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Buffett's Big Bet: $34B On 2nd-Largest Railroad
AP Report ^ | November 03, 2009

Posted on 11/03/2009 3:15:24 PM PST by Steelfish

Buffett's Big Bet: $34B On 2nd-Largest Railroad Freight expectations: Warren Buffett goes `all-in' with $34B bet on railroads and the economy

By Samantha Bomkamp,November 3, 2009

NEW YORK (AP) -- The biggest name in investing is making what he calls an "all-in wager" on the U.S. economy -- $34 billion to own a railroad that hauls everything from corn to cars across the country.

The acquisition of Burlington Northern Santa Fe, the nation's second-largest railroad, would be the biggest ever for Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway investment company.

It's a natural fit for the Oracle of Omaha, a city with a special place in railroad history. It was the starting point for the westward push of the transcontinental railroad. Today, Omaha is the headquarters of Union Pacific, and Burlington Northern trains rumble through.

In a statement, Buffett, whose investing decisions are carefully scrutinized by the world of finance, voiced confidence in the railroad industry.

"Most important of all, however, it's an all-in wager on the economic future of the United States. I love these bets," he said Tuesday.

Berkshire Hathaway Inc. already owns a 22 percent stake in Burlington Northern and would buy up the rest under the deal, for a total value of $34 billion. It still needs approval from Burlington shareholders and antitrust regulators, both expected early next year.

Burlington Northern is the biggest hauler of corn and coal for electricity, making it an indicator of the country's economic health. It also carries everyday items such as refrigerators, clothing and TVs from Western ports like Los Angeles and Seattle.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Iowa; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: bnsf; warrenbuffet; warrenbuffett

1 posted on 11/03/2009 3:15:24 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

A big portion of BNSF’s business is coal. We know how Obama wants to curtail coal. Of course, Berkshire’s Mid-America Energy also uses much coal. How does this play with the global warming game?


2 posted on 11/03/2009 3:17:51 PM PST by huskerjim
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To: Steelfish

Rail may be a rising star in transportation, since we can expect fuel prices to rise sharply after Cap and Trade, making trucking less palatable. Anybody else getting a real “Atlas Shrugged” vibe from this?


3 posted on 11/03/2009 3:18:39 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: Steelfish

” The biggest name in investing is making what he calls an “all-in wager” on the U.S. economy “

BS... He’s betting that fuel costs stay high enough to preclude any major rebound in the trucking industry....

And that’s *not* good for the U.S. economy.....


4 posted on 11/03/2009 3:20:25 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Steelfish
It will be interesting to see how this plays out over the next few years. I wish ol' Warren well but if I were a BNSF stockholder I would be unloading as fast as I could. Check out The Market Ticker for a timely piece of advice.
5 posted on 11/03/2009 3:21:00 PM PST by SteelTrap
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To: Steelfish

Hauls coal out of Campbell County, WY, which if it were a country, would be the 3rd largest coal producer in the world! (Gillette, WY)


6 posted on 11/03/2009 3:21:36 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Steelfish

Buffett has been adding shares of railroad companies for 3+ years now.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 3:21:47 PM PST by Onerom99 (I)
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To: Steelfish
Me thinks Buffy may have lost his last noodle...

Railroads!!!???

8 posted on 11/03/2009 3:22:02 PM PST by evad (It's A Mont Thing)
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To: Steelfish

Hauling Chinese cars?


9 posted on 11/03/2009 3:23:21 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Steelfish

If you are rich as Warren Buffet you don’t buy a train set, you buy a railroad!


10 posted on 11/03/2009 3:23:41 PM PST by Nik Naym (I remember when the United States was a free country. I feel old.)
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To: Steelfish

Wouldn’t Democrats love to throw all sorts of tax money to rail?


11 posted on 11/03/2009 3:24:23 PM PST by rhombus
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To: Steelfish

He’s betting on the rail road because he is obama’s buddy and figures the next stimulus will pay off for him that way.

http://www.businessinsider.com/duh-warren-buffett-is-betting-on-lots-more-stimulus-2009-11


12 posted on 11/03/2009 3:24:48 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: CIDKauf
Hauls coal out of Campbell County, WY, which if it were a country, would be the 3rd largest coal producer in the world! (Gillette, WY)

That's allegedly my next assignment. Gillette and Basin Electric Co-op's Dry Fork energy complex (2 new 800MW plants)

13 posted on 11/03/2009 3:26:20 PM PST by woofer ('Senator Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth' - Steyn)
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To: ez
Anybody else getting a real “Atlas Shrugged” vibe from this?

You mean you feel like he might be having an affair with some guy who owns a steel mill?

14 posted on 11/03/2009 3:27:15 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Uncle Ike

Right on, right on, right on!

Its a commodity play. The percentage of freight moved by rail as compared to wheels will remain high. They also have built-in pricing power and regulatory capture.


15 posted on 11/03/2009 3:28:12 PM PST by SteelTrap
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To: rhombus

Railroad has many uses. Maybe he's being sentimental.

16 posted on 11/03/2009 3:33:41 PM PST by MaxMax (Obama can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: Steelfish

he is probably expecting some major bailout money


17 posted on 11/03/2009 3:36:29 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: Steelfish

Buffet is playing with his own money here (and others), so I think we can exclude anything political from his calculus.

I have to wonder if he is not going into something that has real tangible value absent the USD. A railroad with tracks, right of ways, equipment; that is tangible. You don’t need a USD or US Government to create commerce with a railroad. No airport gates, no US highway, no permits..

Makes one think...


18 posted on 11/03/2009 3:40:14 PM PST by IamConservative (I'll keep my money. You keep the change.)
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To: huskerjim

and stock split 50-1


19 posted on 11/03/2009 3:41:50 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: SteelTrap
Its a commodity play.

A weakening dollar should increase US exports of corn and coal. Rail is a good way to get it to the coasts for shipping.
20 posted on 11/03/2009 3:44:50 PM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: MaxMax

Well there are all of those Abandoned military bases that could be used as “Work Camps”.

All they need is a spur line.


21 posted on 11/03/2009 3:50:20 PM PST by SwedeBoy2
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To: Steelfish

Rand Paul is heading to the Senate. “Atlas Shrugged” is furiously debated on FR. And now a billionaire causes buying the railroad a vote for America’s future? I hope Buffet doesn’t go Galt on us. Well, Galt enough to quit funding liberals would be good.


22 posted on 11/03/2009 3:51:48 PM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: Cheetahcat

“Hauling Chinese cars?”

Hauling all those cargo containers of Chinese crap to sell at Wal-Mart. That seems to be the only growth industry out there.


23 posted on 11/03/2009 3:52:01 PM PST by Jacob Morgan
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To: Nik Naym

One of his laments at the past 2 meetings (I own a B share mainly as my admission ticket) is the shortage of things big enough to buy with Berkshire’s cash.


24 posted on 11/03/2009 3:52:10 PM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: ez

Exactly! I just said as much before I read down enough to see yours.


25 posted on 11/03/2009 3:53:30 PM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: woofer

Been to Gillette...installing the centrally controlled city wide irrigation on a Computer Oriented Programming System, and landscaping at Campbell County High School (home of the Camels)... gotta go to Humphrey’s for a steak, where “a good hump is hard to find” ....and I’m not kidding.


26 posted on 11/03/2009 4:09:10 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: evad

You gotta go out West once in a while...we haul everything by rail


27 posted on 11/03/2009 4:12:28 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Jacob Morgan

Hauling box cars full of PVC pipe to install irrigation on all the golf courses... “Hey Charlie, I’ll meet you at the station to load the pipe on the truck”.


28 posted on 11/03/2009 4:14:26 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Uncle Ike
Buffet already owned 22% of BNI, a position which I think was deeply in the red. His exorbitant offer will redeem his current position and just maybe set up the biggest market manipulation in a long time.
29 posted on 11/03/2009 4:21:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Jacob Morgan

Hauling all those cargo containers of Chinese crap to sell at Wal-Mart. That seems to be the only growth industry out there.”

Bingo we have a winner.


30 posted on 11/03/2009 4:35:10 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: CIDKauf
gotta go to Humphrey’s for a steak,

Will do, CID.

Gotta wait for the boys in Chicago to pull my name out of the hat. I've been a bad boy on the last two projects. But have behaved myself at the LOS in NoDak. Basin seems to like me.

BTW, I commission the power equipment at Power Plants. DFS goes on backfeed 15 Dec. Time to roll motors.

31 posted on 11/03/2009 4:38:12 PM PST by woofer ('Senator Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth' - Steyn)
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To: CIDKauf
I love it out west, especially Utah.
But, I gotta admit, I don't hang around the rail yards too often.
32 posted on 11/03/2009 6:25:59 PM PST by evad (It's A Mont Thing)
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