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Lieberman Marching Further Right in 2010
ABCNews.com ^ | 10/30/09 | JONATHAN KARL

Posted on 10/30/2009 6:43:57 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

Sounding more like an independent than a Democrat, Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., tells ABC News he will campaign for some Republican candidates during the 2010 midterm elections and may not seek the Democratic Senate nomination when he runs for re-election in 2012.

"I probably will support some Republican candidates for Congress or Senate in the election in 2010. I'm going to call them as I see them," Lieberman said in an ABC News "Subway Series" interview aboard the U.S. Capitol Subway System.

Lieberman infuriated fellow Democrats in 2008 by supporting Republican presidential nominee John McCain as well as congressional candidates Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 2010; 2012; connecticut; ct2010; independents; joelieberman; lieberman; republicans

1 posted on 10/30/2009 6:43:58 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Is Olympia Snow going to be campaigning for any Republicans? Just asking.


2 posted on 10/30/2009 6:46:27 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Lieberman is not a conservative. I guess he just isn’t liberal enough for the media


3 posted on 10/30/2009 6:47:35 AM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: OldDeckHand

It will interesting if Lieberman continues to caucus with Democrats. I imagine that he’s pissed them off quite a bit in the past year. If he gets stripped of his chairmanships, I bet he bolts the caucus.


4 posted on 10/30/2009 6:47:54 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: OldDeckHand

I think Lieberman is smelling the TEA in the air.


5 posted on 10/30/2009 6:47:55 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: OldDeckHand

Lieberman is an extreme leftist on most matters, but he does have some common sense in two key areas: defense and fiscal responsibility.

Lieberman knows that the Connecticut GOP leadership is really weak and that they will not be able to field a candidate to challenge him. His best hope is gain the support of conservatives who have no where else to go.


6 posted on 10/30/2009 6:49:35 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: OldDeckHand

I won’t count on LIEberman at all. He will say no to gummint option and vote yes on trigger option.

Same thing, different name.


7 posted on 10/30/2009 6:56:43 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: GeronL

I think the Dhimmis are making him feel uncomfortable. He may be thinking of a switch, sort of a off-set of Specter.

He’d fit right in with the rest of the Northeastern RINO’s. Nobody needs another one of those.

It would surely infuriate Hussein and Dingy Harry, though, which makes the move worthwhile if he decides to do it.


8 posted on 10/30/2009 6:57:27 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: OldDeckHand

Lieberman ain’t movin’ right. He’s standin’ still.
Its the Democrats headin’ left that makes it look that way.


9 posted on 10/30/2009 6:58:11 AM PDT by Little Ray (Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Seems like he’s been distancing himself from the other CT senator. He was conspicously absent from the 0bama /Dodd grub fest in Stamford last week. He claims for religious reasons but I think he doesn’t want to be seen in the same light as Dudd.


10 posted on 10/30/2009 6:59:16 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: OldDeckHand

BTTT


11 posted on 10/30/2009 7:04:40 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Scanian

His ACU rating is like 15, thats barely higher than Dede Scozzafava


12 posted on 10/30/2009 7:08:45 AM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Who is not against us, is for us. Unlike NY-23, I doubt a strong conservative could win the Conn. Senate race. Therefore, Newt’s point would be valid in this situation b/c it would be 1 vote less for Reid if nothing else. If he switches we ought to welcome him, but kindly remind him that it he who sought the GOP out and not vice versa.


13 posted on 10/30/2009 7:09:17 AM PDT by Lou Budvis (There is no alternative. - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: GeronL
Lieberman is not a conservative.

True. OTOH, is also neither a lying opportunist or a mind-numbed fool.

14 posted on 10/30/2009 7:11:48 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: Lou Budvis

When Lieberman came in, he was considered on the far left of the Dems. Now, he’s considered a screaming Right-wing nut by many in the party, and is far right of those in the White House. It shows just how far out of mainstream the Dem party has strayed.


15 posted on 10/30/2009 7:13:19 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: Carley
"He will say no to gummint option and vote yes on trigger option."

While anything is possible in politics, he came out on Monday morning and said forcefully and without equivocation he would not be voting for the public option or the trigger.

Then, some made some noise about him saying he would vote for cloture. He came back and clarified. He will vote for cloture to get the bill out of committee, but WILL NOT vote for cloture when the bill comes to the floor. He will join the Republican filibuster. In both instances, he's to the right of Olympia Snowe.

16 posted on 10/30/2009 7:13:32 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: kidd
but he does have some common sense in two key areas: defense and fiscal responsibility.

THOSE are the two most important ISSUES affecting all Americans.

17 posted on 10/30/2009 7:17:45 AM PDT by 08bil98z24 (The WOD is unconstitutional ------>>> NObama)
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To: 08bil98z24

BTTT


18 posted on 10/30/2009 7:20:56 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Little Ray

Well put.


19 posted on 10/30/2009 7:24:07 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Page 73, Johnson, Navin)
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To: rstrahan
"It shows just how far out of mainstream the Dem party has strayed."

For this reason, I think he'll easily win reelection in 2012. With Dodd in trouble in CT, it shows that while the party is moving to the left, most people in CT are not - like Lieberman. And, if that is happening in CT, it could be happening in other NE states.

20 posted on 10/30/2009 7:24:34 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: OldDeckHand

I have no problem, and never have, with honest liberals who have a different point of view from me....provided they aren’t idealogues who aren’t hell bent on destroying our way of life, like Pelosi. Whom I consider the spawn of the Devil himself.

I have always thought Joe Lieberman to be one of the most thoroughly decent human beings (who happens to be too liberal for me on most things) around. I think he’s one of the rare libs that would cut off a limb, rather than hurt the country.

And he’s putting his nuts on the line, announcing he figures to campaign for some Republicans. He knows that it will cost him his chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee, as the Dems are so vindictive.

That is the definition of a principled patriot, regardless of party affiliation.

Which reminds me, it’s something like endorsing an obscure candidate in third place in some race in NY. A person who ignores the letter after the name and endorses on idealogy. :)


21 posted on 10/30/2009 7:32:51 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: OldDeckHand

If Lieberman does switch to the GOP (which I doubt), then posters here will bash him as a dirty RINO who must be purged from the party. Lieberman is more liberal than Snowe and Specter.


22 posted on 10/30/2009 7:42:53 AM PDT by yongin
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To: yongin

It never ceases to amaze me how Hannity and some on this board fell in “luv” with this guy ... even to the point of a possibility of McLosers running mate. It proves my point over and over .. most americans have brain cells that are seldom used .... they forget what happened in the prior week.

Did anybody remember the different tune Lie ..beer Man took as ALgor’z running maate .. he was trying to out liberal a very liberal ALgor. Lie . beer man threw all his core values (not that he had many) under the bus for Algor.

He will never become a stinking RINO even if he did switch.. he IS just another worthless liberal career politician. Nothing toooo hard to understand about that. Actually .. I see very little difference between a liberal and a RINO if truth be told.


23 posted on 10/30/2009 7:53:18 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: OldDeckHand

if he follows through he can kiss his seat goodbye next election, I doubt his constituents will reward him with another term for this (if he follows through)


24 posted on 10/30/2009 9:00:45 AM PDT by houston1
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To: kidd

Yeah weird state that CT conservatives have found themselves in; it would be interesting if CT also elected Peter Schiff as US Senator as well!


25 posted on 10/30/2009 9:21:55 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: OldDeckHand; Clintonfatigued; campaignPete R-CT; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; darkangel82; ...

Hamlet Lieberman continues to manipulate the GOP for his own ends. Have a moonbat to challenge him on the Dem side and suckers the GOP into supporting him and keeps voting 90%+ leftist and continues caucusing with the very rodents who “claim” to oppose him. We need to field a solid Conservative candidate against him in ‘12 and he and the moonbat Dem nominee take the remainder of the vote. Wake up, guys, you’re being played !


26 posted on 10/30/2009 9:52:12 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: houston1
"I doubt his constituents will reward him with another term for this (if he follows through)"

I don't know. CT Dems are wildly social liberals - way left wing. But, there's an thread of fiscal conservatism (small c) that runs through the state. They don't like huge deficits - which is exactly what they're getting. Look at Dodd. He was at one time untouchable in CT.

A social conservative could never get elected in CT. But, a strong fiscal conservative might. I think Lieberman won't be touched, but Dodd could be unseated.

27 posted on 10/30/2009 10:11:21 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: OldDeckHand
"A social conservative could never get elected in CT. But, a strong fiscal conservative might."

No such thing as being fiscally Conservative without being a social Conservative. Contradiction in terms. A social liberal requires big government, high taxation and big spending. You can, however, be a social Conservative and fiscal liberal.

28 posted on 10/30/2009 10:24:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
'No such thing as being fiscally Conservative without being a social Conservative. Contradiction in terms"

Well, we could be arguing semantics. There are PLENTY of devout libertarians that are pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage, pro drug legalization, clear separation of Church and State but want only a minimal amount of government spending - at the state and federal level, to include low taxes and no deficit spending. Penn Gillette and his "Bullsh!t" series immediately come to mind. I believe most people would describe them and him as "social liberals" and "fiscal conservatives". Certainly, that's how I intended my comment.

29 posted on 10/30/2009 10:40:02 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Oh, there may be people that subscribe to the contradiction in terms privately, but when the rubber hits the road where it counts, with respect to our elected officials, it simply doesn't exist. How many RINOs I've heard claim to be that, and yet they consistently vote for big government and Socialist policies. Arlen Specter used to claim that schtick until he knew he couldn't play it anymore and win as a Republican. His switching back to the Democrats (which he was until the '60s when the Philly political machine didn't want to run him as one) was the first intellectually honest thing he did in his entire career.
30 posted on 10/30/2009 10:54:24 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: OldDeckHand

Come on over Joe, we have a big tent and you are a very good example of what moderate dissatisfied Democrats should do right now. Remember 1980 and what happened then can happen again in 2012!


31 posted on 10/30/2009 11:05:58 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: fieldmarshaldj
'Oh, there may be people that subscribe to the contradiction in terms privately, but when the rubber hits the road where it counts, with respect to our elected officials, it simply doesn't exist."

As a practical matter, I don't necessarily disagree. Of the active 100 members of the Senate, and the 435 members of the House, only two come to mind that are actual fiscal conservatives - Jeff Flake and Tom Coburn. Only these two guys show any consistency in voting against spending projects, even when that nay votes come at the expense of their own political self interest. The rest of them - ALL OF THEM - happily vote for all manner of pork and pet projects, wasting literally hundreds of billions a year in taxpayer money.

Every time a bill comes to the floor for a vote, with the exception of non-binding or honorary resolutions, the passage of that bill would mean, in some way, spending the taxpayer's money. The Legislative branch passed some 618 bills - most with clearly bi-partisan majorities, and all involved spending money, sometimes an incredible amount of money.

A "fiscal conservative", it could be argued, is the political equivalent of a Unicorn - not found in Republicans or Democrats nor in liberals or conservatives. Liberals do a tremendous job of raising taxes and spending money. Conservatives, sadly enough, have done a tremendous job of cutting taxes and spending money.

32 posted on 10/30/2009 11:09:54 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: OldDeckHand

It’s like I said above, we see a lot of social Conservative/fiscal liberals. The problem with all that spending and gov’t expansion tends to render their SoCon credentials as meaningless. Shrinking gov’t, cutting pork, cutting taxes & spending, returning gov’t to its Constitutional boundaries is just about the greatest test of fidelity to Conservatism, social or otherwise.


33 posted on 10/30/2009 11:17:11 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; campaignPete R-CT

I hope the CT GOP isn’t stupid enough to support him again, I suspect they are.

I have the GOP candidate for you Joe, her name is Dede.

(I never though I’d have a reason to type Dede so many times.)


34 posted on 10/30/2009 4:05:54 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: kidd
"Lieberman is an extreme leftist on most matters, but he does have some common sense in two key areas: defense and fiscal responsibility."

Which is why he tried to suppress the votes of our men and women overseas in 2000 and voted against the Bush tax cuts. ;)

It's nonsense that the GOP can't run a Senate candidate. A decent Republican who gets the GOP base vote likely wins a three way race.

35 posted on 10/30/2009 4:08:41 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

A person can be for abortion and gay marriage and small government. I’m sure many are.

But none are in office.


36 posted on 10/30/2009 4:10:36 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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