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Top Dems: Obama Won't Get Health Care Bill in 2009 (Conservatives won a lot on Election Day)
abcnews ^ | November 04, 2009 | By JONATHAN KARL

Posted on 11/03/2009 11:23:47 PM PST by Sun

Democrats say reform before end of year is highly unlikely.

Senior Congressional Democrats told ABC News today it is highly unlikely that a health care reform bill will be completed this year, just a week after President Barack Obama declared he was "absolutely confident" he'll be able to sign one by then.

"Getting this done by the by the end of the year is a no-go," a senior Democratic leadership aide told ABC News. Two other key Congressional Democrats also told ABC News the same thing.

This may come as an unwelcome surprise for the White House, where officials from the president on down have repeatedly said the health care bill would be signed into law by the end of the year.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bachmann; bhohealthcare; congressdemocrats; dead; democrats; elections2009; healthcare; michelebachmann; michelebackmann; obama; obamacare; teaparty; whitehouse
I think Rep. Michele Backmann's upcoming rally this Thursday, and the Dems knowing they would lose some important elections, were a couple of the main reasons that the "health" bill will be delayed.

From Drudge:

"REPUBLICAN TAKES VA BY 18%...

REPUBLICAN TAKES NJ BY 5%..."

More wins for conservatives. What a great Election Day.

1 posted on 11/03/2009 11:23:48 PM PST by Sun
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To: Sun
Democrats say reform before end of year is highly unlikely.

It wasn't "reform" anyway!

[My mother told me never to speak badly of the dead. Shes dead....Good. Bette Davis/Joan Crawford]

2 posted on 11/03/2009 11:28:28 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: Sun

We can safely say that Health care “reform”is a dead stick.


3 posted on 11/03/2009 11:31:41 PM PST by sonofstrangelove ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: This_far

look’s like public option is dead if any moderate/blue dog dems want to win next year..


4 posted on 11/03/2009 11:32:24 PM PST by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: Sun
"Getting this done by the by the end of the year is a no-go," a senior Democratic leadership aide told ABC News. Two other key Congressional Democrats also told ABC News the same thing.

You're not going to get it done in 2010 an election year either. The Rats throwing in the towel?

5 posted on 11/03/2009 11:33:47 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Sun

Beware! This ain’t over yet. The Dems could put death care on the back burner for a while; then push it through when we aren’t looking.

What’s the Yogi Berra saying??? The game’s not over until it’s over.


6 posted on 11/03/2009 11:35:49 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Red Steel

“The Rats throwing in the towel?”

At least temporarily, but let’s not let our guard down.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 11:37:54 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

this illustrate that there are alot of DEMS who are more concerned about their own jobs then doing the right thing for their ideology. The worst type of politicans imho. We have them on the GOP side as well. Self serving individuals


8 posted on 11/03/2009 11:38:55 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: fatnotlazy

“Beware! This ain’t over yet. The Dems could put death care on the back burner for a while; then push it through when we aren’t looking.”

I agree, but it shows what we conservatives can do if we keep on fighting, so let’s KEEP ON FIGHTING.


9 posted on 11/03/2009 11:39:49 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: 4rcane

Yup, we need to get rid of self-serving and liberal Dems AND Republicans.


10 posted on 11/03/2009 11:41:17 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Does this mean I won’t get my end-of-life counseling now?

Oh, damn!


11 posted on 11/03/2009 11:45:04 PM PST by kevao (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: All

Just want to add: Tuesday was a great day for conservatism, including social conservatism. Maine repealed gay marriage.

If Hoffman won, it would have been perfect, but he’ll probably win next year, and on this Election Day we won a LOT! I’m so happy, I can’t sleep.


12 posted on 11/03/2009 11:49:04 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: kevao

“Does this mean I won’t get my end-of-life counseling now?”

For the time being, but we need to keep fighting. The devil always comes back.


13 posted on 11/03/2009 11:50:25 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Schwaeky
look’s like public option is dead if any moderate/blue dog dems want to win next year..

I HOPE that the whole damn bill is dead... (now they are saying it might be pushed back AGAIN -- how many times will that make the delay, four, more?)

Per my sig, this is NOT about health care (or insurance), it's about someone being able to lay claim to health care, with their name attached to it. Their LEGACY, paid for by us. PERIOD

14 posted on 11/03/2009 11:53:41 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: Sun
Waterloo for Socialized Medicine was indeed August.

yitbos

15 posted on 11/03/2009 11:55:45 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: Red Steel

I was going to say as well..they aint getting it in 2010 either, so they can just FORGET IT.

Interestingly, I went to see an eye doc in Canada once. He told me to google the problem myself. What a guy.


16 posted on 11/04/2009 12:02:27 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: All

I think Michele Bachmann’s upcoming rally has a lot to do with this, as well as the Dems seeing how badly they were doing in the polls.

From Rush, on Michele’s rally:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110209/content/01125114.guest.html


17 posted on 11/04/2009 12:03:02 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

It’s already bad for the Dems in this election WITHOUT passage of Obamacare. Imagine the outright crushing blow to Dems in 2010 if Obamacare were to pass.


18 posted on 11/04/2009 12:09:30 AM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: Sun
"Getting this done by the by the end of the year is a no-go," a senior Democratic leadership aide told ABC News.

It's dead Jim.


19 posted on 11/04/2009 12:11:53 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan
After Tuesday, the Blue Dogs are not going to walk the plank for Pelosi. They will only vote for a bill if they have GOP cover. Otherwise they're going to abstain. And that means certain defeat if only liberals vote for it. Its dead for good.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

20 posted on 11/04/2009 12:21:07 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sun

If they don’t get it done this year, they certainly will not get it done. There is no way they’ll vote for this next year during the election cycle. Same with Cap and Tax.


21 posted on 11/04/2009 12:39:14 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Sun

The Democrats said they would get it before Thanksgiving Day.


22 posted on 11/04/2009 12:49:35 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Gay marriage has now lost in every state — 31 in all — in which it has been put to a popular vote.)
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To: Rummyfan

LoL!

(Haven’t seen Bones in too long a while)


23 posted on 11/04/2009 12:52:36 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Gay marriage has now lost in every state _31 in all_ in which it has been put to a popular vote.)
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To: Sun

We are keeping our country, Mr. Obama or whatever or whoever you really are.


24 posted on 11/04/2009 2:35:24 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: bruinbirdman

“Waterloo for Socialized Medicine was indeed August”
***********

“Death panels”


25 posted on 11/04/2009 2:38:31 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Sun
"Getting this done by the by the end of the year is a no-go," a senior Democratic leadership aide told ABC News. Two other key Congressional Democrats also told ABC News the same thing.

This is a Republican opportunity. It is not enough just to block Obamacare. The U.S. health care system has some serious problems, and there are several perfectly sensible things that could be done tomorrow, that would make a signficant difference, and that don't involve a federal takeover.

Republicans should come forward immediately with a stripped down list of action items. I'd start with three items: tort reform; the ability to buy health insurance across state lines; and tax equalization for individually purchased vs. employer provided plans. This stuff is all on the shelf. Our guys are already committed to it. The issue is whether the GOP leadership will summon the energy to press the fight, or just give it lip service.

The theme should be "Let's fix the things we can all agree about." The political message that needs to be pounded home is that it's the Democrats who are blocking real health insurance reform, and that they're doing so because they're holding it hostage to a hidden agenda of government control.

26 posted on 11/04/2009 3:05:50 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Sun
I agree, but it shows what we conservatives can do if we keep on fighting, so let’s KEEP ON FIGHTING.

It just kind of gets old fighting to be left alone every day. Look where that got us with the execrable hate^H^H^H^Hthought crime bill, recently signed into law by the proud campaigner for Corzine & Deeds.

27 posted on 11/04/2009 3:06:29 AM PST by altair (All I want for Christmas is NO legislation passed for the rest of the year)
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To: Rummyfan
Liberal version of Dr. McCoy:

He's dead Jim. You grab his tricorder, I'll grab his wallet.

28 posted on 11/04/2009 3:10:46 AM PST by altair (All I want for Christmas is NO legislation passed for the rest of the year)
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To: Sun

DANER, DANGER, Put us off our guard alert!


29 posted on 11/04/2009 3:23:37 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: grobdriver

V for victory is a very in your face ‘Can you hear us NOW!’ moment for the Rats on both sides of the aisle.
Last night’s results have put the punctuation to the 912 March on DC! The revenge of the Tea Party Americans!


30 posted on 11/04/2009 3:52:29 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Rummyfan
"It's dead Jim"... er, "I'm dead Jim."

Sadly I miss this actor, he did a fine job with his character.

31 posted on 11/04/2009 4:10:26 AM PST by Jmouse007 (God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Rummyfan
"It's dead Jim"... er, "I'm dead Jim."

Sadly I miss this actor, he did a fine job with his character.

32 posted on 11/04/2009 4:10:28 AM PST by Jmouse007 (God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
We can safely say that Health care “reform”is a dead stick.

I think they'd still be willing to use the nuclear option or stick it in under another bill at midnight.

I don't trust this report for a second.

33 posted on 11/04/2009 4:37:44 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: sphinx

Extremely well put and I couldn’t agree more! I will echo the same sentiments to my GOP reps.


34 posted on 11/04/2009 5:16:50 AM PST by cameraman
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To: HarleyD

I agree. They’re not going to get Obamacare or Cap and Tax passed in an election year. They’re not going to hand those issues to conservatives to campaign on with their unpopularity.

It’s possible they may try to tinker around the edges passing some little things just so Obama and the Democrat Congress can claim some sort of victory. As for the whole shebang, zip, sero, nada.


35 posted on 11/04/2009 5:28:25 AM PST by randita (Chains you can bereave in.)
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To: Sun
On one hand, Reid said: "We are not going to be bound by any timetables". But, on the other hand, I heard Schumer say that they'd get it passed under Reid's leadership.

So, despite Reid's assertion, they plan to get this passed by November 2010.

36 posted on 11/04/2009 5:45:22 AM PST by Fredgoblu
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To: Caipirabob
1. Good work NJ & VA!!!! 2. The People to the Rats: YOU LIE! 3. Don't trust the 'Rats - not for 1 second!
37 posted on 11/04/2009 6:01:19 AM PST by 4Liberty (Pimp my mortgage)
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To: fatnotlazy

Maybe he said the game’s not over until the fat lady sings.


38 posted on 11/04/2009 7:21:00 AM PST by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Sun

Health Care & Cap’n Trade (sic) are DEAD.

Blue Dogs, you followed your poodle off a cliff. Watch to see how much backpeddling and seperation folks from all but the bluest of blue districts start doing trying to seperate themselves from their blind support of the poodle.

If you aren’t from the bluest of blue districts, and you supported the bailouts, health care, cap’n trade or any of the other nonsense this poodles been pushing... Better put your resume’s. Doesn’t matter if you are an R or a D, you butt’s toast.


39 posted on 11/04/2009 7:25:16 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Sun

“This may come as an unwelcome surprise for the White House, where officials from the president on down have repeatedly said the health care bill would be signed into law by the end of the year.”

Of course, nearly everything the WH has said about health reform has either been inaccurate or a flagrant lie, so why should this erroneous prognostication have been any different? This is what happens when HOPE collides with REALITY.

Scholars will devote years of scribbling trying to figure out whether Obama was merely delusional or simply yet another calculating liberal Dem liar in his plethora of dead-wrong claims about health reform.


40 posted on 11/04/2009 7:37:42 AM PST by DrC
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To: Canedawg
"“Death panels”"
************

Sarah Palin

yitbos

41 posted on 11/04/2009 1:04:54 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: grobdriver; All

From my email from Coral Ridge Ministries:

“Please Take Action.

Please consider taking one of the following actions.

1) Pray that wisdom prevails and that Congress does the right thing.

2) If you can, please come to Washington, D.C. for Thursday’s rally at noon at the U.S. Capitol building on the House side.

3) Or visit your congressmen’s district office locally.

4) Call the Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121 or (202) 225-3121 and ask for your congressman’s office.”


42 posted on 11/04/2009 11:06:43 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

They’ll pass it on New Year’s Day when no one is paying attention.


43 posted on 11/04/2009 11:09:19 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand; All

“They’ll pass it on New Year’s Day when no one is paying attention.”

Could be.

Call the Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121 or (202) 225-3121 and ask for your congressman’s office, and if you can, visit their hometown office. Pelosi is expected to have the vote Friday or Saturday.

Let’s make the congresscritters more afraid of their constituents than they are of Nancy Pelosi.


44 posted on 11/04/2009 11:32:07 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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