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‘Men-only club’ announcement called mistake, retracted
Boston Herald ^ | November 4, 2009 | Donna Goodison

Posted on 11/04/2009 3:36:40 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

Imagine launching a new restaurant and incurring the scrutiny of the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Organization for Women before it even opens.

That’s what happened to the owners of Stoddard’s Fine Food & Ale, a “gastropub” opening this month in Downtown Crossing.

Controversy erupted after Stoddard’s sent out a press release last month about its opening that included news of a private, membership-based “gentlemen-only Friday Club” on its lower level.

After the plans came under criticism for excluding women - and possibly violating a state law that prohibits discrimination in public places - Stoddard’s “clarified” its policy 12 days later. In a new statement last Wednesday, partner William Ashmore stressed the club would be “members only,” and women are free to join.

Ashmore told the Herald there was never any plan to exclude women, and that publicist Chris Lyons misconstrued the owners’ intentions. But, he said, “I’m going to take the blame for it simply because . . . many things were occurring at once, and I didn’t have enough focus on (the release).”

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: boston; now; restaurant
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1 posted on 11/04/2009 3:36:41 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

But things exclusively for women, blacks, Asians, Latinos, gays and Muslim are A-OK.


2 posted on 11/04/2009 3:38:16 PM PST by wac3rd (Felipe Calderon supports the public option.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

So much for freedom of association.

Let the ugly feminazis in and freeze them out once they are there. To date, they have not been able to legislate whether I do or don’t talk to someone.


3 posted on 11/04/2009 3:39:12 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Al Bundy’s “No Ma’am” shirts would be big sellers.


4 posted on 11/04/2009 3:39:47 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama lies, Freedom dies)
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To: ConservativeStatement
He should have stood his ground. I don't care if there are “men only” clubs. I don't care if there are “women only” clubs. I personally wouldn't want to be a member of either one.
5 posted on 11/04/2009 3:39:52 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Huh? I thought a private business was not a public place. Why do all restaurants have those signs “we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone” then?


6 posted on 11/04/2009 3:40:48 PM PST by GauchoUSA
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To: wac3rd

How many men are in NOW? Answer? All of them. :-)


7 posted on 11/04/2009 3:41:16 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama lies, Freedom dies)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Mark my words soon the ACLU will try and sue to allow transgenders and post-op gender benders to be allowed to be Nuns


8 posted on 11/04/2009 3:41:42 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: wac3rd

Yep. Haven’t you heard; White, heterosexual males are the new n1gg3rs.


9 posted on 11/04/2009 3:42:11 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: trisham
He should have stood his ground.

He would have been chewed up and spat out in a second. Massachusetts has some of the strictest laws in the country in these matters. Special "Ladies' NIghts" discounts have been struck down. One place tried to get around it by having a "dresses and skirts" night, providing the same discount to gents who showed up in said gear as well. Even THAT was considered to be a violation. No, you have to follow the rules, or move.
10 posted on 11/04/2009 3:43:21 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

You’re right, but I would have had some respect for him if he had. :)


11 posted on 11/04/2009 3:44:51 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Hmm. Now I’m curious... Is it really discrimination and/or against the law to have a members only, mens club? I wouldn’t care if anybody wanted to start their own members only whatever club, but that’s just me.


12 posted on 11/04/2009 3:45:08 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: freedumb2003

“So much for freedom of association.

Let the ugly feminazis in and freeze them out once they are there. To date, they have not been able to legislate whether I do or don’t talk to someone.”

Yeah, well that’s comin’


13 posted on 11/04/2009 3:45:22 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Nothing more than very clever PR. National news for a restaurant opening, designed to attract a preferred clientele.


14 posted on 11/04/2009 3:45:42 PM PST by Beelzebubba (Why not "interpret" your tax returns like the Supreme Court "interprets" the Constitution?)
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To: scripter

This is Massachusetts. Think about it.


15 posted on 11/04/2009 3:47:24 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

16 posted on 11/04/2009 3:52:27 PM PST by muleskinner ("You know the Germans always make good stuff')
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To: trisham
This is Massachusetts. Think about it.

Indeed. Still...

17 posted on 11/04/2009 3:52:36 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: ConservativeStatement

This is supposedly illegal, but Curves is OK?


18 posted on 11/04/2009 3:53:36 PM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: freedumb2003

“Let the ugly feminazis in and freeze them out once they are there. To date, they have not been able to legislate whether I do or don’t talk to someone.”

They will only be interested in the other women anyway...


19 posted on 11/04/2009 3:54:26 PM PST by jessduntno (TOTUS fails and POtuS becomes a phuttering stuck.)
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To: jessduntno
“Let the ugly feminazis in and freeze them out once they are there. To date, they have not been able to legislate whether I do or don’t talk to someone.”

They will only be interested in the other women anyway...
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Seriously besides tough sports, etc., why on earth would any straight man want to be part of a MAN ONLY club??

Me thinks they are into men only...This is fine, but I think there are already “gay clubs” around.

20 posted on 11/04/2009 4:01:32 PM PST by purpleporter
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To: purpleporter

My husband is a member of a few men’s-only clubs. He goes there for lunch and plays cards with his buddies. It’s basically a place where they can cuss and drink and smoke and tell dirty jokes. If the decor is any indication, there isn’t a gay man in the group.


21 posted on 11/04/2009 4:16:04 PM PST by Melpomene (Proud member of the Who Dat nation.)
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To: Melpomene

This makes sense, but the place described above seems like a “restaurant” type atmosphere and to exclude women just seems bizarre unless they are, well you know...


22 posted on 11/04/2009 4:21:54 PM PST by purpleporter
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To: purpleporter
restaurant type of atmoshphere
23 posted on 11/04/2009 4:23:11 PM PST by purpleporter
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To: purpleporter

You’re not married, are you? If you are, it cannot have been for very long.

Believe it or not, no matter how much a man loves his wife and children, there are times when men-heterosexual men- want to be where they can be men, among men, without having female voices and expectations intrude into their contemplations.

Where they can do the “base” things that all men, but only men, occasionally do without being frowned upon by women. Where they can put their feet up on the coffee table, or scratch their butt without some female taking offense.

Your comment about “gay clubs” wouldn’t win you many friends in elite armed forces units, either, FRiend.

Freedom of association for everyone indeed, unless you’re male, or white, or straight, or any combination of the above.


24 posted on 11/04/2009 4:30:15 PM PST by Don W (I will praise Him.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

No such thing as bad publicity......


25 posted on 11/04/2009 4:44:04 PM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: Don W

Wow. My husband uses the lampshades as hat racks, props his feet up, and scratches whenever and wherever it itches. I’ve never taken offense! Although I have harbored a secret wish *at times* that he would show me, the love of his life, the same respect he shows others, in that regard (lol).

That being said, I really don’t care if people have men/women only nights or clubs or whatever. A local fire dept. has an annual oyster night in the truck bay. A few years ago, a woman insisted upon attending and she did. I cannot imagine why she felt she had to be there or why she would want to be. Don’t cramp the guys’ style lady! I just thought it was rather stupid of her to insist on her right to attend, just to prove that she could. As far as I know, she never went again (nor have any others.)


26 posted on 11/04/2009 4:49:53 PM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Okay...okay......it said “gentlemen-only”.......if I do recall, in the old days....”gentlemen” were refined men, not “pimps, or gangstas” ...or should I say...or put it this way.....Don’t come to the club as a “Wal mart shopper” This did not mean to exclude “Ladies” and I do mean “Ladies” and not “bitches, sluts and HOs”

Get what I am saying?????


27 posted on 11/04/2009 4:58:23 PM PST by Morgana (Obama's new slogan: "Hope and Change.......just hold your breath")
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To: ConservativeStatement

“After the plans came under criticism for excluding women - and possibly violating a state law that prohibits discrimination in public places...”

If they meet on private property, it shouldn’t even matter if it’s normally a public place. Once you exclude the public, it becomes a private place. Surely men-only clubs aren’t banned by law since there are women-only Curves Health Clubs all over Massachusetts. THAT would be gender discrimination.


28 posted on 11/04/2009 5:12:25 PM PST by Fetid Facts
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To: ConservativeStatement

Great strategy! The surest way to get a woman to do anything is to imply they’re not allowed. Now women will come from far and wide to hang out in the “Gentleman Only” section while they all ask each other what was so special about it.


29 posted on 11/04/2009 6:07:46 PM PST by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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To: ConservativeStatement
...partner William Ashmore...

He wouldn't be related to the famed porn star Buster Ashmore, would he?

30 posted on 11/04/2009 6:09:21 PM PST by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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