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Obama's brother emerges in China with novel
Reuters ^ | November 4, 2009 | By James Pomfret

Posted on 11/04/2009 6:10:45 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

GUANGZHOU, China, Nov 4 (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama's half-brother made a rare appearance on Wednesday in southern China, his home for seven years, to launch a novel he says draws on his painful childhood under an abusive father.

Mark Okoth Obama Ndesandjo -- who had the same, late, father as the U.S. President -- has kept a low public profile since reports surfaced last year that he was living and working in the southern Chinese capitalist and manufacturing haven of Shenzhen, around an hour's train ride from Hong Kong.

After repeatedly shunning media attention, Ndesandjo's first major public appearance to launch his debut novel comes less than two weeks before the U.S. president travels to China for the first time.

While he said his work, "Nairobi to Shenzhen" is a fictional account, it started off nearly 10 years ago as an autobiography and "reflects many experiences in my own life as a child brought up in Kenya" including a troubled relationship with his father.

"My mother used to say of my father, he's a brilliant man but a social failure," Ndesandjo told reporters at a press conference in Guangzhou, near his adopted city of Shenzhen.

"I remember times in my house when I would hear screams and I would hear my mother's pain." His American mother Ruth was his father's third wife.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: failure

1 posted on 11/04/2009 6:10:46 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Talk about a weird family. How many half and quarter brothers does this moron have????????????????????


2 posted on 11/04/2009 6:13:19 AM PST by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And again, the co-author gets no credit!

3 posted on 11/04/2009 6:13:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Too bad the Founders couldn’t see a godless nation looming in the future. Otherwise, they could have stipulated that no exotic species should be allowed to hold the office of President of the USA.


4 posted on 11/04/2009 6:17:09 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Chinese capitalist and manufacturing haven of Shenzhen, around an hour's train ride from Hong Kong.

Someone doesn't know his Geography very well. Even DOWNTOWN Honk Kong isn't an hour from Shenzhen. I'll even go as far as say even the Hong Kong Airport isn't an hour from Shenzhen.

5 posted on 11/04/2009 6:21:46 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What a gnarled family tree.


6 posted on 11/04/2009 6:24:37 AM PST by mancini
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To: Doc Savage

I try to imagine the future “Book of U.S. Presidents”. There’ll be the bios of Washington, Adams, Polk, Truman, Reagan, even Clintoon....

And then there’ll be this assclown and his international troupe of circus performers.


7 posted on 11/04/2009 6:24:37 AM PST by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: workerbee

“he’s a brilliant man but a social failure”.
Well we see that the failure gene got passed on to Barry.


8 posted on 11/04/2009 6:27:58 AM PST by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messiah. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"I remember times in my house when I would hear screams and I would hear my mother's pain."

Can you say,"Mandingo"?/sarc?

9 posted on 11/04/2009 6:33:47 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He’s in CHINA??? Go figure.


10 posted on 11/04/2009 6:40:56 AM PST by NordP (Democrats: Break the Law (like Bill) ... Not The Rules (like Joe) !!!)
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To: kittymyrib
"Too bad the Founders couldn’t see a godless nation looming in the future."

They did, and they cautioned against it; however, they knew that was simply one of the risks of liberty:

" Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

""[T]he only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be aid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments. Without religion, I believe that learning does real mischief to the morals and principles of mankind." - Benjamin Rush

"Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society." - George Washington

"[O]nly a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin

11 posted on 11/04/2009 6:49:33 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: NordP

He’s in China teaching English with a lot of other Americans.China has mandated that the entire next generation
speak English.


12 posted on 11/04/2009 6:52:29 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Dr. Ursus
Still seems conVENient that it's China.

and...good for China...I wish our OWN country would get that clue.

13 posted on 11/04/2009 7:01:45 AM PST by NordP (Democrats: Break the Law (like Bill) ... Not The Rules (like Joe) !!!)
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To: Malsua
Someone doesn't know his Geography very well. Even DOWNTOWN Honk Kong isn't an hour from Shenzhen. I'll even go as far as say even the Hong Kong Airport isn't an hour from Shenzhen.

On the Hong Kong MTR, the direct ride from Hung Hom station in Kowloon to Lok Ma Chau station, adjacent to Shenzhen Metro's Futiankouan Station, takes 44 minutes.

14 posted on 11/04/2009 7:13:55 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: kittymyrib

They did. That is why they put Article II, Section 1, clause 5 in the constitution, that insisted a POTUS be a “natural born citizen.” The fact that this present generation refuses to enforce that provision is no reflection on their genius or the magnificent document that they created.


15 posted on 11/04/2009 11:10:33 AM PST by DMZFrank
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Type his full name, Mark Okoth Obama Ndesandjo, into google images, without quotation marks, and some pictures of him come up. I didn’t know if I should link to it here.


16 posted on 11/04/2009 6:55:27 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (The Libs play dirty because the Libs ARE dirty.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have read several articles on this. There are supposed details of their father in Obama’s brothers book. Obama calls his dad a troubled alhoholic. So why did Obama write a book about him?


17 posted on 11/18/2009 9:59:13 PM PST by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wait a minute in his open media reported bios he only had a half sister, right? Was there a brother in a poor hut in Africa? I am confused.


18 posted on 11/18/2009 10:03:58 PM PST by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

19 posted on 11/18/2009 10:11:37 PM PST by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: 444Flyer; sushiman; Nachum

ping


20 posted on 11/18/2009 10:16:00 PM PST by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Real Profile of Mark Ndesandjo

http://blog.chinationreport.com/?p=403


21 posted on 11/18/2009 11:11:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Njesandjo's mama, Ruth.


African Family
In this Obama Family photo are: (bottom row, from left) half-sister Auma, her mother Kezia Obama, Obama's step-grandmother Sarah Hussein Onyango Obama, a devout Muslim and unknown; (top row, from left) unknown, Barack Obama, half-brother Abongo (Roy) Obama, .....
Obama's older brother still lives there. Abongo "Roy" Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture." He urges his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.

22 posted on 11/18/2009 11:51:27 PM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1. Afghanistan Updates Daily on My Profile)
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To: Fred Nerks
Mark’s friends know that he moved to the US after spending the first seven years of his life in Kenya. He graduated from Brown University with a mathematics and arts degree. Then, he attended Stanford University in Palo Alto, California for a Physics degree. After that, he received an MBA degree from Emory University.

wonder who took care of that "bill".

23 posted on 11/19/2009 12:02:37 AM PST by OBXWanderer
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To: mancini

They’re creepy and the kooky, mysterious McSpooky. They’re altogether ooky, the Obama family.


24 posted on 11/19/2009 2:47:16 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: Eleutheria5

lol!!!


25 posted on 11/19/2009 6:25:19 AM PST by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
""My mother used to say of my father, he's a brilliant man but a social failure," Ndesandjo told reporters at a press conference in Guangzhou, near his adopted city of Shenzhen.

How come we never heard about this in the 2008 campaign from the investigative reporters? Oh, that's right, they were all in Wasilla.

26 posted on 11/19/2009 6:26:54 AM PST by cookcounty ("O-bama, O-bama, Ya ba Ouna, Ya ba Ma !!")
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To: Fred Nerks
Interesting. Mark and his mother appear to be the only branch of the dysfunctional family tree with any real-life legitimate business experience: he as an owner of a BBQ chain, and she as the owner of a day-care center.

He's also bravely overcome his aversion to the spotlight to sell a book.

27 posted on 11/19/2009 7:19:40 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: MestaMachine

If Obama said he tries not to think of his alcoholic father in this interview

http://thepage.time.com/transcript-obama-cnn-interview-in-china/

Why did he write a book about him?

I wonder if Obama’s brothers book says where Obama was born?


28 posted on 11/19/2009 7:35:25 AM PST by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“Why did he write a book about him?”

To make himself appear more authentic to black people and more exotic to white freaking liberals. I keep saying the POS is a hologram and if you try to actually touch him, (which I wouldn’t with someone else’s 10 foot pole,) your hand would go right through him.
barry hussein obama is an illusion, a mythical figure made up from whole cloth.


29 posted on 11/19/2009 8:07:53 AM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1. Afghanistan Updates Daily on My Profile)
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To: browardchad
He's also bravely overcome his aversion to the spotlight to sell a book.

Seems to me he wants to set the record straight in relation to the character of his father. He appears to make it quite clear how much he was traumatised as a child by his violence.

Brother Joseph, is the son of Ruth and the Tanzanian gentleman (I think this is him):

LINK

Joseph married in the US. Video:

link

30 posted on 11/19/2009 12:49:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
Brother Joseph, is the son of Ruth and the Tanzanian gentleman (I think this is him):

LINK

I don't think so, Fred. The younger brother was portrayed as a small child in "Dreams," when The One visited Ruth in Kenya in 1988.

The CV you linked to shows this "Athanasius Ndesanjo Mphuru" receving an MA in West Virginia in 1968.

That would place him as at least 20 years older than Mark, who was born about 1964.

It could be the father-- who knows? Mark doesn't seem very interested in his step-father, who likely funded his expensive education. That sort of reminds me of someone else in the family, who conveniently forgets their stepfather...

31 posted on 11/19/2009 1:13:08 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad

“... The younger brother was portrayed as a small child in “Dreams,” when The One visited Ruth in Kenya in 1988.”

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/familytree/545444,BSX-News-wotreebb09.stng

“...David Obama was Barack Obama’s other half-brother from the marriage of their father and an American woman named Ruth.
David Obama was killed in a motorcycle accident before Barack Obama’s 1987 visit to Kenya...”


Nothing ever adds up, does it? Zero’s first visit to Kenya was in 1983...and even then, David would not have been a ‘small child.”

http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html

A Sunday Nation team that set out to trace Obama’s roots was surprised to find that, unknown to many, Obama has actually been to this village twice. First in 1983, when he had come to mourn his late father, Barack Hussein Obama, who had died in Nairobi in 1982...


I didn’t keep a link, but Auma, his half-sister tells the story that Obama could not make claims on the estate of his ‘father’ because only Mark had the documents to prove WHO HIS FATHER WAS.


32 posted on 11/19/2009 1:38:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: browardchad

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2353627/posts?page=229#229

there is also apparently a reference to the estate of senior in ‘Dreams’


33 posted on 11/19/2009 2:12:22 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: browardchad

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2353627/posts?page=259#259

haven’t found the link to the statement by Auma, but there’s a reference to that in the above comment.


34 posted on 11/19/2009 2:23:45 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
Nothing ever adds up, does it? Zero’s first visit to Kenya was in 1983...and even then, David would not have been a ‘small child.”

Ruth had two sons by Obama: Mark and David. David was born ca 1967 and died in a motorcycle accident ca 1984.

Ruth had a third son, Joseph, by her second husband, Ndesandjo. He was portrayed as a small child in 1988 in "Dreams," so was born about 1983-84.

Obama's first trip to Kenya was in 1988, the summer before he entered Harvard. That's the trip described in the book.

He later said he'd taken his fiancee, Michelle to meet his relatives in Kenya, so that trip took place around 1992. He made a third trip to Kenya in 2006 as a US Senator.

In 1983, Obama was working for Business International Corp. in NYC, as a copy editor. That's been independently verified by former employees of BI. He didn't travel to Kenya that year.

35 posted on 11/19/2009 9:57:37 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad; LucyT
A Sunday Nation team that set out to trace Obama's roots was surprised to find that, unknown to many, Obama has actually been to this village twice. First in 1983, when he had come to mourn his late father, Barack Hussein Obama, who had died in Nairobi in 1982; and again in 1995 when he brought home his young bride to show her his roots.

SOURCE

You can quote 'Dreams' to me all day long, but I don't have to swallow it hook line and sinker.

Do you really believe he would wait so many years to show up and try to claim what-ever it was he expected to be able to claim from the estate of Barack Hussein Obama?

It has been made very clear by a number of sources, including Auma, that Mark was the only one who had documents that PROVED HIS RIGHT TO CLAIM THE ESTATE OF HIS FATHER.

Senior died in 1982. Are you expecting me to believe they waited until 1988 to present themselves in an attempt to claim the estate?

That was also the year, 1983, that Stanley Ann was in Kenya. That's why Kezia was able to say 'when we met, she was like a sister to me...'

Take it or leave it. If you need to follow 'Dreams' to the letter, be my guest. You keep doing this...wasting my time and yours. I supplied the link, did you read it?

BTW, when zero traveled to Kenya in 1983, DAVID WOULD HAVE BEEN A SMALL CHILD.

36 posted on 11/19/2009 10:13:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
haven’t found the link to the statement by Auma, but there’s a reference to that in the above comment.

Dreams, Page 345 (Auma speaking):

“I was just thinking about how life is so strange. You know, as soon as the Old Man died, the lawyers contacted all those who might have a claim to the inheritance. Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark’s father was. So of all of the Old Man’s kids, Mark’s claim is the only one that’s uncontested.”

I doubt there was much of an estate to lay claim to, aside from the land.

I also doubt Mark had much need of Obama's estate. Ndesandjo was apparently a successful business man, and Ruth's American family is described as wealthy.

37 posted on 11/19/2009 10:16:56 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad

He probably had only one thing of value. Documents and letters. I’m glad it’s Mark who has them.


38 posted on 11/19/2009 10:19:03 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
Dreams, for all its faults, is a better source than the African press. Their dates are, and always have been, all over the place, on every biographical event.

Believe what you want -- there's certainly a wide selection, depending on whatever myth they pull out of a hat. It will definitely lead, as you've said, to "nothing making sense."

39 posted on 11/19/2009 10:21:36 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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. . . . Check out #36.

Thanks, Fred Nerks. Somehow, I had missed this entire thread...

40 posted on 11/19/2009 10:27:13 PM PST by LucyT
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To: browardchad
Deams is a propaganda document designed to create an innocuous image of an electable candidate who is unqualified to run for the office of president of the United States.

It is full of half truths and imagery designed to cover Obama's factual history, which is why Obama has sealed or cauterized much of his hostory, at Occidental, and i t is also one of the reason Obama has spent 2 million bucks or mpore defending eal actions designed to obtain court procedural orders to release Obama's Hawaiian COLB.

At this point, anyone who thinks otherwise is ill informed, or cannot face reality as it is dueto hopeful attachment to the romanticized idea that Obama is America's first black president. He is, in fact, nothing of the sort. He is a foreignor who has traduced our nation, and his daily conduct and policy decisions prove that fact.

41 posted on 11/20/2009 12:49:03 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Candor7
Deams is a propaganda document designed to create an innocuous image of an electable candidate who is unqualified to run for the office of president of the United States.

Of course it is, but it is the source of the image and the mania. In order to debunk it, you have to read it, something 99% of those posting on these threads haven't done. They shrink from it as if it were some evil talisman that will somehow poison their minds, yet they quote continuously from it by cutting and pasting out-of-context excerpts found online, or news stories that simply parrot and embellish on the book.

Anyone that says they've done research on Obama, but hasn't read the book, is intellectually dishonest.

Jack Cashill has done some great work proving that Obama couldn't have written the book, and in the process, debunked some of the story itself. Could he have done that without reading it? And if he had, would you consider his work to have any credibility?

42 posted on 11/20/2009 9:18:35 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad

I have read parts of the book while shopping in Wal Mart.

Sorry, I won’t buy it.

Its a riot that America has elected a romantic notion, which I knew he was 6 months before he declared his candidacy.

Now our whole nation pays the price.

I agree about what you say about those who hold out that they research Obama.

But I did not need to do research to reach my conclusions about Obama. I had seen him before, when I lived in Canada. Then his name was Pierre Elliot Trudeau, a nationalist socialist, romantic notion that almost destroyed Canada.


43 posted on 11/20/2009 9:26:03 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Candor7
Here's some blatant media idiocy from the media and a lie from Obama, on the subject of his half-brother Mark Ndesandjo:

Page 341-344 of Dreams from My Father describes a meeting of Obama and his father's third wife, Ruth, and her son Mark Ndesandjo (then a single student) at the home of Ruth and her second husband, in Nairobi, Kenya, as well as a subsequent lunch meeting of Obama and Mark alone in the summer of 1988.

A photo published in the UK DailyMail shows Mark Ndesandjo in an African family group shop with Obama at the White House on Inauguration Day, November 20, 2009.

An article in the UK Telegraph, dated November 13, 2009, titled "Obama to meet half-brother on China visit," begins as follows:

US President Barack Obama hopes to meet his half-brother Mark Ndesandjo and his sister-in-law during his first official visit to China.

Ndesandjo and his Chinese wife live in Shenzhen - a southern city neighbouring Hong Kong - and plan to fly to Beijing to meet his famous relative.

"It will be the first time for Mark to introduce his wife to President Obama," a spokeswoman for AmCham in South China said.

Ndesandjo told China's state-run Xinhua news agency that he wanted his wife, who is from the central eastern province of Henan, to meet the US president as "she is one of Obama's loyal fans".

An interview with Obama in China by CNN's Ed Henry, on November 18, 2009, begins with the following exchange:

EH: "I was at your town hall in Shanghai, and you joked about how an Obama family gathering would be like the United Nations with all the different backgrounds. So you have a half-brother who lives here in China. Have you had a chance to meet with him during this trip, and what do you make of his book where he says that the father you share used him?

BHO: "Well, you know, I don't know him well. I met him for the first time a couple of  years ago. He stopped by with his wife for about five minutes during a trip. I haven't read the book. But it's no secret that my father was a troubled person. Everybody'd who's read my first book, "Dreams from My Father," knows that he had an alcoholism problem, that he didn't treat his families very well, and, uh, so, obviously, it's a sad part of my history and my background, but it's not something that I don't spend a lot of time going over."

Obama never answered the question of whether he met with Mark in China, of course, and Henry didn't bother re-asking. And why the lie about meeting Mark? Did he or Ayers make up the meetings and the conversations in the book?  Is Mark lying about his wife never having met Obama? Is Obama brain-damaged or strung out on some drug? Did the Chinese government have some objection to Mark? Stay tuned indefintely, because the media will never answer it.

44 posted on 11/21/2009 1:44:43 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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