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House vote possible trigger for a reversal in stock market
newsvine ^ | 04 November 2009 | insightnews

Posted on 11/04/2009 6:19:38 PM PST by underthestreetlite

U.S. stocks erased most of a 156- point rally in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after a House bill to curb credit-card rates spurred concern about bank earnings, outweighing the Federal Reserve's plan to keep interest rates at a record low.

Wells Fargo & Co., JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Citigroup Inc. led financial shares to the steepest loss among 10 industries as the vote moved up the start date of many rule changes that will make it more difficult for lenders to raise rates on existing credit cards. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index wiped out most of a 1.5 percent rally triggered when the Fed said it will leave interest rates at "exceptionally low" levels.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: card; credit; interest; rate

1 posted on 11/04/2009 6:19:39 PM PST by underthestreetlite
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To: underthestreetlite
Credit card rates should be X percentage above prime, other wise the fed discount window should charge banks flexible rates for borrowing. The higher a bank is leveraged, the more it cost to borrow.
2 posted on 11/04/2009 6:31:16 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: underthestreetlite

How in the world does anyone expect to keep interest rates near zero and inflation near zero with something like $50 trillion in total debt?


3 posted on 11/04/2009 6:41:26 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Why buy health insurance at all if you can't be turned down for any pre-existing conditions?)
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To: org.whodat

The credit card industry is the most abusive industry out there. They are loan sharks using bait and switch tactcs. Street hookers and drug pushers have more honor than credit card companies. They get no sympathy from me.

/Just saying how I really feel.


4 posted on 11/04/2009 6:41:44 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: underthestreetlite

“outweighing the Federal Reserve”

Sounds like a pack of loan sharks trying to protect their turf. Rab isn’t buying,,, (on credit).


5 posted on 11/04/2009 6:43:06 PM PST by Rabin
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To: org.whodat

“Credit card rates should be X percentage above prime, “

Says who? And why?
How should the lenders allocate their risks and costs to extend the credit card line of credit?
Should a borrower with a 680 credit score pay the same rate as a 830 credit score borrower?


6 posted on 11/04/2009 6:45:52 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Should a bank leveraged 400 to one get the same fed rate as a bank leverage 6 to one.
7 posted on 11/04/2009 6:47:59 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: DannyTN

“The credit card industry is the most abusive industry out there.”
Maybe so, but extending credit to people is a very risk business to be in.
I do think some of the card companies do things in a way to confuse the customer and make extra fee income.
But they need to make a lot of money to cover the losses of those who don’t pay their bills.

If they can’t make money; the credit won’t be there.


8 posted on 11/04/2009 6:49:56 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

If a bank extends the credit line of a 680 are lower card, he deserves to lose.


9 posted on 11/04/2009 6:49:59 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: org.whodat

Game, set, match.


10 posted on 11/04/2009 6:50:36 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: DannyTN

the market is ripe for a credit card that charges a fair rate. It would be very popular. What do you wanna bet that the reason a more reasonable competitor isn’t out there... has something to do with government regulation.

I actually buy everything on my Mastercard... gas, groceries, clothes, everything... but I sign online every week and pay the balance in full. I never pay any interest. But I do rack up those points and rebates. It works fine for me, and I don’t actually care what the interest rate is.


11 posted on 11/04/2009 6:51:51 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: DannyTN
You are correct!!!

I ran into a young man, 20, a few years ago and ask him why he was working where he was. He said that he was in school and got drunk a few times and went on vacation with a nice piece and put it on his CC, a year are so down the road he had 12,000 in credit card bills and had to leave school to make money to pay his bills. This was a young man that should have known better, but the damn banker that was extending the credit should have know better first.

12 posted on 11/04/2009 6:55:16 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: DannyTN

Glad to see some sense on this subject. Way too many here on FR defend the vampire credit card companies and their tactics.


13 posted on 11/04/2009 7:09:50 PM PST by packrat35 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.- M Thatcher)
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To: underthestreetlite

Its still a little early yet, but futures showing more red than usual.

http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/stocks/futures.html


14 posted on 11/04/2009 9:22:10 PM PST by Mister Muggles (Seattle: a city full of liberal men with vaginas.)
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