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Politico Allen's Idea Of 'Real Toss-up': Hoffman Ahead By 17%
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 11/02/2009 4:27:23 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

When you're an MSMer, you're an MSMer all the way--even when faced with facts that might make you like, well, ridiculous . . .

Mike Allen, appearing on Morning Joe, has declared the NY-23rd race a "real toss-up" despite a new poll from a respected organization showing Doug Hoffman with a 17-point lead.

The claim by Allen, Politico's chief political correspondent's, was so absurd that, on the spot, host Joe Scarborough offered 3:1 odds to Allen and anyone else wanting to place a few kopeks on Dem Bill Owens.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; doughoffman; joescarborough; liberalmedia; mikeallen; ny2009; tossups

1 posted on 11/02/2009 4:27:24 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Politico’s Allen tries to keep hope alive for Dem in 23rd. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 11/02/2009 4:28:15 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“despite a new poll from a respected organization”

PP is no longer “Respected” because they are not telling Democrats and thier media allies what they want to hear.

Sheesh, get with the program, will ya???


3 posted on 11/02/2009 4:34:11 AM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Just curious...what kind of idiot votes for someone who has ‘dropped out’?


4 posted on 11/02/2009 4:34:27 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: tcrlaf

You’re right: sorry about that ;-)


5 posted on 11/02/2009 4:34:39 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I so hope that poll is solid. A 17% grubbing of the Dem and flushing the RINO will be so sweet. Note to the White House - FAIL.
6 posted on 11/02/2009 4:34:51 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Allen could be right considering the massive election fraud that will likely be attempted in Owens favor.


7 posted on 11/02/2009 4:36:12 AM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: mad_as_he$$

IMHBDAO,

he’ll have to win by this much in order to make it
impossible for the left to “secretary of state” him
out of his win.


8 posted on 11/02/2009 4:36:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB
Sad but true. ACORN is evil and needs to go away.
9 posted on 11/02/2009 4:37:21 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What a stupid thing for Allen to say. Even Mika is like, seriously Mike??? I think they are stunned. lol Tomorrow ought to be one of those great FReeper days.


10 posted on 11/02/2009 4:38:50 AM PST by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I saw that. Joe was laughing at Allen when offering his bet. Allen was ashen faced and almost speechless.


11 posted on 11/02/2009 4:39:13 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Hang in there, Owens...Joe Biden is on the way!


12 posted on 11/02/2009 4:41:01 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I so hope that poll is solid. A 17% grubbing of the Dem and flushing the RINO will be so sweet. Note to the White House - FAIL.

Did the WH come out for Owens? If so, major fail. If not, then they will blame Owens for not coming to them for help.

The dems are going to be wee-wee'd up about this one.

13 posted on 11/02/2009 4:45:28 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Look people, I hope Hoffman wins as the rest of you do, but we need to keep in mind this is a WAR in the republican Party for it's soul which is going to take some casulties of lost elections.

It appears the electorate is finally starting to realize moderates/rino's are losing causes and do nothing but hurt a strong conservative America agenda.

All I'm saying is prepare yourself for this war which has started, and is going last a while.

14 posted on 11/02/2009 4:47:52 AM PST by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: raybbr; All
The dems are going to be wee-wee'd up about this one.

So, what is the reaction from the Whitehouse if the Dems take a beating, which looks like a possibility, on Tuesday?

15 posted on 11/02/2009 4:48:44 AM PST by riri (http://rationaljingo.blogspot.com/)
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To: riri

And will we hear from the media the beating drum, as they played it with Bush, that these elections were a referendum on Obama??


16 posted on 11/02/2009 4:49:38 AM PST by riri (http://rationaljingo.blogspot.com/)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I thought Carl Bernstein’s take on Republicans winning these elections this morning on Morning Joe was every bit as crazy...i.e., in the long term it would be good for democrats. Unbelievable...Joe and Mika looked at him like he was a mental patient.


17 posted on 11/02/2009 4:50:33 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Looks like it will be called: The 23rd Slam.

A win of biblical proportions.

18 posted on 11/02/2009 4:52:54 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

19 posted on 11/02/2009 4:53:16 AM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: rdl6989

LOL: Baghdad Mike Allen!


20 posted on 11/02/2009 4:54:30 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: raybbr

This whole scenario was a WH plan. Take away the Rep to run the Army and back fill with a Dem - until Hoffman went rouge.


21 posted on 11/02/2009 4:56:30 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: riri
So, what is the reaction from the Whitehouse if the Dems take a beating, which looks like a possibility, on Tuesday?

All opposition to the left is racist, hateful, ignorant, etc etc etc

Bush's fault.

22 posted on 11/02/2009 4:57:11 AM PST by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

'Tis Only A Flesh Wound
23 posted on 11/02/2009 5:09:10 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I also saw how he called Christie in NJ a “bad candidate who ran a bad campaign”. I hope it will be interesting Wednesday to see him explain how a “bad candidate who ran a bad campaign” defeated a guy who outspent him almost 3:1 in a solid blue state with the active participation of “The 0ne”.


24 posted on 11/02/2009 5:10:19 AM PST by hotshu (Keep the Faith, that will be the only thing 0bama doesn't try to steal from us.)
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To: who knows what evil?
Just curious...what kind of idiot votes for someone who has ‘dropped out’?

McCain...Newt....Romney...

25 posted on 11/02/2009 5:10:31 AM PST by Always Right
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To: mad_as_he$$

Wonder if McHugh will be FIRED by Bammy if Hoffman wins??


26 posted on 11/02/2009 5:10:35 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: raybbr

Obama hosted a $30,000 per couple fundraiser for Owens in Manahattan about 10 - 12 days ago where he fully endorsed the Dem candidate. Also, the AP, at WH urging, wrote a piece two weeks ago saying that the true test of “Obama’s coattails” will be NY-23. The WH set themselves up on this one, and tomorrow night is going to be one gloomy evening at 1600, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, the NYT newsroom, the WashPo newsroom, etc..... Ha, ha!


27 posted on 11/02/2009 5:33:57 AM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I seem to remember some Republican party boss saying this seat was ‘lost’. I kinda wish Scuzzi was still in it so she and her Pub supporters could have a humilitating defeat. I think this whole episode (up till Hoffman stepped in) was a plan by the Obama gang to flip this seat and the only reason Scuzzi stepped out is that she was splitting the liberal/Dem vote.


28 posted on 11/02/2009 5:57:41 AM PST by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: sirchtruth

While I agree with you, I think the war has been “on” for a while. This could be our first battle victory. And I sense the momentum is shifting.

This whole Scuzzy/Hoffman thing was the perfect storm to get it going.


29 posted on 11/02/2009 6:07:57 AM PST by super7man
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To: Ann Archy

Interesting question. My guess would be no. Then Conservatives could, with validity, call the whole thing political. Of course the NRCC and the GOP would not.


30 posted on 11/02/2009 6:21:35 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hell’s bells, Reagan/Carter in 1980, and Reagan/Mondale in 1984, were both “too close to call”, according to the DriveBy, State Run, Lap Dog Stenographers. And Reagan won BOTH in landslides.

Same as with 2000 and 2004...close lead for Gore/Kerry? State called by network immediately. Close to wide lead for Bush? State “too close to call”, or called hours later.

If I am an enemy of the state, based on my participation as a conservative black, then the election of 2000 is the start of the cause of it.


31 posted on 11/02/2009 6:28:15 AM PST by Christian4Bush ("A community organizer can't start bitching when communities organize." - Rush, 8/5/09)
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To: who knows what evil?

So, Joe Biden’s on the way to NY-23 to campaign for Owens.

With Joe on your side, what could possibly go wrong?


32 posted on 11/02/2009 6:30:52 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: moose2004
The WH set themselves up on this one, and tomorrow night is going to be one gloomy evening at 1600, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, the NYT newsroom, the WashPo newsroom, etc..... Ha, ha!

Ordinarily, yes...however, they'll have reason to console themselves on Wednesday...as it is, calendar-wise, the one year anniversary of the greatest (recent) day of their lives...the day that the Obamanation was elected. Haven't decided yet if I'm going to wear black.

33 posted on 11/02/2009 6:33:47 AM PST by Christian4Bush ("A community organizer can't start bitching when communities organize." - Rush, 8/5/09)
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To: Christian4Bush

If Hoffman wins and Sarah Palin goes on to become POTUS in 2012 historians will look at district 23 as one of the worst political blunders in American history, a megalomaniacal POTUS who thought he saw an opportunity to gain one more seat in the House of Representatives by appointing its member to a job in his administration and for that one seat lost himself the Presidency because it became “a bridge too far”.


34 posted on 11/02/2009 6:50:18 AM PST by techno
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

that looks to me like a blowout if that what happens tommorrow.

what a great message to send to both parties


35 posted on 11/02/2009 7:12:55 AM PST by LMAO
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

And this morning Obama at -13 at Rasmussen


36 posted on 11/02/2009 7:15:11 AM PST by cookcounty (Obama: ---Despiser of the Honduran Constitution and contemptuous of ours.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Politico was set up as a sort of rebellion against the Washington Journalistic Establishment, but has itself fallen back into an orbit within the Bos-Wash Bubble, out of touch with the rest of the world.


37 posted on 11/02/2009 7:20:15 AM PST by cookcounty (Obama: ---Despiser of the Honduran Constitution and contemptuous of ours.)
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To: Christian4Bush

Sorry, it will be a very bad day for the WH tomorrow, and I can’t wait to listen to their lies and BS spin.


38 posted on 11/02/2009 7:57:17 AM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What cracks me us is how clueless the Politico and all the liberals are about inventing news like this. They obviously don’t realize that Republicans who might ‘buy’ it would be only more determined to help get the vote out for Hoffman? Dems will sit on their butts and think they’ll win.


39 posted on 11/02/2009 8:01:27 AM PST by demkicker (Helping Democrats Become Extinct)
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To: demkicker
Dems will sit on their butts and think they’ll win.

Except for the ACORN/SEIU types who will be busy manufacturing bogus absentee ballot votes and doing whatever other type of fraud they can get away with. In New Jersey, with the big blocks of votes in the ghettos of Newark, Jersey City and Camden, they may well get away with it.

40 posted on 11/02/2009 8:18:34 AM PST by CedarDave (FOX news:"Fair and balanced (no matter what the White House says) . We report because others won't.")
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