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Maddow Guest Jane Hamsher: Democrats Could Close Groton Sub Base to Punish Lieberman
Newsbusters ^ | 31/Oct | Jack Coleman

Posted on 10/31/2009 12:12:42 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out

Yet another example of the folly of assigning liberals to guard duty. Joining Rachel Maddow on her MSNBC show Thursday to vent about that pesky wabbit Joe Lieberman was Fire Dog Lake blogger Jane Hamsher.

Democrats wield considerable leverage over Lieberman, Hamsher opined, to keep him from joining a GOP filibuster of ObamaCare or punish him if he does --

MADDOW: ... I think you’re right to point out that other senators sort of gently expressing their disapproval of his proverbial toplessness at this point is a bigger deal than it would be in the real world, that their words do actually sort of calibrate differently. But what leverage can they really bring to bear on him in order to get him to get in line?

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; chuckposts; defensespending; democrats; groton; hamsher; lieberman; military; msnbc; pettydems; submarine
cartoon I see: democrat ass thinks ..ooo( US military = pawn for petty politics games )
1 posted on 10/31/2009 12:12:43 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Never happen.


2 posted on 10/31/2009 12:14:16 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
But, you know, he also needs the sub base at Groton, which is, you know, the submarine version of the F-22, in order to stay in the good graces of Connecticut's citizens while he does stuff like this, and that's something that could, you know, potentially go as well.

Yeah, let's put hard-working Americans out of work to score petty political party points in DC.

3 posted on 10/31/2009 12:16:15 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Right - let’s put America in jeopardy because of petty politics.


4 posted on 10/31/2009 12:18:49 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: tired1

Maybe we should threaten Maddow with getting rid of Female wallet chains, Wahl hair trimmers and reruns of “The L Word”. Nothing like a person with what up till 30 years ago the American Psychological Association called a mental disorder, lecturing on what the rest of us normal people should think. Yes Rachel you are defective and evil, that voice that screams at you before you drift off at night is right.


5 posted on 10/31/2009 12:20:19 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

And those boats and schools would go where, exactly?


6 posted on 10/31/2009 12:21:19 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: DTogo
But, you know, he also needs the sub base at Groton, which is, you know, the submarine version of the F-22, in order to stay in the good graces of Connecticut's citizens while he does stuff like this, and that's something that could, you know, potentially go as well.

Did Hillary say that?

7 posted on 10/31/2009 12:21:30 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
I think you’re right to point out that other senators sort of gently expressing their disapproval of his proverbial toplessness at this point is a bigger deal than it would be in the real world, that their words do actually sort of calibrate differently.

People actually listen to this garbage?

8 posted on 10/31/2009 12:21:41 PM PDT by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The Little Engine that Could is coming to New York ...)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
That will really help Dodd in his re-election campaign in 2010.
9 posted on 10/31/2009 12:21:50 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: tired1

If it did, it would represent another wrecked aspect of the US which I believe is 0’s ultimate goal anyway.


10 posted on 10/31/2009 12:23:37 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: HIDEK6
I can get a more coherent conversation from my cat. Total flakes. There used to be a time when people would be embarrassed when they said/did something stupid. Today we put them on T.V and pay them. God Lord.
11 posted on 10/31/2009 12:27:16 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Page 73, Johnson, Navin)
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To: onedoug

It seems that you are the only FR that sees that the need of a submarine building shipyard is in the best interests of America. We need submarines.


12 posted on 10/31/2009 12:27:43 PM PDT by encm(ss)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Defeat RATS ten to one,make em show their true commie leanings.


13 posted on 10/31/2009 12:28:35 PM PDT by Waco (Kiss an illegal aliens' axx and buckle yer seat belt, it's the law.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I grew up in East Lyme, and like many of my friends, my father worked at Electric Boat.

Of course the Democrats would close a major part of the economy to punish someone politically. The left is infamous for harming (or outright killing, depending on the culture) the citizens of a place for political misdeeds. It’s been that way since the Committee for Public Safety started executing priests and nuns for not towing the party line. So - no surprise here.

I also remember being a teenager in the 1970s and seeing what happened when Pres. Carter cancelled the submarine contracts. My hometown became a boarded-up ghost town - I moved away. Sad to see the Democrats are still treating southeastern Connecticut with the same disdain.


14 posted on 10/31/2009 12:29:21 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
All the more reason to kick thier a##es in 2010. Give me some more reasons, I'm sure you will, get me more pissed than I am today, I'm sure you definitely will.
15 posted on 10/31/2009 12:29:45 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
If threat is true just goes to show the RAT party headed by the new communists leader King Obama.
16 posted on 10/31/2009 12:29:48 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: bcsco

“People actually listen to this garbage?”

I’m not sure.


17 posted on 10/31/2009 12:31:18 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: pburgh01

18 posted on 10/31/2009 12:33:22 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Mmm mmm mmm - Barack Hussein Obama (repeat endlessly))
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To: nutmeg; chuck_the_tv_out

Political extortion.


19 posted on 10/31/2009 12:35:17 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

It amuses me to see how utterly deranged the left, especially the nut-jobs on MSNBC, are about Liebermann. I guess the idea of a RAT developing a conscience really disturbs them.


20 posted on 10/31/2009 12:36:57 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

They keep getting lower and lower


21 posted on 10/31/2009 12:37:02 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Exactly! National security, not important. Political payback, very important.

They sure don’t mind the public seeing them for who they are.


22 posted on 10/31/2009 12:37:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: encm(ss)
It seems that you are the only FR that sees that the need of a submarine building shipyard is in the best interests of America. We need submarines.

Don't diss other freepers.

NONE have called for the closing.

23 posted on 10/31/2009 12:38:19 PM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

The fact that they would even talk this way is another reminder why liberals should never be in charge of anything important.


24 posted on 10/31/2009 12:38:29 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: ErnBatavia

Thats not a girl


25 posted on 10/31/2009 12:41:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: pburgh01

Also dont forget about threatening Maddow with shutting down Snap On Tools.


26 posted on 10/31/2009 12:44:47 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support Sarah. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/sarahpalin?ref=nf)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I doubt it since it will hurt Dodd’s chance to be reelected.


27 posted on 10/31/2009 12:44:53 PM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: ronnie raygun

28 posted on 10/31/2009 12:48:09 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: redpoll

“VOX CLAMANT IN DESERTO” will prevail !
DON’T GIVE UP ! SHAME ON THEM !


29 posted on 10/31/2009 12:48:30 PM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

The Red diaper-doper babies would jeopardize the security of our nation in order to get petty political vengeance? Take away their pacifiers and rattles.


30 posted on 10/31/2009 12:48:43 PM PDT by RoadTest ( But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do)
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To: DTogo; Doohickey; CPOSharky; neverdem; Congressman Billybob; CholeraJoe; patton; hobbes1; ...

Did you notice that “common sense” and “national defense” and “dollars and cents” had NO place in this discussion between two democrats?


31 posted on 10/31/2009 12:49:13 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: redpoll
I echo your sentiments. Orange County has always been a thorn in the Dems side, here, in Calif; let the record show the OC vote plurality, in 1990 denied DiFi the governorship that she lost. I found it to be no coincidence that a few years later, during the Clinton administrations, our two big military bases, El Toro and Tustin USMC Air Stations were shuttered. Everything with these clowns is about politics and power, first. Anyone who thinks that there is not at least a kernel of truth in this threat against Lieberman and Conn is sadly mistaken.
32 posted on 10/31/2009 12:49:44 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Remember all the bases that Clinton closed? I find this to be a credible threat.


33 posted on 10/31/2009 12:54:02 PM PDT by publana (Obama, you will not intimidate me into not voicing my opinions.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Thatw the Dems for you: Party over the people! Party over the National Defense! Party Uber Alles!


34 posted on 10/31/2009 12:55:14 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: OCCASparky
Reopen Charleston. Naval Nuclear Power School is already down there.

Then again cooler heads may realize that concentrating more military forces in the part of the country most likely to secede again is not a good idea.

35 posted on 10/31/2009 12:56:33 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

At first, I thought the title said “Hamster”.

Hamsher, hamster, no real difference. Both are squirmy little rats.


36 posted on 10/31/2009 1:01:10 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: OCCASparky
And those boats and schools would go where, exactly?

Chicago!;-)

37 posted on 10/31/2009 1:01:44 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (For good judgment ask...What would Obama do? Then do the opposite!)
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To: ErnBatavia

Now why would parents go and name their son “Rachel”? He looks like a nice enough chap, but the name “Rachel” must have screwed him up.


38 posted on 10/31/2009 1:05:08 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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To: Richard from IL
I doubt it since it will hurt Dodd’s chance to be reelected.

Yup. Dodd AND the rest of the CT Congressional Delegation. Which is all Democrats.

Dodd and DeLauro have enough pull in the Senate and House to stop this sort of thing. Not that it's even going to be raised. The person raising the issue is a moron who doesn't understand the concept of 1.) political power and 2.) political collateral damage.
39 posted on 10/31/2009 1:11:55 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

More evidence that leftists are ONLY concerned with what is best for the nation!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


40 posted on 10/31/2009 1:29:19 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: publana

Incidentally, when is the next round of base closings scheduled?


41 posted on 10/31/2009 1:43:28 PM PDT by PIF
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Groton. A beautiful place full of ugly people.


42 posted on 10/31/2009 2:12:17 PM PDT by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Closing the Groton sub base might be enough to get every dimowit congress critter from CT fired in the next election cycle.

A better title might be “Democrats Form Circular Firing Squad Around Lieberman”


43 posted on 10/31/2009 2:23:58 PM PDT by javachip (TARP - proof there is no situation so bad that government can't make it worse.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

A dem president close a military base for political revenge. Absolutely. LBJ did it to the people of Amarillo, TX when he closed Amarillo AFB (a SAC - B52 base) right after the election when he defeated Goldwater. Amarillo and the Texas Panhandle went for Goldwater and Johnson immediately issued the order to close the base. LBJ never did understand why Texans would vote against another Texan in a national election. I would not put anything past a low life piece of $#!+ like zero...red


44 posted on 10/31/2009 2:23:58 PM PDT by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: encm(ss)

“Fifteen degrees down bubble.”

Thanks so much for your service.


45 posted on 10/31/2009 2:27:58 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

What’s the big deal? I thought the Dems were set to use the budget reconcilliation process — the so-called “nuclear option” to prevent a filibuster? I guess that was an empty threat?


46 posted on 10/31/2009 4:54:55 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: pburgh01

Rachel Maddow is a woman!?! Well I’ll be danged. I thought she was Ron Reagan Jr. Oh well, middle-aged eyesight is a b!tch


47 posted on 10/31/2009 6:28:25 PM PDT by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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To: DTogo

It’s not the job of the Government to provide anyone a job. If you really need the sub base for legitimate defense of this country, then yes, but let’s not kid ourselves about the hundreds of billions wasted on corporate welfare projects for defense co’s.


48 posted on 10/31/2009 6:31:22 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The Final Turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Democrats Could Close Groton Sub Base to Punish Lieberman

Within 48 hours Murtha would have a $500 million appropriation to study moving the sub base to his district.

49 posted on 10/31/2009 6:32:22 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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