Dede Scozzafava proves her detractors right!

The American Thinker ^ | November 01, 2009 | Aaron Gee

[Scanian]

It is being reported today that Dede Scozzafava is endorsing Democrat Bill Owens. In one fell swoop she proved her detractors right. Her actions also speak to the Republicans that made excuses for her such as Newt Gingrich; they were dead wrong. When Dede withdrew from the race on Saturday, many (including me) thought she was doing the right thing for Northern New York, and the Republican Party. Instead we have been presented with the quintessential example of what the label RINO means.

"Scozzafava dropped out after Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman experienced a late-in-the-game surge. The move was expected to consolidate GOP voters behind Hoffman on Tuesday.

But on Sunday, Scozzafava backed Democrat Bill Owens -- the announcement was made in a statement sent out by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee."

When the DNC is releasing statements for the former GOP candidate you know something is very wrong. This is a wake up call for the leaders of the Grand Old Party. The party got its hat handed to it in the last election by running the most "moderate" candidate in decades why do they continue in the same vein that didn't work last time?

[Steely Tom]

She’s a Democrat.

The people behind her are too arrogant, and too locked in their world-view, to realize that their support wasn’t what their media was telling them it was. A little push-back from the real world, and the bubble popped. Only problem for them is it popped too soon, and now anyone can see how we were conned.

Will NJ voters see it too?

[rockinqsranch]

“The party got its hat handed to it in the last election by running the most “moderate” candidate in decades why do they continue in the same vein that didn’t work last time?”

The leadership. The leadership chooses what they like. They like Lefties, because they are Lefties.

Expose the RINO’s for the Leftist insurgents they are. Get the RINO’s the HELL out of the Republican Party, especially the leadership. Get rid of the “mavericks”.

[airborne]

Will NJ voters see it too?

How will NJ newspapers and TV stations report it?

Will they state the facts or will they spin it as " a bold move made by a maverick Republican"?

[samtheman]

There are many great comments in the comment section after this article.

Here's a good example:

Posted by: Stan G.
Nov 01, 05:37 PM
The RINO's instincts are almost always wrong. To the extent we listen to the Republican Party leadership, we will continue to lose. IT IS NOT COMPLICATED. Do what is best for the country and you don't need to listen to leadership.

Stan G is absolutely right.

It's not complicated.

[listenhillary]

I wonder if that was her son in the sandals? Maybe an ACORN nut?

[samtheman]

Of course the media will lie and spin. But will YOU do what you can to get the TRUTH to your friends and relatives in NJ?

And if you don’t have any, plenty do. Like me. I’m working on it.

:)

[samtheman]

Scuzzballs of a feather flock together.

All TWO of them!

What a great pic. Thanks for posting it.

[Landru]

"This is a wake up call for the leaders of the Grand Old Party."

Y'think? LOL

OK, so what's a right-wing person to do when the *leaders* {spit} don't & won't wake up?

Only asking because, that's precisely where it's at right now.

[Cedric]

The latter.

[Cedric]

It looks like a spawn.

[joe fonebone]

simple solution....do not vote for a lib or dem lite under any circumstances....vote your consience and you will never go wrong

[TomGuy]

I ran across the link to the paragraph below in the earlier thread.

After reading the paragraph, no one should be surprised that Scozzafava endorsed her Dem opposition.

Gingrich is the one who should have some serious explaining to do.

Gingrich: A Vote for Hoffman Is a Vote for Pelosi

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:38:41 PM · 91 of 169
TomGuy to ellery


Interesting paragraph from that tcotreport.com link:


Reports of Scozzafava's recent statements on switching parties didn't help public perceptions of her either. Something happened on a vote, the report goes, and she got mad, publicly threatening to switch from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party. Scozzafava quickly retracted her party switch threat, but the damage was done. Rumors abound that should she win the special election as a Republican she might switch to the Democratic party in the 2010 election, especially since she is certain to face Republican primary opposition should she win. Last week, the Weekly Standard ran a story which stated that she would not confirm she would run in 2010 as a Republican. Hours after the story was posted, her campaign spokesman stated that she would, indeed run as a Republican in 2010 should she win, but the candidate herself has not yet made such a public statement.

She doesn't sound all that different that the GOP's 2008 'standard bearer' John "I wanna be a Dem" McCain who

• (1) Considered jumping parties in 2000,
• (2) Wanted to be the VP on John Kerry's Democratic ticket in 2004, and
• (3) Really wanted his good Democrat-Independent friend Lieberman as his VP in 2008.

==

It is amazing how the Dems manage to get choice candidates on BOTH tickets.

[Cedric]

Are you referring to primaries or general elections?

[Puddleglum]

“The party got its hat handed to it in the last election by running the most “moderate” candidate in decades why do they continue in the same vein that didn’t work last time?”

Tom Cole in charge of the 2006 Republican Election Committee Waterloo? Did they use the "run to the middle" strategy then?

[Landru]

"simple solution....do not vote for a lib or dem lite under any circumstances....vote your consience and you will never go wrong"

Thanks, joe. You're correct. I'll be seriously considering a no vote as my vote. But old habits are hard to break, y'know?

Particularly difficult for those hardwired a certain way.

[TomGuy]

“The party got its hat handed to it in the last election by running the most “moderate” candidate in decades why do they continue in the same vein that didn’t work last time?”

They keep doing the same thing, but expect a different result.

Look how many of the 'big honchos' in the GOP were initially for Scozzafava. And many of those same GOP honchos still advocate big-tent-ism and being more Dem-like.

[SumProVita]

My question:

WHAT is the Republican party leadership going to DO about this???????

[Scanian]

Beck’s “progressive” argument works pretty well re. the NY 23rd situation.

Dhimmis and RINOs: two sides of the same coin.

[Erik Latranyi]

The leadership. The leadership chooses what they like. They like Lefties, because they are Lefties.

This is a well-thought strategy from Obama. Appoint McHugh, open the seat and run two liberals who will support his agenda.

[Scanian]

I read that as the sign quoting Hoffman as telling Dede to “stop lying.”

If so, the colon is mighty important.

Bad sign, regardless of who was using it. Misleading.

[Rutles4Ever]

This may have sunk any presidential hopes for Gingrich. What a boondoggle!!

Seriously, couldn’t happen to a better man - one who claims he’s a magnificent convert to the Catholic faith, then gives his full support to a death merchant like this. What a disappointment. It appears now that a vote for Gingrich would be a vote for Pelosi, too.

[Scanian]

What a snake. The people in that district are well rid of her.

[Scanian]

Scuzzi’s political career as a pubbie should be officially over.

[BobL]

“Scuzzi’s political career as a pubbie should be officially over.”

...and so is Newt’s.

[who knows what evil?]

His new book just dropped from the Amazon Top 100 after two weeks. Meanwhile, Levin’s book is STILL there...

[AMiller]

That picture in response 6 was taken as Deedee set up a campaign stop in front of Hoffman’s headquarters. That’s why there are lots of Hoffman signs in the background.

[John Leland 1789]

Let’s ask the question: Is there a concerted strategy in the Democrat Party to run Democrats clandestinely as Republicans?

I’m talking about an actual conspiracy at the top of the Democrat Party, and/or among organizations that would back radical leftist causes, to train people to disguise themselves as moderate Republicans and run as such. Purpose, to weaken and destroy the Republican Party itself.

[goodwithagun]

Wow. That tells me everything. Making a campaign stop in front of an opponent’s headquarters is so Democrat.

[verga]

[SumProVita]

“Scuzzi’s political career as a pubbie should be officially over.”

Yes, it should be BUT....will the Republican Party make this OFFICIALLY clear?

[Scanian]

Maybe but we need to remember that we are talking about NY state, the original home of Rockefeller Republicanism.

[SumProVita]

“Let’s ask the question: Is there a concerted strategy in the Democrat Party to run Democrats clandestinely as Republicans?”

I have wondered about this for some time now.

[Covenantor]

Let’s ask the question: Is there a concerted strategy in the Democrat Party to run Democrats clandestinely as Republicans?

I’m talking about an actual conspiracy at the top of the Democrat Party, and/or among organizations that would back radical leftist causes, to train people to disguise themselves as moderate Republicans and run as such. Purpose, to weaken and destroy the Republican Party itself.

Well there is the issue of the open primaries. Leave the barn door open and who knows what crawls in. Certainly the Dems, Acorn and unions took advantage of that. From there it's no big thing to sabotage and or run moles.

Take a look at the NY GOP site and go to the tab that asks, "Thinking about running for office? They provide full service assistance with no mention of establishing any sort of bona fides.

[Scanian]

You can tell that’s Ded standing at a lectern at the right. Which is why I took the guy with the “Stop Lying” sign as being part of the larger Hoffman group. Red hat as well.

[Scanian]

I think it has been for a long time—he’s just now figuring it out.

The PSA with Pelosi was the killer for me. Truly stomach-turning.

[listenhillary]

Did you see the attractive conservative in the blue sweater holding the Hoffman sign? Contrast that with Deedee.

[joe fonebone]

the whole ball of wax....i am personally tired of voting to take this country to the left out of “party unity” or the tired “a vote for the independent is a vote for the democrat” crap...here is the scoop, if the pubs give me a lib or democrat lite, i will not vote the party line, i will vote conservative, and this vote in new york, and the fact that scuzzball, or whatever the hell her name is, turned around and endorsed the dem, is all the proof i need...either the party leaders get their shit together or my vote is gone...no more compromise

[driftless2]

I’ve talked to a number of family members and co-workers who think candidates should not be so “biased” in favor of certain positions. In short, they feel all candidates should be moderates. My opinion is if you don’t stand for something, you don’t stand for anything. I respect a Dennis Kucinich a lot more for saying out loud that he’s a liberal than fake populists or Republicans who turn into committed libs once elected.

[Cedric]

In NY23 there is a third (conservative) option.

What are ya gonna do in a general election where there are only two choices?

[stevio]

Really done with Newt over all this.

[Cedric]

What about fake conservative Blue Dog Democrats?

[airborne]

I don’t have any relatives in NJ.

The last time I was in NJ was at a VA hospital in East Orange, and I never want to go back there!

[paulycy]

Dede Scozzafava proves her detractors right!

Everybody be sure not to tell Mojave. He/she/they will just get upset and start denying everything again...

[joe fonebone]

then i guess i leave that particular slot blank.......or write in my own name...but i will not under any circumstances vote lib or lib lite...not another time, not another vote..i have been holding my nose for over 35 years...no longer

[Cedric]

i leave that particular slot blank.......or write in my own name

Same as votin' for the guy you hate the most.

[Eagle Eye]

I absolutely HATE it when someone claims that a vote for X is really a vote for Y.

Faulty assumptions; faulty logic.

They will soon learn that they can’t just field a candidate and expect non Democrats to just vote for the GOP candidate.

In NY 23 for instance, many many voters would not vote for Dede anyway. So if they did not vote for Hoffman they just would not vote.

We’re not going to help elect substandard or inferior candidates anymore. Just not gonna do it.

[Cedric]

Sorry it bugs you, but under certain circumstances it’s true.

Sorry you can’t (or won’t) see that.

[Condor51]

*** In one fell swoop she proved her detractors right. ***

And also proved that Newt is an out of touch Beltway bonehead.

Sheesh, it was a known fact that she considered running as a Democrat in the first place.

[1Old Pro]

THE FUNNY THING IS THAT NEWT IS STILL DEFENDING HIS BONEHEADED DECISION to support this Democrat.

Newt, if you first can’t admit when you’re wrong you can’t get on the road to recovery - stop digging.