U.N. talks in Spain seek to salvage climate deal

Reuters ^ | October 31, 2009 | By Alister Doyle

[Oldeconomybuyer]

OSLO (Reuters) - Climate negotiators from 175 nations meet in Spain next week for a final session to try to break deadlock between rich and poor and salvage a U.N. deal due in Copenhagen in December.

All sides agree progress has been too slow since talks began in 2007, spurred by findings by the U.N. Climate Panel that world emissions would have to peak by 2015 to avoid the worst of desertification, floods, extinctions or rising seas.

"Time has almost run out," Yvo de Boer, head of the U.N. Climate Change Secretariat, told delegates in a video message. "In Barcelona, all nations must step back from self-interest and let common interest prevail."

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Quick! This can't wait! We're gonna cool the planet by transfering wealth from American taxpayers to third-world dictators.

[Yardstick]

"In Barcelona, all nations must step back from self-interest and let common interest prevail."

One thing you've got to give these people is that they're always on message.

[WellyP]

CO2 DOES NOT add to glogal warming! It has been proved to be total BS! If you missed Lord Monckton and John Bolton on Beck last night here are the video links. This is a MUST SEE and HEAR!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-tCA5R0sWs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc56QceLR1Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ1lqexPcdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kENLw-zcSPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBOQfzmeyiU

[org.whodat]

Takes a lot of word-smithing to say we agree but we don’t.

[abclily]

And these people totally ignore scientific facts.

Scientific Fact 1) The sun is a huge ball of fire.

Scientific Fact 2) The earth is a tiny cold rock in comparison to the sun.

Scientific Fact 3) A human is less than a speck on the earth.

These 3 facts are scientific, since they can be measured.

Conclusion: Humans do not have the power nor the means to change the activities of the sun.

All politicians are aware of these facts, and yet they perpetuate the hoax. What are the politicians getting out of this hoax?

[Don Corleone]

I realize that the Senate is packed with socialist liberals but they still have to ratify any treaty that Bambi signs. Bring PRESSURE...PRESSURE...PRESSURE... mmmm...mmmm...mmmm.

[sourcery]

The debate actually is over…and the idea that human emissions of carbon dioxide will cause any significant degree of global warming has been categorically refuted and falsified. The empirically-measured change in the amount of energy radiating away from the Earth as a function of changes in sea surface temperature totally falsifies the IPCC climate models--and more importantly, completely falsifies the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis—total, categorical falsification, not simply invalidation of the alleged "proof" based on computer climate models:

• On the determination of climate feedbacks from ERBE data (peer-reviewed scientific paper);
• RESPONSE TO US SECRETARY OF ENERGY ON CLIMATE STATEMENT (explanation for non-scientists)

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[Delacon]

Job Losses From Obama Green Stimulus Foreseen in Spanish Study

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By Gianluca Baratti

March 27 (Bloomberg) -- Subsidizing renewable energy in the U.S. may destroy two jobs for every one created if Spain’s experience with windmills and solar farms is any guide.

For every new position that depends on energy price supports, at least 2.2 jobs in other industries will disappear, according to a study from King Juan Carlos University in Madrid.

U.S. President Barack Obama’s 2010 budget proposal contains about $20 billion in tax incentives for clean-energy programs. In Spain, where wind turbines provided 11 percent of power demand last year, generators earn rates as much as 11 times more for renewable energy compared with burning fossil fuels.

The premiums paid for solar, biomass, wave and wind power - - which are charged to consumers in their bills -- translated into a $774,000 cost for each Spanish “green job” created since 2000, said Gabriel Calzada, an economics professor at the university and author of the report.

“The loss of jobs could be greater if you account for the amount of lost industry that moves out of the country due to higher energy prices,” he said in an interview.

Spain’s Acerinox SA, the nation’s largest stainless-steel producer, blamed domestic energy costs for deciding to expand in South Africa and the U.S., according to the study.

“Microsoft and Google moved their servers up to the Canadian border because they benefited from cheaper energy there,” said the professor of applied environmental economics.

To contact the reporter on this story: Gianluca Baratti in Madrid at gbaratti@bloomberg.net