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60 Minutes Puts Forth Laughable, Factually Incorrect MPAA Propaganda On Movie Piracy
TechDirt ^ | 11/2/09 | Mike Masnick

Posted on 11/03/2009 6:00:46 AM PST by steve-b

31 years ago, in 1978, the television program 60 Minutes put on an episode about the awful threat of "video piracy" to the movie industry. Featuring the MPAA's Jack Valenti, the episode focused on how the VCR was going to destroy the movie business because anyone could copy and watch a movie in the privacy of their own home. Of course, in retrospect, that episode is hilariously wrong. You would think that, given how wrong they got it thirty years ago on this particular subject, 60 Minutes would be a bit more careful taking on the same subject again.

No such luck.

CBS's 60 Minutes has made itself out to be more of a laughingstock than usual when it comes to "investigative reporting," putting on an episode about "video piracy" that is basically 100% MPAA propaganda, without any fact checking or any attempt to challenge the (all MPAA connected) speakers, or to include anyone (anyone!) who would present a counterpoint. The episode is funny in that it contradicts itself at times (with no one noticing it) and gets important (and easily checked) facts wrong. And, of course, it basically mimics that old episode that history has shown to have been totally (laughably) false....

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Technical
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; cbs; copyfraud; copyright; seebs
60 Minutes Puts Forth Laughable, Factually Incorrect... Propaganda

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1 posted on 11/03/2009 6:00:47 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b

It’s particularly odd that the penalties for “piracy” are so ridiculously high, yet a Post Office worker who actually stole thousands of NetFlix discs (actual theft) gets off relatively easy...


2 posted on 11/03/2009 6:03:47 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: steve-b

Garbage actors and actresses, garbage movies, garbage music...


3 posted on 11/03/2009 6:03:55 AM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: Dallas59

When Hollywood was run by the Studios, actors and actesses were traded like the commody they were, and the only line that really mattered was the bottom line. When the mogels fell and TV rose, it became sadly more about pleasing the talent than the customer. With the Warner Brothers and Capra in charge, you got feel good westerns, and life-affirming movies. With “stars” you got Brokeback Mountain and that Clint Eastwood boxing moview where the real story is the female lead dying as a parapleegic.


4 posted on 11/03/2009 6:09:58 AM PST by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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To: steve-b
"video piracy"


There hasn't been a movie made since 1959 that's worth 'pirating'.

Okay. Maybe 1961 and 'The Misfits'. But only for its historical value. (Gable and Monroe's last film)

5 posted on 11/03/2009 6:17:11 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: 50sDad

“Million Dollar Baby” was a great movie.
Too bad too many people couldn’t see through the plot synopsis in their local rag and look at the movie for what it was.


6 posted on 11/03/2009 6:19:59 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

MDP was a huge downer.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 6:26:56 AM PST by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: eclecticEel

So’s life, sometimes.

I like “feel good” movies as much as the next guy, but they get old when that’s all you see. And, some people would have it that way.


8 posted on 11/03/2009 6:30:46 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: steve-b

The actual reasons for the 60 Minutes piece on video piracy are these:

1. There is currently a UN treaty on copyrights under consideration to crack down on “piracy” worldwide that will negate things like our Supreme Court’s rulings on video recording and fair use. Also, many things with a current US copyright are public domain in other countries whose laws and public rights to make derivative works would likewise be voided.

2. Disney in 1977 obtained an extension of the old maximum 54 years copyright on Mickey Mouse just as its first movies (1923) were about to pass into the public domain. The maximum for a US corporate copyright is currently 95 years and Disney is again pushing for an extention beyond 2018. They don’t want to wait till the last minute again.

In common law, the public is entitled to add intellectual knowledge to the public domain, after the author or inventor has had a period of time for making an exclusive profit from it, in order to promote further invention and derivative works. The original copyright and patent laws were passed when the pace of scientific development and disemination of works was at a much slower pace. In the modern age of industrial research and electronic distriburion, the argument should be made for shorter protection periods, not longer. The public is being deprived of the right to make and enjoy its own inventions and derivative works to its loss in the interest of protecting corporate level profits and we are all diminished and being robbed of those benefits as a result.


9 posted on 11/03/2009 6:31:08 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Condor51

Don’t forget Eli Wallach, who’s great in just about any film he ever did.


10 posted on 11/03/2009 6:31:17 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

I hate it when Hollywood lies in the trailers. Don’t sell me a piece of pecan danish, and deliver a bowl of prune whip.


11 posted on 11/03/2009 6:33:17 AM PST by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Eli Wallach. Still alive and at last report still kickin.


12 posted on 11/03/2009 6:34:50 AM PST by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Maybe this is the thing that will finally get the US couch potato to care about national sovereignty.


13 posted on 11/03/2009 6:35:51 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Copyfraud ping?


14 posted on 11/03/2009 6:38:59 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Maybe, if anybody knew what was going on.
I doubt 60 Minutes bothered to inform them.


15 posted on 11/03/2009 6:39:00 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: R W Reactionairy

Yep.
I don’t think he’s doing much lately, but he’s done enough for a lifetime.


16 posted on 11/03/2009 6:39:25 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: steve-b

60 Minutes - liberal butt kissers - suck...


17 posted on 11/03/2009 6:43:26 AM PST by GOPJ (When I was a child Halloween wasn't a celebration of evil - but a celebration of standing up to evil)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Someone ought to. It would be a good primer on conservative politics to the great unwashed.


18 posted on 11/03/2009 6:45:59 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: steve-b

31 years ago - that’s about when it jumped the sharp and I quit watching it...


19 posted on 11/03/2009 7:02:20 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: steve-b

The copyright cartel has a massive propaganda campaign, and this is only part of it. They’re also creating school materials to brainwash our kids.


20 posted on 11/03/2009 7:10:30 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: N3WBI3; PAR35; Sir_Ed; SubGeniusX; TruthSetsUFree; rabscuttle385; ShadowAce; Baynative; holden; ...
The Copyfraud ping: copyright, patent and trademark law, mainly as applied to the digital age, especially their abuse.
If you want on or off the Copyfraud Ping List, Freepmail me.

Thanks for the heads-up, ShadowAce.

21 posted on 11/03/2009 7:16:41 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: 50sDad
"I hate it when Hollywood lies in the trailers. Don’t sell me a piece of pecan danish, and deliver a bowl of prune whip."

They should have disclaimers at the end of the trailers that say, "This trailer included every humorous or interesting segment in the movie.

They say that the movies that advertise the most are the worst movies. That good movies rely more on word of mouth and favorable reviews.

22 posted on 11/03/2009 7:27:40 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Condor51
There hasn't been a movie made since 1959 that's worth 'pirating'.

Actually, about 80% of Bittorrent traffic consists of TV shows, not movies.

23 posted on 11/03/2009 7:56:26 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: DannyTN
Another good (and scuralous) example of this was the excritable Golden Compass. On the surface of the trailers, feel-good fantasy adventure for the kids...under the surface, an attack on Christianity in genral and the Catholic Church in particular, with a healthy dose of Animilism and the glory of "spirit guides". I swear, I played D&D for years, and I find that movie more subversive than non-gamers viewed my favorite role-playing game.

To a lesser extent, you might ad in "Bridge to Teribithia", which looks like a fantasy kids movie, and is actually children enduring emotional conflict, retreating from reality, and ultimately, death of a likable main character. (Which puts me in mind-set of "So Your Grandmother is Dying of Cancer" as a childrens' book.)

24 posted on 11/03/2009 8:00:07 AM PST by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

This thread makes Tuco angry.

25 posted on 11/03/2009 11:47:32 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: 50sDad
Golden Compass "animals" are not animals, but demon familiars; they are identified as such in the books. Although Philip Pullman has denied being a Satanist (hurts books sales dontcha know) the His Dark Materials trilogy is clearly a Satanist work; I say this as an agnostic who read the books before my children first showed some interest in them. I told them not to bother. Agitprop can never be good art and Pullman's propaganda pieces are no exception.

The progression of the books, by the way, is identical to the progression intended for the movies. You get sucked into the first one, which has a few glancing but clearly anti-religious references, and as the trilogy progresses it becomes more and more clearly a Satanist work. In the final book, all those imprisoned by God are freed to rejoin the earth (whatever the hell that means) and God is destroyed in a final cataclysm.

Pullman once had dinner with J.R.R. Tolkien (Pullman was a student at Oxford in waning years of Tolkien's professorship there.) Reading the account from Pullman's perspective -- which Pullman seems quite proud of -- will convince you of what a conceited little prick he is: he reviles Tolkien because the professor (who probably had nothing in common with graduate students except literature at that point in his career) bothered himself to make small talk about Anglo-Saxon Literature with Pullman. He should have ignored the little egotist altogether, but no good deed goes unpunished with jerks like Pullman.

26 posted on 11/03/2009 1:23:55 PM PST by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: FredZarguna
I have always puzzled at those who think that God is somehow evil or unfair for judging sin. Consider Hitler...would a fair God let that kind of evil go unpunished? It would take a petty, capricious, unfeeling God not to judge that kind of evil as worthy of punishment. The problem lies, of course, that to a perfect God, all kinds of sin are the same level of imperfect. I prefer to look at that quandry that it takes a just, kind and compassionate God to both punish that kind of evil...and to allow forgiveness for those who have fallen short and are genuinely sorry about having sinned and fallen short. My ten-year-old and my sixteen-year-old both understand this easy padigem; my sixty-year-old college professor brother thinks it's silly.

I can easily sympathise with people who are unsure about the existance of my God. I have to work hard to sympathise with arrogant, puffed-up, mean-spirited people who are so sure that my God is a cruel begger that they are willing to make fun of what I believe...and to try and slip it in under the radar to embitter my kids.

27 posted on 11/03/2009 1:46:47 PM PST by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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