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Hillary alleges Pak's complicity with Al-Qaeda, Islamabad stunned
Indian Express ^ | Friday , Oct 30, 2009 at 1241 hrs | no byline

Posted on 10/30/2009 10:01:23 PM PDT by altair

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has questioned Pakistan's commitment to hunt top al-Qaeda leadership hiding inside the country and accused it of failing to track them down.

"Al-Qaeda has had safe haven in Pakistan since 2002... I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they are and couldn't get them if they really wanted to," Clinton told a group of senior Pakistani journalists in Lahore on Thursday.

"Maybe that's the case, maybe they're not gettable. I don't know... As far as we know, they are in Pakistan," she said in unusually blunt remarks during a visit to Pakistan that is aimed at mending fences and improving strained ties.

Clinton's comments - made when a journalist asked why the war on terror has focused so much on Pakistan – reflected concerns expressed recently by senior American diplomats, including Ambassador Anne Patterson.

(Excerpt) Read more at indianexpress.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedapakistan; bhogwot; gwot; hillary; pakistan; soshillary

Has this picture been posted anywhere on an American news web site?

1 posted on 10/30/2009 10:01:23 PM PDT by altair
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To: altair

That’s what happened when a US Secretary of State went to a country simply because the administration’s feeling was hurt that the Indian PM invited Bush for a dinner without telling them first. She said things that wouldn’t be helpful for her diplomatic efforts.


2 posted on 10/30/2009 10:07:23 PM PDT by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: altair

More importantly, what does Bill Clinton think of what’s going on in Pakistan?


3 posted on 10/30/2009 10:09:25 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: altair
The Drudge Report has a similar pic.

That's the only news web site I visit.

4 posted on 10/30/2009 10:10:01 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

Smoov deeplomahsee!


5 posted on 10/30/2009 10:10:38 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: altair

They both look like John Kerry.


6 posted on 10/30/2009 10:11:34 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: altair
"Al-Qaeda has had safe haven in Pakistan since 2002... I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they are and couldn't get them if they really wanted to," Clinton told a group of senior Pakistani journalists in Lahore on Thursday.

Cut 'em some slack, Hill. It's not like al-Qaeda hides behind the walls like they're Rose Law Firm billing records or something.

7 posted on 10/30/2009 10:12:05 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: altair

A stuck clock moment for Hillary! It makes one wonder. Hillary! has no authority in Pakistan, as Pakistan is the domain of Richard Holbrooke, Afghanistan and Pakistan Czar.


8 posted on 10/30/2009 10:18:11 PM PDT by magellan
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To: altair
"Al-Qaeda has had safe haven in Pakistan since 2002..."

I'm thinking they were there long before 2002. Probably back as far as....say, 1992.

Perhaps we could see what the President back in '92 knows. I wonder what he was doing.

Besides chubby interns, that is!

9 posted on 10/30/2009 10:18:16 PM PDT by airborne (I'm from an older generation. When killing the enemy was a good thing!)
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To: REDWOOD99

She’d look better in a burka and I find it remarkable that she went even this far ...


10 posted on 10/30/2009 10:19:34 PM PDT by altair (All I want for Christmas is NO legislation passed for the rest of the year)
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To: paudio

You’re wrong on this issue. She is stating facts to truth. And rather than being the usually polite but obtuse diplomat, she’s unloaded bigtime on the Pakistanis, who’ve been thinking and behaving all along as though Americans are stupid and gullible.

Well, no more. Islamic terrorists have been organizing, training, and operating from Pakistan’s territory. Nuclear materials and engineering knowledge have flowed to other rogue nations from Pakistan. America could eliminate a major part of our problems by nuking Pakistan but instead we’ve been treating them like responsible adults.

At least she is talking to them. I wouldn’t bother - the lack of veracity in Pakistan’s ruling elite means diplomatic relations is for naught.


11 posted on 10/30/2009 10:20:10 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: altair
What needs to happen

psst. Hillary dear, move a little to your left...

12 posted on 10/30/2009 10:29:08 PM PDT by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to bo th variation & deviation)
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To: airborne
Perhaps we could see what the President back in '92 knows.

That would be George HW Bush. Impeached ex-president Clinton did not take office until 1993 and in those days, what is now called Al-Qaeda were the Afghan "Freedom Fighters".

Maybe someone can also explain to me why Osama Bin Laden is considered the baddest guy when he is only a spoiled rich kid throwing his family's money at the truly dangerous Ayman Zawahiri in an attempt to be cool.

Mission Accomplished in Afghanistan == Ayman Zawahiri has assumed room temperature.

13 posted on 10/30/2009 10:34:09 PM PDT by altair (All I want for Christmas is NO legislation passed for the rest of the year)
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To: paudio

She speaks the truth.


14 posted on 10/30/2009 10:42:09 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: altair

This whole administration is so incredibly good at wrecking things (like economies and relationships), and so incredibly bad at building things (like the aforementioned) that you have to wonder if they’re really geniuses hell bent on doing exactly what they keep accomplishing. Sheesh!


15 posted on 10/30/2009 10:43:00 PM PDT by JohnQ1 (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: altair
Yes, I got the year wrong. Bush Sr. was happy to use AQ against the Russians, and Clinton couldn't be bothered with foreign policy, other than using it to make himself look good.

As for me, I'd be fine with us leaving Afghanistan. Too much PC BS keeping us from hammering the enemy into the dirt.

It's clear that Obama doesn't have the brains or the guts to fight this war. That, plus he doesn't have the heart to kill his Muslim brethren.

16 posted on 10/30/2009 10:48:16 PM PDT by airborne (I'm from an older generation. When killing the enemy was a good thing!)
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To: Texas Eagle

Sounds like the beast kicked the Paks in the scrotum sac. I think they needed that.


17 posted on 10/30/2009 10:50:55 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: paudio

This is what happens when Mr. Present himself wants everyone to think that Afghanistan harbors no terrorists.

They’re all in Pockeestahn so I don’t have to send more troops to Afghanistan.


18 posted on 10/30/2009 10:55:08 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: JohnQ1
Rush is right (again).


19 posted on 10/30/2009 10:56:04 PM PDT by altair (All I want for Christmas is NO legislation passed for the rest of the year)
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To: airborne
As for me, I'd be fine with us leaving Afghanistan.

Once we can leave with dignity, yes. Too many Americans have lost their lives for what appears to be an attempt to secure a pipeline to the Caspian Sea.

Too much PC BS keeping us from hammering the enemy into the dirt.

Yeah. There are all the signs of another Vietnam in the making.

20 posted on 10/30/2009 11:08:30 PM PDT by altair (All I want for Christmas is NO legislation passed for the rest of the year)
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To: altair

You go girl!


21 posted on 10/30/2009 11:08:39 PM PDT by dixjea
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To: SatinDoll

Actually, it’s worse than that. We stabbed our buddy Musharraf in the back when he became a political liability back here - one guy who understood the threat of terrorism and was prepared to deal with it.

In any event. I think Hillary’s off the Obama reservation on this one. She, like her husband, has always been kinda hawkish (remember she was for invading Iraq before she decided to be against it). She can talk all the tough talk at Pakistan that she wants, but her boss won’t back her up on it.


22 posted on 10/30/2009 11:29:41 PM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: eclecticEel
"...In any event. I think Hillary’s off the Obama reservation on this one....."

The Clintons don't do anything without cold calculation. By positioning herself as a standup hawk with some balls, she just became the anti-Obama in foreign affairs.

Wanna bet she'll challenge Lord Zero for the nomination in 2012?

More to come from Herself, methinks. Watch for her to move stridently toward the middle so she can secure more of the Dem base, especially the Blue Dogs.

23 posted on 10/30/2009 11:53:50 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Victor

Zero’s getting ready to leave the Afghanistan/Pakistan theater and let the Taliban overrun the place and become a nuclear power.

First they said “things have changed in Afghanistan” and “we need a reliable partner”.

So Karzai said he would agree to new elections.

Oops...

So next they leaked that Karzai’s brother is a drug lord. They’ve got to get the guy under the bus somehow.

Now Hillary says the Pakistanis in in league with Al Qeada.

This is nothing to applaud folks. It is a prelude to U.S. defeat in the WOT.

Zero is so dumb he thinks our withdrawal from the region will approve his negotiating position with Iran.


24 posted on 10/31/2009 12:04:52 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: SatinDoll
You’re wrong on this issue. She is stating facts to truth. And rather than being the usually polite but obtuse diplomat, she’s unloaded bigtime on the Pakistanis, who’ve been thinking and behaving all along as though Americans are stupid and gullible.

Yup. Despite her typically Democratic whining about Bush to a Pakistani audience, she told the Pakistanis some things they should have been hearing years ago. This is why I'd have preferred Clinton in the WH over Obama - at least when it comes to foreign policy she's twice the man he is.
25 posted on 10/31/2009 12:15:10 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SatinDoll

I know she’s right on issue. I was talking in terms of diplomacy. The administration didn’t want to engage them directly until recently when it’s leaked that Bush was invited to a dinner. They had been in power for more than 9 months, Al Qaeda had been roaming for long, and yet only now decided to tell what it is.


26 posted on 10/31/2009 1:03:04 AM PDT by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: paudio

Another sign of the apocalypse...I agree with Hilary Clinton


27 posted on 10/31/2009 2:13:41 AM PDT by rman04554
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