Posted on 11/05/2009 6:47:58 AM PST by pabianice
Per Fox: Barbara Boxer has forced Crap and Tirade out of committee despite rule that at least two Republicans had to be present. No Repubs were there but she passed it anyway. Change you can believe in!
BIOTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rules and the rule of law does not apply to democrats. It never does. They democrats are dictators.
rules can be broken without consequence, so why not do it, unless its illegal. Whats the point of rules if only one side follows it when the other dont
Think the Senate will pass this dog now when they couldnt last summer???
Boxer is an idiot
** IMPEACH **
Throw these LAW-BREAKING bums out. 2010, here we come!!!
Hopefully when republicans take back power in DC they will share the power like they did before. end sarcasm
The Republicans not only go by the rules, they give away their power when they get it. My Friend.
that wasn’t smart... now the bill can be nullified. i’m glad she’s trying it.
more powder
So you can violate the rules because you are Demorats?
No longer do we have a government that represents the people.
Of course you can ... when there are no consequences.
I absolutely agree with you. This state of affairs will continue until the weak kneed, wobbly, faint of heart GOP gets up and gives the dems repeated bloody noses every time they break the rules. Rabid dogs don't respond to kindness.
Only reason she can get away with this is because of her killer looks.
they are above the law.
they think.
Please tell Babs that a thing called payback is really a bit#h. Worms have been known to turn.
Rules are meaningless to our enemy....but just a little over one year ago, the President WOULD NOT go ahead with recess appointments because these same Dems sent ONE PERSON a day into the Congressional Chambers.....I JUST HOPE THAT FUTURE CONGRESSIONAL HOPEFULS ARE TAKING NOTE OF HOW THE DEMOCRATS ACT WHEN THEY ARE IN POWER!!!!!!!!
I call it “Sap and Raid”.
Sap our energy production and raid our pocketbooks.
The Republicans better start making the Democrats play by the rules or refuse to play by the rules themselves. They need to announce that they will ignore rules until the Democrats start playing by them. What is sad is that their “niceness” does not even get them any points because no matter what they do, no matter how far they lean over to accomodate, they are still called “Mean” or “Meanspirited” so they might as well earn it.
Unfortunately, that's probably about the best we can hope for under the circumstances. (Sadly, no sarcasm involved.)
Rules are for the other guy. For Democrats, their only standard is ‘By any means necessary’.
Rules, laws and constitutions are worthless impediments in a liberal’s mind..........
To Boxer: Mam, you are a beeyotch.
“Mankind will in time discover that unbridled majorities are as tyrannical and cruel as unlimited despots.” – John Adams “We are watching our tyranny form in realtime. Did you see "V" Tuesday?
Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.” — James Madison
ping -— redoubling their efforts to steamroll over the American citizens, elections be damned.
There has to be 2 minority members present to vote a bill out of committee. Boxer violated this with 0 being present.
Secondly, the name of the bill is not Crap and Trade, it's Crap and Traitor.
Oh, crap that's funny! No pictures, please. This thread is worth MORE without pichers!
It all rolls downhill.
Lies.
Lawlessness.
Larceny.
Licentiousness.
Eventually, people get fed up, you know? You can only have someone spit in your face with a smile on his face—just so often—until you don’t care.
0bama, Boxer, Pelosi, Reid—want to ‘cull the herd’ to have their zombie followers as their food chain, chain being the operative word.
"Ends justify the means" vs "Rule of Law" defines a primary difference between liberals and conservatives, between democrats and republicans.
No surprise there!
Say, isn’t this why “free press” was written into the Constitution?
“So you can violate the rules because you are Demorats?”
Of course.
Breaking: Boxer says she forced the bill through because the GOP was off shopping at Brooks Brothers.
They are that stupid and will do it again IF they are ever in the majority again.
Boxer needs to be at the top of the list to visit when the torch and pitchfork brigade arrives soon.
Yup, and with the recent election results maybe pubbies will feel empowered enough to contest box of rocks actions.
You only have to fear payback from someone who has the guts to do something. The repubs don’t.
You only have to fear payback from someone who has the guts to do something. The repubs don’t.
You only have to fear payback from someone who has the guts to do something. The repubs don’t.
So what happens next? It sounds like well they just did it, so what?
Need to get Bachmann as speaker of the house.
I’ll say it once again; these Dems are willing to become political martyrs in return for making fundamental, irreversible changes to a free America. If they can ram through socialized medicine and a punishing global warming tax, redistribute as much wealth as possible to the unions, the nonproductive and their own pet causes as possible before the 2010 elections, they may be willing to be voted out with prejudice and hailed as left wing heroes for generations. If they can just screw everything up hopelessly right now, just screw it up so badly that no one can undo it, their kamikaze mission will be done. They know that they don’t have longer than another year.
this is why they are loosing votes....people see something they hate in leaders arrogance
They only needed a quorum for markup, not for voting it out of committee.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2378551/posts
American Thinker ^ | November 4, 2009 | Marc Sheppard
It seems Boxer cited a “provision in the rules” she claims allows her to proceed as long as a majority of committee members are present. Not that I don’t trust her, although I most certainly do not, but I thought a quick trip over to the EPW rules site for a look-see was in order.
Now, according to Rule 2 of the committee rules: [my emphasis]
“At committee business meetings, and for the purpose of approving the issuance of a subpoena or approving a committee resolution, one third of the members of the committee, at least two of whom are members of the minority party, constitute a quorum, except as provided in subsection (d).”
And it appears to be the language of subsection (d) that Boxer is attempting to play games with:
“No measure or matter may be reported to the Senate by the committee unless a majority of committee members cast votes in person.”
From a layman’s reading, one would surmise that although the bill can be reported out of committee with a simple majority, at least 2 Republicans need be present to consider any amendments. In which case, Boxer’s decision to continue markup sessions without minority representation would be as illegal as it is unprecedented.
Interestingly enough, Boxer’s deployment of the “nuclear option,” as many Republicans are referring to it, didn’t seem to bother Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina — the first Republican to endorse the bill. He and Senators Lieberman and Kerry just finished discussing the Bill before cameras, yet Graham said nothing about the Democrats’ impropriety. As it was, after all, his inexplicable turncoat actions that enabled Democrats and the MSM to stamp the now meaningless label “bi-partisan” on this disastrous legislation, surely something should have been said about this breach in EPW rules.
Prior to gaveling out for today’s lunchtime recess, Boxer repeated numerous times that she intended to abide by the rules.
The question is: Whose rules – those of the committee or those of the climate-hysterics currently controlling it?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2378551/posts
American Thinker ^ | November 4, 2009 | Marc Sheppard
It seems Boxer cited a “provision in the rules” she claims allows her to proceed as long as a majority of committee members are present. Not that I don’t trust her, although I most certainly do not, but I thought a quick trip over to the EPW rules site for a look-see was in order.
Now, according to Rule 2 of the committee rules: [my emphasis]
“At committee business meetings, and for the purpose of approving the issuance of a subpoena or approving a committee resolution, one third of the members of the committee, at least two of whom are members of the minority party, constitute a quorum, except as provided in subsection (d).”
And it appears to be the language of subsection (d) that Boxer is attempting to play games with:
“No measure or matter may be reported to the Senate by the committee unless a majority of committee members cast votes in person.”
From a layman’s reading, one would surmise that although the bill can be reported out of committee with a simple majority, at least 2 Republicans need be present to consider any amendments. In which case, Boxer’s decision to continue markup sessions without minority representation would be as illegal as it is unprecedented.
Interestingly enough, Boxer’s deployment of the “nuclear option,” as many Republicans are referring to it, didn’t seem to bother Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina — the first Republican to endorse the bill. He and Senators Lieberman and Kerry just finished discussing the Bill before cameras, yet Graham said nothing about the Democrats’ impropriety. As it was, after all, his inexplicable turncoat actions that enabled Democrats and the MSM to stamp the now meaningless label “bi-partisan” on this disastrous legislation, surely something should have been said about this breach in EPW rules.
Prior to gaveling out for today’s lunchtime recess, Boxer repeated numerous times that she intended to abide by the rules.
The question is: Whose rules – those of the committee or those of the climate-hysterics currently controlling it?
I don't see how it can get past a court challenge.
I don't think Boxer is that stupid. Instead I think the dems have wakened and are trying to get rid of this disaster.
They're relying on the Repubs to quash it. They'll avoid the blame for the economic chaos resulting, earn credit for their efforts, and label the Republicans as enemies of the environment.
Pretty good strategy, at least the best anyone in their position could come up with. Will it work?
tossing them out next year won’t matter. the dems are playing ‘all-in’ and want their massive agendas passed while they have the power ... at all costs. they don’t care if they lose seats, they figure they’ll get them back
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