of longstanding committee rules.


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Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) appeared on Fox News Channel this morning (see video) to discuss the unprecedented actions taken by Senate Environment and Public Works Committee Chairman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) this morning. According to Inhofe, ranking member of the committee, Senator Boxer reported out S. 1733, the Kerry-Boxer climate change bill, without one member of the minority party present, a clear violation of longstanding committee rules.

Soon after making his appearance on Fox, Senator Inhofe issued the following statement about Senator Boxer’s actions:

“I am deeply disappointed by Chairman Boxer’s decision to violate the rules and longstanding precedent of the committee,” Senator Inhofe said. “The Republicans offered a clear path forward to a bipartisan markup, but it was summarily rejected by Chairman Boxer. Instead, she decided to ignore the entreaties of all 6 ranking members from Senate committees with some share of jurisdiction over climate change legislation, as well as leading moderates in the Senate. Her action signals the death knell for the Kerry-Boxer bill.

“As was written recently, the Kerry-Boxer bill is ‘bad policy’ that ‘resembles the failed climate proposals of the past.’ It is time for a different approach, one that grows, rather than shrinks our economy, creates, rather than destroys jobs, and strengthens, rather than weakens our energy security. We can do this by encouraging development of all of America’s vast energy resources.”

To read previous posts about the Kerry-Boxer bill and what it means for Americans, click here.

1 posted on 11/05/2009 8:58:09 AM PST by BobMcCartyWrites
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

You know just thinking about that, they can stick it where the sun Does not shine.


2 posted on 11/05/2009 9:03:26 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

Just S.O.P. these days in Congress.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 9:03:26 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: BobMcCartyWrites
Calling John MeCain and Mini-MeCain!!

Now Do You See How Your Friends Across The Isle Treat Your Fellow Republicans!!!

4 posted on 11/05/2009 9:03:39 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: BobMcCartyWrites
Clearly Tuesday's elections have alerted them to their need to accelerate their ruin-america schedule.
5 posted on 11/05/2009 9:04:52 AM PST by getitright (Are you hoping to change back yet?)
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

It would sure help if Senate Repubs didn’t roll over like whipped dogs and allow this type of thing to happen. Saying “I’m terribly disappointed ...” just doesn’t cut it. Bringing Senate business to a halt with disruptive tactics does. We are at war. The other side knows it and pulls no punches. Our side seems to think bleating is more than adequate.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 9:06:16 AM PST by hampdenkid
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

When voters in PA, W VA, TN and other coal states go to the polls next year, I hope they will remember how the Democrats railroaded this bill through to ruin the economy with their bogus “climate change” bill.
And hopefully, CA will be the state that suffers most from its disastrous effects on business.


7 posted on 11/05/2009 9:06:46 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

We the People need to storm the gates of Congress and take the damned place back.


8 posted on 11/05/2009 9:07:06 AM PST by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

Boxer, another Brooklyn born liberal, sorta like Bella Abzug, with the same mind set.


9 posted on 11/05/2009 9:08:28 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (No 3rd Parties, the real winner will be the loser. A 3 party election needs a run off.)
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To: shankbear

Northern Florida regiment standing by.


10 posted on 11/05/2009 9:09:02 AM PST by Mouton
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

When are we going to learn that the rules NEVER apply to the libs????

If the rules don’t apply to THEM, then, they don’t apply to US.

THEY are the ones forcing this confrontation onto the rest of us.


11 posted on 11/05/2009 9:10:42 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: hampdenkid
Bears repeating:

It would sure help if Senate Repubs didn’t roll over like whipped dogs and allow this type of thing to happen. Saying “I’m terribly disappointed ...” just doesn’t cut it. Bringing Senate business to a halt with disruptive tactics does. We are at war. The other side knows it and pulls no punches. Our side seems to think bleating is more than adequate.

Thanks.

12 posted on 11/05/2009 9:11:03 AM PST by onedoug
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2378551/posts

American Thinker ^ | November 4, 2009 | Marc Sheppard

It seems Boxer cited a “provision in the rules” she claims allows her to proceed as long as a majority of committee members are present. Not that I don’t trust her, although I most certainly do not, but I thought a quick trip over to the EPW rules site for a look-see was in order.

Now, according to Rule 2 of the committee rules: [my emphasis]
“At committee business meetings, and for the purpose of approving the issuance of a subpoena or approving a committee resolution, one third of the members of the committee, at least two of whom are members of the minority party, constitute a quorum, except as provided in subsection (d).”

And it appears to be the language of subsection (d) that Boxer is attempting to play games with:
“No measure or matter may be reported to the Senate by the committee unless a majority of committee members cast votes in person.”

From a layman’s reading, one would surmise that although the bill can be reported out of committee with a simple majority, at least 2 Republicans need be present to consider any amendments. In which case, Boxer’s decision to continue markup sessions without minority representation would be as illegal as it is unprecedented.

Interestingly enough, Boxer’s deployment of the “nuclear option,” as many Republicans are referring to it, didn’t seem to bother Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina — the first Republican to endorse the bill. He and Senators Lieberman and Kerry just finished discussing the Bill before cameras, yet Graham said nothing about the Democrats’ impropriety. As it was, after all, his inexplicable turncoat actions that enabled Democrats and the MSM to stamp the now meaningless label “bi-partisan” on this disastrous legislation, surely something should have been said about this breach in EPW rules.

Prior to gaveling out for today’s lunchtime recess, Boxer repeated numerous times that she intended to abide by the rules.

The question is: Whose rules – those of the committee or those of the climate-hysterics currently controlling it?


13 posted on 11/05/2009 9:14:32 AM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: EBH

“The question is: Whose rules – those of the committee or those of the climate-hysterics currently controlling it?”

Rules? We don’t need no stinkin rules.


14 posted on 11/05/2009 9:17:10 AM PST by Mouton
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To: kittymyrib
wooooo woooooo wooooo - before you throw ALL of us out the window...I LIVE IN SO.CAL. - WE DIDN'T DO THIS TO AMERICA!

and...

However CA goes..so goes our economy.

Thanks for helping Miss ALLABOUTMEkittymyrib. It's just sooo easy to throw the rest of us workin' our butts off out here to change things, under the bus.

You need to get all those broad brushes out of your paint box and remember we are ALL in this together, fighing a COMMON CAUSE.

15 posted on 11/05/2009 9:17:51 AM PST by NordP (COMMON SENSE CONSERVATIVES - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Healthcare!!!)
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

No surprise here. The Democratic communists RAT party are destroying America.


16 posted on 11/05/2009 9:18:35 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

HOw about Inhofe just tell the truth about global warming and man-made climate change and how it is just a big hoax to steal the wealth of the productive?

I’m sick of politicians’ meely-mouth BS talk.


17 posted on 11/05/2009 9:20:07 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: NordP

Buck up dude. Your state is a crap hole just like mine is becoming. Stop your whining.


18 posted on 11/05/2009 9:22:30 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Mouton
Boxer = lizard queen
19 posted on 11/05/2009 9:25:27 AM PST by y6162 (uish..)
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

IIRC, the Dems were just as petty the last time they were in the majority.


20 posted on 11/05/2009 9:32:39 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: BobMcCartyWrites
I just read in the WSJ that all the huge wind turbines Texas is buying to provide the basis for their wind farms ARE BEING BOUGHT FROM CHINA using Belgian and German technology!!!

So much for the economy-expanding "green technology" and "green jobs".

21 posted on 11/05/2009 9:41:03 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: TexasCajun

Would that be Gilligan’s Aisle? Sheesh


22 posted on 11/05/2009 9:41:51 AM PST by newbie 10-21-00
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

I’m so sick of hearing the “deeply disappointed” line out of RINO politicians. It’s right up there with the “reach across the aisle” BS out of McCain and his ilk.

Hey Inhofe, why don’t you just say it - if you’re deeply disappointed you have not been paying attention for the last few decades as Dems have walked all over you R’s, almost always as you allow them. At least have the cajones to admit the Dems do this BECAUSE YOU ALLOW THEM and refuse to get dirty.

When the GOP grows a spine, holds the Dems feet to the fire, stops giving up power even when YOU are handed control and responsibility, we might stop targeting you and all the other RINO’s in DC.

You sound absolutely ridiculous claiming to be disappointed, as if the Dems have had free rein for years to break the rules as you sit there like a child upset that the Dems took your candy!!

Grow a pair and go after the Dems in every single way the rules, or NO rules, allow you to target them, or face your base targeting you!!!


23 posted on 11/05/2009 9:49:07 AM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: getitright
Clearly Tuesday's elections have alerted them to their need to accelerate their ruin-america schedule.

No matter how the elections turned out, the only thing that was going to happen was that the 'Rats would use their sizable majorities to speed things up. Think about it. If the 'Rats had won, they'd be saying, see, the people agree with us, we've got to speed things along. If they lost, they'd be in even more of a hurry because they know their window of opportunity was closing and they'd have to ram through as much as they could before it got harder to do so.

Everyone here needs to know that the 'Rats, if nothing else, understand politics. It literally is war without a physical fight. When an advantage presents itself, you pounce. And they believe in the Alinsky-Sun Tzu rules. You don't negotiate with your enemy, you destroy him. You don't play nice, you play rough and dirty if necessary to win. You only talk about "bipartisanship" if it strengthens your hand and/or weakens the hand of your opponent. When you have the upper hand, you push it and push it as long as you have it until your opponent breaks. If the 'Pubs ever regain a majority, I hope they remember this. But something tells me they either won't, or won't put what they've learned to good use.

24 posted on 11/05/2009 9:53:42 AM PST by chimera
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To: hampdenkid
It would sure help if Senate Repubs didn’t roll over like whipped dogs and allow this type of thing to happen. Saying “I’m terribly disappointed ...” just doesn’t cut it. Bringing Senate business to a halt with disruptive tactics does. We are at war. The other side knows it and pulls no punches. Our side seems to think bleating is more than adequate.

Amen!

Does anyone think for one moment what the reaction would be if the Republitards had tried something like this?

The DummyCrats (aided and abetted by a 24/7 coverage of the State-Run Media) would have made a federal case (literally) out of it and been looking to bring charges against the offenders.

And what does our side do?

Waaaaaaah!

Our side does not know how to fight and does not know how to take advantage of something like this.

How about shutting down the Senate until it is reversed?

Something drastic that the media would not be able to ignore?

Nope!! Nothing but a bunch of sheeple with not a pair amongst all.

Just like Steele yesterday. That wuss refused to take a shot at the Messiah when he had the opportunity and suggest that the election results were a repudiation of his highness and his policies; instead, he wimped out and gave O'Bozzo a pass.

We need to kick everyone of the girly-men, schmuks out and get someone who is not going to be part of the problem, but part of the solution.

25 posted on 11/05/2009 9:54:08 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: getitright

That’s the first thing I thought — pushing the agenda forward. There is also a report that Boxer was told by Reid to wait until next week so they could paint the GOP the Party of NO but she went for it today.

Only Senator Max Baucus, D-MT, voted against this moving out of committee.


26 posted on 11/05/2009 9:57:35 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Brytani

Just a smidgen...You have to read Chapter 50 of Vince Flynn’s new book. A direct big time slap at Boxer.


27 posted on 11/05/2009 9:59:15 AM PST by vortec94
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To: NordP; kittymyrib
"...before you throw ALL of us out the window...I LIVE IN SO.CAL. - WE DIDN'T DO THIS TO AMERICA!..."

Two words: Henry Waxman.

Actually, didn't even need two words, his emoticon would have sufficed:

:8)
28 posted on 11/05/2009 10:05:01 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: vortec94

Do you have the name of the book? Sorry, have not heard of Vince Flynn before.


29 posted on 11/05/2009 10:07:44 AM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Brytani; SoCalPol; OKSooner; Osage Orange

Senator Jim Inhofe is the ONLY Senator who has been fighting Cap and Trade since the early 90’s and you have the nerve to tell him to grow a pair.

You don’t have a clue about Senator Jim Inhofe who backs down to no one. Your post is so far out of line that I am having trouble replying without going through the roof.

I am part of Jim Inhofe’s base along with a lot of other Conservative Republicans in Oklahoma who supported our Senator by overwhelmingly electing him back to the Senate to fight things like Cap and Trade.

Why don’t you do some homework before going after Inhofe — asks 99% of the conservatives around here and they will tell you the same thing that Inhofe is one of the few in the Senate that you can always count on to be Conservative.

You have just highlighted some of the problems on here with some posts in the last year. Tar and feathering a good conservative should make all of us wonder about your post.

You picked the wrong Senator to go after and better get new talking points.


30 posted on 11/05/2009 10:09:31 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: hampdenkid
An apt observation. The Democrats are fighting a war, or at least a street fight, while the GOP, as usual, is playing a game, all eager to show what good sports they are.

When will someone who claims to represent me, act like this stuff matters?

31 posted on 11/05/2009 10:12:30 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: subterfuge

Are you crazy? Inhofe has been touting this as Junk Science for as long as I can remember. Obviously some of you are not paying attention.


32 posted on 11/05/2009 10:12:47 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: subterfuge
Ummmmm.....

He has!!

Probably more than any other local yokel....

Do some research.......

Check it out!

33 posted on 11/05/2009 10:19:55 AM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: PhiKapMom

I think the prevailing sentiment is that the rather mild protestations of a single senator, no matter how solid his “conservative” credentials may be, are shockingly inadequate, given the seriousness of what we’re facing.


34 posted on 11/05/2009 10:21:29 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: PhiKapMom; Brytani
Not sure if he's the ONLY....but he's been consistent.

Nice rebut!!

FRegards,

35 posted on 11/05/2009 10:23:33 AM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: Brytani

May have doubled.... book is Pursuit of Honor...Vince Flynn has written several books, all are page turners....fiction novels. All are available on Kindle..


36 posted on 11/05/2009 10:24:57 AM PST by vortec94
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To: PhiKapMom

Amen, PhiKapMom!

Those folks criticizing Senator Inhofe have obviously not done their homework!

I read these comments, and was just stunned at their lack of knowledge! Jeez!

We are so blessed to Senators Inhofe and Coburn!


37 posted on 11/05/2009 10:27:37 AM PST by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. NRA, GOA, SAF, CCRKBA. FUBO.)
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To: Cheetahcat

clear violation of longstanding committee rules

Rules! Rules! We dont need no stinkin rules. From another ignorant slut.


38 posted on 11/05/2009 10:27:46 AM PST by bikerman (Buck Farack)
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To: BobMcCartyWrites

Hey boxer...what goes around comes around.

You’ll get yours in due time.


39 posted on 11/05/2009 10:33:40 AM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: subterfuge

Not whining - how in heaven’s name did you get THAT out of what I wrote???....I said, I’m working my butt off to change things out here and we should promote a more unified front against what we all are peeved about, instead of “throwing the baby out with the bathwater.”


40 posted on 11/05/2009 10:51:10 AM PST by NordP (COMMON SENSE CONSERVATIVES - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Healthcare!!!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I live in San Diego...sorry - I didn’t give you all Waxy


41 posted on 11/05/2009 10:53:03 AM PST by NordP (COMMON SENSE CONSERVATIVES - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Healthcare!!!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Forgive me, I should have answered in a more mirror-work way....

TWO WORDS: SAN DIEGO.

Forgive me :8)

42 posted on 11/05/2009 10:54:22 AM PST by NordP (COMMON SENSE CONSERVATIVES - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Healthcare!!!)
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To: BobMcCartyWrites
Barbara Boxer, the consumate political prostitute with the common sense of a bag of hammers.

Nam Vet

43 posted on 11/05/2009 10:59:04 AM PST by Nam Vet ("Goodnight Mrs. Calabash, Wherever you are ! ")
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To: PhiKapMom

Oh please, go through the roof.

What is Inhofe’s planning on doing against Boxer and her blatant breaking of long established committee rules?

You may be satisfied with him being deeply disappointed, many of us believe the time for niceties and well worded press releases are over; this is a war for our country and those who do not get that deserve what they get.

Inhofe has spent years talking. Talk has got him a cookie and a cup of coffee in the Green Room at Fox. We continue to get screwed as the Dems push through their agenda whether they are in power or not.

While it’s nice to see the GOP ban together and boycott this committee vote, in the end their action was futile now wasn’t it? The Dems once again take the rules of the Senate and ignore them, and we are supposed to jump up and down and be thankful Inhofe is disappointed?

Please....

Would the Dems continue to break established rules if they knew the the GOP would use every single recourse available to them to stop it?

The Dems know the GOP will roll over as has happened for years.

Has Inhofe not been part of power sharing agreements or establishing committee rules? Does he not have enough experience in the Senate to know the very rules he helped establish mean nothing to the Dems? Boxer knows she can get away with anything and we know the GOP will let them.

I expect more from those who work for me.

Any Senator has recourse if they find another Senator breaking rules, yet all we hear is the “deeply disappointed” crap we’ve heard for years.

If you have not figured it out yet, most of us are sick and tired of business as usual. The time for talk has long passed - it’s time for action.

Let me know if Inhofe actually does anything substantive re: Boxers and others on the committee who followed her; I’ll be waiting.


44 posted on 11/05/2009 11:35:57 AM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: PhiKapMom

I saw Inhofe early this morning on FOX.

There are some folks who have personal problems when they take Inhofe and other good Republicans and lump them in with the circle of Snow & Collins group.

Too many have drank the kool aid with the all Republicans
and Democrats are all alike.


45 posted on 11/05/2009 12:46:53 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

That is for sure. I think most Conservatives understand the difference between an Inhofe, Coburn, DeMint, Sessions and others. I keep posting on here that to throw out all incumbents is wrong because I happen to really like my two Senators Inhofe and Coburn.


46 posted on 11/05/2009 1:05:39 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Only Senator Max Baucus, D-MT, voted against this moving out of committee.

Because it would kill MT coal mining industry.

47 posted on 11/05/2009 1:07:58 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: NordP

You were whining about people blaming things on California etc. People are always complaining about Florida and I’m not out there crying about it. There is a lot we can blame on Cal, imo.


48 posted on 11/05/2009 1:12:28 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: PhiKapMom; Osage Orange

I was really just refering to this particular statement Inhofe made. You’re both right of course. Sorry.


49 posted on 11/05/2009 1:13:53 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: subterfuge; Osage Orange

That’s okay — I just saw red because I know how hard the Senator has worked over the years to defeat the junk science of bills like cap and trade.

Trust me the next time any of us hear him speak, the comments about Boxer will not be near as nice as he said on Fox News.


50 posted on 11/05/2009 1:22:29 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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