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CIT Files for Bankruptcy (received 2.3 billion in bailout money)
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Posted on 11/01/2009 1:59:46 PM PST by Chet 99
Update | 3:46 p.m. Three months ago, the CIT Group barely averted what it considered to be a ruinous bankruptcy filing that would likely have put the 101-year-old lender out of business.
On Sunday afternoon, the company filed for Chapter 11 but under a so-called prepackaged bankruptcy plan that will enable it to emerge from court protection by the end of the year, under the control of its debtholders. (Read the filing after the jump.)
The filing, made in a Manhattan federal court, will still mean much pain for many parties, beginning with taxpayers. CIT received $2.3 billion in government aid last year, a bailout that came in the form of preferred stock. That will almost certainly be wiped out in the bankruptcy process, the first realized loss in the governments rescue of the financial system.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bailouts; bankruptcy; cit; citgroup
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posted on
11/01/2009 1:59:46 PM PST
by
Chet 99
To: Chet 99; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ..
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:02:11 PM PST
by
Nachum
(The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
To: Chet 99
blew through 2.3 billion.. and STILL went out of business!
Thanks Government!
/sarc
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:02:16 PM PST
by
TexasFreeper2009
(Obama lied, the economy died)
To: Chet 99
for 2.3 billion, I could turn my entire downtown into a paradise!
Sigh.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:03:24 PM PST
by
TexasFreeper2009
(Obama lied, the economy died)
To: Chet 99
It will be interesting to see what the stock market will do with this news come Monday morning. Barry’s so called recovery is taking another big hit.
To: Chet 99
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:04:21 PM PST
by
kcvl
To: Chet 99
wonder how open interest on nov and dec options is. gm gave a big sqeeze trade on same.
To: Chet 99
This is a bad noise for small business.
Watch for a huge spike in small business bankruptcy.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:04:31 PM PST
by
OpusatFR
(Tagline not State Approved.)
To: Chet 99
CIT received $2.3 billion in government aid
Wouldn't you just love to know where all that went?
Follow the Obama money.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:05:12 PM PST
by
Don Corleone
("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
To: Chet 99
I will file for bankruptcy for 5 million . Tell your congressman to let me help .
10
posted on
11/01/2009 2:05:38 PM PST
by
kbennkc
(For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
To: OpusatFR
Any impact to small business will be nominal....CIT hasn’t been lending for a while....
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:06:23 PM PST
by
nevergore
("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
To: Chet 99
This is a bad noise for small business.
Watch for a huge spike in small business bankruptcy.
12
posted on
11/01/2009 2:06:55 PM PST
by
OpusatFR
(Tagline not State Approved.)
To: Chet 99
The market will go UP tomorrow as a result.
13
posted on
11/01/2009 2:07:08 PM PST
by
WellyP
To: Parley Baer
CIT going bankrupt has been a known quantity for a while, or at least highly probable. the details are what has been being worked out.
To: Chet 99
This really sucks. Credit will be even harder to get for many wholesalers and other medium sized companies. They all rely on CIT style financing to maintain inventory.
GE will probably get the best customers, the rest get to go suck eggs. Local banks sure can’t help.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:08:49 PM PST
by
A.Hun
(Common sense is no longer common.)
To: Chet 99
More evidence that the Commie-Socialist Bank & Wall Street Bailout was a disaster.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:09:48 PM PST
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: Chet 99; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; Roy Tucker; GOPJ; ...
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:10:07 PM PST
by
TigerLikesRooster
(LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
To: All
I can only hope that the top executives at that company suffer great personal financial loss.
I’m sure they’re parachutes are packed, but I hope they feel alot of pain, after raising CC rates to 27 percent.
Immoral userers.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:13:27 PM PST
by
rbmillerjr
(It's us against them...the Establishment RINOs vs rank and file...Sarah Palin or bust)
To: Chet 99
Didn't GM also just show up at the door last week asking for another $10 billion or so? When does this insanity stop?
The taxpayers long ago ran out of money, so I suppose the only thing left to pawn is our pride - or maybe China will simply agree to take our entire country in trade? At least then somebody will get to drill our oil!
19
posted on
11/01/2009 2:13:49 PM PST
by
Gritty
(The simple truth is that government debt is our debt - Peter Schiff)
To: Chet 99
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:14:56 PM PST
by
parsifal
(Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
To: Chet 99
This was a small business bank. This is not good news at all. Obamay let this one fail, but others not. This is really, really, bad.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:16:28 PM PST
by
lookout88
(.combat rescue officer's dad,)
To: Chet 99
Check out the futures at
Bloomberg.com here. I'm not familiar with how futures work, so I'll ask if this is as bad as I think it is?
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:18:00 PM PST
by
TwelveOfTwenty
(Hey Nancy, how many jobs have been lost since you and the Democrats took Congress?)
To: Chet 99
Anyone hear about Barney Franks proposal to give the executive branch carte blanche to bailout whoever is ‘too big to fail’ without going through the legislature?
To: rbmillerjr
Im sure theyre parachutes are packed, but I hope they feel alot of pain, after raising CC rates to 27 percent. CIT and Citibank are two completely separate entities. No relationship exists between them.
To: Gritty
It stops when we say it stops and not until then.
Apparently, we’re not finished bending over yet.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:23:59 PM PST
by
Lorianne
To: lookout88
I’m hoping BoA has to sell shares and will pay back bailout
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:25:14 PM PST
by
Gondring
(Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
To: willieroe
My error! No effect on the market tomorrow. It has always been factored in!
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:28:31 PM PST
by
WellyP
To: Chet 99
The filing, made in a Manhattan federal court, will still mean much pain for many parties, beginning with taxpayers. CIT received $2.3 billion in government aid last year, a bailout that came in the form of preferred stock. That will almost certainly be wiped out in the bankruptcy process, the first realized loss in the governments rescue of the financial system. I expect a lot of other TARP gifts from taxpayers to big money political donors to disappear the same way. This may be the first loss "realized" on the books, but sensible people realized a year ago that most of the money flushed down the TARP toilet was gone.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:29:20 PM PST
by
TurtleUp
([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
To: Chet 99
Small businesses...generating approx 70% of job growth in a normal (non-0bambi) economy and major CIT clients will take another hit.
Expect an up-tick in unemployment figures.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:33:43 PM PST
by
spokeshave
(Obama can't unjump the shark "Obama Wa Nobel-sho Ni Ataeshinai" ("Obama Unworthy of Nobel Prize"))
To: lookout88
It didn’t fail. They just wiped out the liability to the taxpayers. Almost everyone else will come out whole.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:36:13 PM PST
by
PAR35
To: Nachum
To: trumandogz
Yeah, that worked out soooo well!
SOB’s ~!
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:45:30 PM PST
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
To: Chet 99
How's the bail-out working for ya, CIT Group?? The Zero sure saved ya .. didn't he?
Just the first of many...
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:45:31 PM PST
by
Lurking in Kansas
(Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
To: Chet 99
Ka ching...the people s*****d out of $2.3 billion, the bankers made out like bandits...and the Obama/Geithner team should go to jail for this.
And don’t say Bush...this was the doing of Bernanke/Geithner very conveniently in an election year for the Obama team.
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posted on
11/01/2009 2:54:31 PM PST
by
RowdyFFC
(The opinion of a wise Welshtino woman...)
To: Chet 99
Check out the futures at Bloomberg.com here. I'm not familiar with how futures work, so I'll ask if this is as bad as I think it is? The futures are unchanged from when I posted earlier, so I guess they're just not tracking them yet. False alarm!
35
posted on
11/01/2009 3:00:43 PM PST
by
TwelveOfTwenty
(Hey Nancy, how many jobs have been lost since you and the Democrats took Congress?)
To: Chet 99
The weather vane doth point in the direction the wind blows.
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:06:31 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
To: OpusatFR
"
Watch for a huge spike in small business bankruptcy." The Marxist Make-over of America is on schedule!
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:08:44 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
To: rockrr
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:11:29 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
To: Chet 99
Yeah, but just think how much worse it would have been if they had not received any bailout money.
They may have gone bankrupt or something.
This is much better than expected.
To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
You forgot the sarcasm tag.
Please, tell me you forgot the sarcasm tag.
40
posted on
11/01/2009 3:13:14 PM PST
by
John W
To: Chet 99
The filing, made in a Manhattan federal court, will still mean much pain for many parties, beginning with taxpayers. CIT received $2.3 billion in government aid last year, a bailout that came in the form of preferred stock. That will almost certainly be wiped out in the bankruptcy process, the first realized loss in the governments rescue of the financial system. Obama is thumbs up and giddy in the Oval Office.
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:13:20 PM PST
by
EGPWS
(Trust in God, question everyone else)
To: Chet 99
What a waste. They coulda bailed me out for 1/1000th of that, but I guess it wouldn’t help if the dollar is soon worthless anyway...
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:14:12 PM PST
by
GnuHere
To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
I only say that because, I’m no longer sure of anyone anywhere, including here.
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:14:26 PM PST
by
John W
To: Chet 99
Anyone see Giethner this morning on Meet the Press? When asked if he would like to see AIG prosper after they pay back the TARP money, he said he didn’t care if they do or not. I thought we bailed them out because they were too big to fail.
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:14:29 PM PST
by
optiguy
(Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
To: PAR35
Almost everyone else will come out whole.
No they won't. Common stockholders will be wiped out, the gov't and private preferred stock holders will be wiped out, debt holders will take a $10 billion loss on nearly $65 billion of debt.
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:16:14 PM PST
by
javachip
(TARP - proof there is no situation so bad that government can't make it worse.)
To: Parley Baer
I was just thinking that.
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:18:59 PM PST
by
hsmomx3
(HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO..........)
To: rbmillerjr
"raising CC rates to 27 percent."
Oh, you are one of those people that knows what gouging is. Couly you please tell us?
In the Middle ages, most loans were very short-term and carried the interest of 100-120% (in Germany, for instance). Was that gouging or usury?
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:20:17 PM PST
by
TopQuark
To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Yeah, but just think how much worse it would have been if they had not received any bailout money. They may have gone bankrupt or something.
This is much better than expected.
You bet!
Look at the bright side, think of all the government employed printing press operators jobs that were saved or created.
And they already have a premium health care plan to boot!
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:21:07 PM PST
by
EGPWS
(Trust in God, question everyone else)
To: Parley Baer
The DOW futures are already heading south as of 6:00 pm ET.
To: Chet 99
Lending to this entity at that time represents malfeasance, at best. Using taxpayer funds seems criminal to me.
Someone needs to stop tarp or stimulus funds from going to entities that more than likely will file BK within a few months.
We are so screwed.
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posted on
11/01/2009 3:23:50 PM PST
by
unique
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