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Obama "Seriously Considering" Second Stimulus As Unemployment Blasts Through 10%
The Business Insider ^ | 11-03-2009 | Obama "Seriously Considering" Second Stimulus As Unemployment Blasts Through 10%

Posted on 11/03/2009 6:13:36 AM PST by blam

Edited on 11/03/2009 6:22:51 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Commerce Secretary Gary Locke told Bloomberg TV today that a second economic stimulus is "being hotly discussed and very seriously considered within the administration as well as members of Congress."

Not surprisingly, this news triggered a spasm of backtracking: Locke's spokesman now says he was being "imprecise."


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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; recession; stimulus
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1 posted on 11/03/2009 6:13:37 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Yeah, ‘cause THAT’LL help.


2 posted on 11/03/2009 6:14:16 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: blam

Unemployment is much higher than 10 percent.


3 posted on 11/03/2009 6:14:23 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: blam

A second stimulus, eh?

I guess 10% unemployment isn’t high enough.

God, these people are morons.


4 posted on 11/03/2009 6:15:10 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Food Stamps!)
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To: Puppage

> 10% (by far) from one stimulus. Is it not enough? Does he want to break 30%?


5 posted on 11/03/2009 6:15:39 AM PST by Ingtar (Asses far Left of me; Rinos to the Left; FReepin' on the Right with you.)
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To: blam

Let’s hope he’s “seriously” considering it with the same foot dragging diligence he is with Afghanistan.


6 posted on 11/03/2009 6:15:42 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (Can I opt-out of Obamaland?)
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To: blam

I would prefer it if this incompetent boob would just step down and get out of the way.

He can take his passle of communists with him when he leaves.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 6:15:52 AM PST by indylindy (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: blam

The first one worked out so well.


8 posted on 11/03/2009 6:16:01 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: blam
Here Comes Stimulus 2.0
9 posted on 11/03/2009 6:16:20 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
"In any event... It appears a second, job-creating stimulus is coming up:"

It appears a second, job-creating stimulus government expanding, deficit exploding, Marxist explosion is coming up:

10 posted on 11/03/2009 6:16:31 AM PST by jessduntno (TOTUS fails and POtuS becomes a phuttering stuck.)
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To: blam

They should have just mailed every household a check last February and saved all the graft, waste, and corruption that renders every government program ineffective for everyone but the crooks with Democrat connections.


11 posted on 11/03/2009 6:17:01 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: blam

Economic Recovery : “Mission Accomplished”

Where are those 100 economists that Obama kept telling us said were telling him #1 would create jobs?


12 posted on 11/03/2009 6:17:12 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: blam
In any event... It appears a second, job-creating stimulus is coming up:

How about we finish "creating" all the new jobs with the first stimulus before we run to China for more money. How about that?

13 posted on 11/03/2009 6:17:47 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: blam

Good grief, these people are hell-bent on making my only child a slave.

Bastards!


14 posted on 11/03/2009 6:17:56 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: blam

Seriously.

Don’t.


15 posted on 11/03/2009 6:18:08 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: blam

Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, hoping that the results will be different next time.

16 posted on 11/03/2009 6:18:13 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: blam

It seems to be helping BO’S friend warren buffet already!

http://www.businessinsider.com/rail-stocks-are-on-fire-2009-11

http://www.businessinsider.com/duh-warren-buffett-is-betting-on-lots-more-stimulus-2009-11


17 posted on 11/03/2009 6:18:14 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: blam

Seems the first lobotomy didn’t work.


18 posted on 11/03/2009 6:18:34 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: blam

I wonder where the 10% comes from. The BLS figures for October come out November 6th. The current unemployment rate (W) is 9.8%.


19 posted on 11/03/2009 6:18:52 AM PST by kabar
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To: blam

What did Rush say the other day? Something like:

Another seven years of 0 would be painful. Every day you wake up and he’s doing something to hurt America.

Agree 100%.


20 posted on 11/03/2009 6:19:10 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: indylindy
I would prefer it if this incompetent boob would just step down and get out of the way.

The bench is pretty deep on that team. Would Biden be better? Pelosi would play him like a piano. Reid would pull his string while nancy worked his jaw.

21 posted on 11/03/2009 6:19:49 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: blam

This would be to get them through the 2010 elections with billions of portk. No other reason.


22 posted on 11/03/2009 6:20:06 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: blam

They haven’t even spent most of the first stimulant have they?


23 posted on 11/03/2009 6:22:03 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: kittymyrib

I did some rough calculations a few weeks ago and figured out that if just the taxpayers received funds directly from the stimulous and bail out money, the checks (or tax breaks) would have amounted to about $15K per tax payer (per filed taxes that paid the fed).

I wonder how that would have stimulated the economy?


24 posted on 11/03/2009 6:22:49 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: freekitty

You bet it is.

They can only estimate by how many are receiving unemployment. Many more out there with no unemployment compensation that cannot be counted accuratley.


25 posted on 11/03/2009 6:22:51 AM PST by Frenchtown Dan
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To: blam

why dont they just take the unspent part of the original stimulus and use it to help create jobs instead of enrich their liberal buds.


26 posted on 11/03/2009 6:23:38 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: blam

It’s been said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. How much more proof do we need that these people are truly insane.


27 posted on 11/03/2009 6:24:19 AM PST by detective
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To: Tenacious 1

Much more than the money given to AIG that no one seems to know where it went.


28 posted on 11/03/2009 6:24:29 AM PST by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Puppage

They just need more money to pass through the hands of cronies so they can replenish themselves.


29 posted on 11/03/2009 6:24:55 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: blam

A second stimulus? Wow! I never saw that coming!............./projectile sarc


30 posted on 11/03/2009 6:24:58 AM PST by OB1kNOb (As government grows, corruption flows.)
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To: blam
Obama stimulates the economy by creating non-productive, non-sustainable government jobs and spewing free cash to the poor. And let's don't forget the $24,000 per car cash for clunkers program.

I wonder why it didn't work?

31 posted on 11/03/2009 6:26:12 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: jessduntno
Yep, expanding government. And you know how that goes, once bureaucracies are created they never die.
32 posted on 11/03/2009 6:26:26 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: kittymyrib

But that graft and corruption was precisely the point (besides expanding government) for the rats!


33 posted on 11/03/2009 6:27:11 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: blam
He could stimulate the economy very quickly with this simple speech:

I will refuse to sign any health care reform, carbon tax, or other tax increase the rest of my term.

Nobody would believe him, but if he meant it and was believed it would help.

Even if he comes out and says "I guarantee everyone's taxes will go up 20% starting next year" it would help. Uncertainty is going to keep companies from hiring, but if they know what to expect for the next 3 years they can create their growth plan. (most companies do want to grow) Salaries may be lower if taxes are higher, but there will be jobs if companies know what to expect
34 posted on 11/03/2009 6:27:58 AM PST by LostPassword
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To: blam

IMO, the psychology behind it would be that if they passed a 2nd stimilus they would have a “talking point” in the run-up to the 2010 election. They could say during the campaigns that the 2nd stimulus “hasn’t kicked in yet” and “once it kicks in we’ll see improvement in jobs numbers.” They know that if there is no 2nd stimulus to use an excuse for what is GOING to happen (notice I’m not saying the 2nd stimulus will work, just that they’ll say it’s going to work in the future to restore jobs), the 2010 election is going to be a dismal failure for the Dems.


35 posted on 11/03/2009 6:28:55 AM PST by dawn53
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To: blam

What happened to the money from the first stimulus? Deposited into overseas accounts of certain select individuals, I’m sure.


36 posted on 11/03/2009 6:29:34 AM PST by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load)
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To: sickoflibs

“Where are those 100 economists that Obama kept telling us said were telling him #1 would create jobs?”

He never named one ;-)


37 posted on 11/03/2009 6:34:27 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Plus, Commerce is going to “hire” 1 million people to “work on the census” in the Spring. There’s a million “jobs” right there.


38 posted on 11/03/2009 6:35:18 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: Overtaxed Patriot

“What happened to the money from the first stimulus? Deposited into overseas accounts of certain select individuals, I’m sure.”

You aren’t far off. Where is the 17.5 billion stimulus money that has been parked in New Jersey for close to six months? Bet you can’t find it. Several of us bankers have tried.


39 posted on 11/03/2009 6:36:55 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: blam

Sure why not? It’s all play money anyway, now. Just make-believe.

Buy gold, buy lead.


40 posted on 11/03/2009 6:37:01 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( The only historical figure I admire in his present condition is Jesus.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, hoping that the results will be different next time.”

Dittos


41 posted on 11/03/2009 6:38:53 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: blam

Well - Joe Biden did say that we have to spend money to keep from going bankrupt.


42 posted on 11/03/2009 6:39:59 AM PST by Bloodclot
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To: blam
It appears a second, job-creating stimulus is coming up

Ahh. some more of the "saved" kind

How many millions per 'saved' job will this cost us?

The figures on the clunkers program estimate it cost $25,000 for each car sold.

The only folk that benefited was the auto outfits - and only temporarily as only the people who could afford a new car payment and new car insurance, bought them - THAT MONTH - and then car sales went into the toilet. No real net gains.

And the truth about the phony 'jobs created' numbers comes out - lying through their teeth.

YOu want jobs? Do NOT let the tax cuts expire in Jan...get off small businesses backs.

But do they really WANT more jobs - or less? After all, one of the top musts of the commie way to take over a country is first to destroy it - and rampant unemployment is one of the keys.

AS disconcerting as these actions of this administration is, it's even more so that they do it all so blatantly, as though they aren't worried about the next election...as if they aren't planning on there BEING another election.

The clunkers program was a disaster.

The flu vaccine is trickling out way behind - and take this example: In my daughters school where she has 3 children, they have sent home permission slips to be signed ahead of time - but they have no choice is which they will have - the nose live virus or the shot - as the school doesn't know which they are going to get.

No permission from my daughter and hubby.

The gov't has 'controlling the riot of people trying to get the vaccine' exercises across the country during the summer - then a week or so ago the pres. declares a state of emergency = and then the gov't doesn't have near the amount of promised vaccine ready - (and it still largely untested)

OH yeah. We need these people in charge of health care...not that it's a "health"car bill - it is a Socialist take over bill.

We must not allow it - or our voices will be soon be silenced...

43 posted on 11/03/2009 6:41:54 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"libeal buds"

About three months before next years elections you will see that money being spent on "shovel ready" projects in contested districts. Each one will have a lib paper showing a photo of a Dem congresscritter handing out money to some local Dem flunky or some community organizer. They will show people with actual shovels or tools of some sort digging holes in the desert or knocking down deserted buildings. The caption on the headlined photo will be: "See what Obama and the Dems are doing for you." After the election all the "shovel ready" projects will be abruptly abandoned. To wait for the next election.

44 posted on 11/03/2009 6:43:00 AM PST by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Ingtar
"10% (by far) from one stimulus. Is it not enough? Does he want to break 30%? "

In a word..."YES".

I think the Kenyan looks at it in reverse...10% unemployment is not enough for him to achieve enough power to pull off a coup. Remember, "don't let any crisis go to waste"?.

He probably thought we'd all be begging and crawling to him at 10%, but the American People have more resolve than he banked on.

But he keeps pushing and pushing, and eventually he'll push one too many times - the American People don't like being pushing in the corner, especially by a no-talent showboat hell bent on gratifying his socialist/communist handlers and cohorts.
45 posted on 11/03/2009 6:48:54 AM PST by FrankR (To Congress: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10!)
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To: FrankR

I think Obama is salivating at what cash for clunkers did to GDP. He’s gonna do this on a massive scale going into the 2010 elections just in time for the news to trumpet 5 or 6% growth. There will be no attention paid to the 500 billion or so pillaged from us. I’m telling you, he has found the ultimate fundraiser with these bailouts.


46 posted on 11/03/2009 6:57:29 AM PST by MiltonFriedmanFan
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To: blam

But they haven’t even finished handing out the bribes that represents the first one...


47 posted on 11/03/2009 6:59:30 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: blam
They haven't even 'spent' 3/4's of the first one...this has NOTING, NADA, ZERo to do with jobs. This has everything to do with the headlong rush to the coup that is going on in DC. the pres. has his shadow army of commies/marxists running the gov't with no oversight whatsoever, by means of his insistence on keeping his BlackBerry for his private communications with them - bypassing all security protocol (he spent hundreds of thousands of dollars fighting to keep his BlackBerry - and his czars are running the country, making the laws, by-passing the Constitutional delegation of law making to the Congress...

The democrats have closed door huddles on the health care bill - and CHANGE the LOCKS to keep out any republicans (yet Rahmmm is in there with them) - and no one dare call it a COUP? Does no one question the illegality of locking one party out of hearings?a.A coup d'état. b.A sudden appropriation of leadership or power; a takeover )

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Wake up, America. There has been a COUP, call it one or not, in our capital.

Watch for more stealth bills to get out guns - first through requiring all guns be registered - so's they know where every one is = preparatory to another law to collect them.

That's how Hitler did it. First, they have to know who has what guns.

They also are still trying to get through the marked ammo law. That would have every bullet manufactured -marked. And; everyone who bought ammo would have to register that sale...then, bingo, they know who has guns and what guns, by the ammo they buy...and that ammo will be coded to YOU.

The law, if they sneak it through (they tried last spring, but the NRA was on it and it got shelved - but they will try again, sneak it through inside some other bill having nothing to do with it -

anyway, part of that law will outlaw reloading and require you to turn in all old, unmarked ammo.

Can't you just see all the gun owners handing in their ammo? yeah, right. "Ah, gosh, I done already shot all that off!" (Prove different, Mr. Dictator.)

But they do have another registration of ammo bought bill coming up. JOin the NRA - they'll keep you informed ahead, and we need their support - and they need the bucks to do it.

Freedom aint' free...we have to fight on all fronts.

48 posted on 11/03/2009 7:08:48 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: MiltonFriedmanFan
Cash for Clunkers was actually a big bust for businesses, as many dealers have still not received their money from the Government...a testimony to Government efficiency.

The old adage, "Fool me once, shame on you, but fool me twice, shame on me." might kick in and the participation could be low.

Insofar as 5-6% growth in time for the elections is like having your arm cut off, and someone handing you a band-aid. Too little too late.

It's going to come down to the local level...common folks aren't going to give a damn about the GDP, they just want a job...they want to work and support their families...THEY WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT.

The poorer and more dependent that obama can make us, the more he can control us...it's an old trick employed by every country that's ever tried socialism/communism.

But I think most Americans were raised in a free America and we don't know how to NOT be free...and we will rebel...big time. It's in our history, it's in our genes.
49 posted on 11/03/2009 7:14:13 AM PST by FrankR (To Congress: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10!)
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To: blam

1 trillion dollars wee-weed away.

Directing half that much to rebuilding infrastructure would have ended the slump right away.


50 posted on 11/03/2009 7:17:27 AM PST by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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