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MILITARY: Leathernecks Outshoot Army in Sniper Competition
North County Times ^ | October 29, 2009 | MARK WALKER

Posted on 10/30/2009 1:11:38 AM PDT by Lancey Howard

Chalk up another bull's-eye for the Marine Corps.

On Friday, Camp Pendleton is celebrating a big win over the Army, a traditional military rival.

Shooters from the Southern California base's School of Infantry have returned home with the top prize in the ninth annual U.S. Army Sniper Competition that took place Oct. 14-22 at Fort Benning, Ga.

(Excerpt) Read more at nctimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: banglist; sniper; usarmy; usmc
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1 posted on 10/30/2009 1:11:39 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; lilycicero; bigheadfred; ..

(( ping ))


2 posted on 10/30/2009 1:12:56 AM PDT by Lancey Howard (Go Phillies!)
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To: Lancey Howard
I'm trying to think of a sarcastic, yet funny, anti-Marine gybe, but I am at a loss.

Good Job Marines

3 posted on 10/30/2009 1:39:18 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Say it ain’t so!


4 posted on 10/30/2009 1:39:47 AM PDT by BellStar (Be strong ........Joshua 1:6)
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To: Lancey Howard
Bravo Zulu to the Pendleton Marines!

I'm glad I'm behind the bench.

5 posted on 10/30/2009 1:45:04 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Lancey Howard

This is only as it should be.

Semper Fi


6 posted on 10/30/2009 3:05:11 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Lancey Howard

I didn’t notice if any SEALs were involved...probably would have embarrassed the competition too much.

US Navy....a higher form of marine life.


7 posted on 10/30/2009 3:09:11 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!!)
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To: Lancey Howard
The spirit of Carlos Hathcock lives on !

SF
8 posted on 10/30/2009 3:12:52 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Williams/Sowell 2012 -or- Sowell/Williams 2012)
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To: rottndog
I didn’t notice if any SEALs were involved...probably would have embarrassed the competition too much.

I don't know if SEAL's have snipers who do nothing but train at sniping day in and day out. In general, special forces men are very good at everything but not necessarily the best at any one particular thing.

9 posted on 10/30/2009 3:24:08 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Sarajevo

You could say something about HOLLYWOOD Marines (Pendleton is in southern Ca) but that would make the Army look even worse.

OORAH!


10 posted on 10/30/2009 3:50:54 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Lancey Howard

Not much detail. So did the boys in the crotch use M40A whatevers vs M24’s?


11 posted on 10/30/2009 4:00:12 AM PDT by 03A3
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To: Lancey Howard

Makes this Marine proud! Semper Fi and Ooh Rah!


12 posted on 10/30/2009 4:15:11 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: rottndog
Why not let better men define the Marines and their ranking as the big dogs.....

“U.S MARINE CORPS is Part of the Navy, the MEN'S DEPARTMENT...”

“Marines I see as two breeds, Rottweilers or Dobermans, because Marines come in two varieties, big and mean, or skinny and mean. They're aggressive on the attack and tenacious on defense. They've got really short hair and they always go for the throat.” -RAdm. “Jay” R. Stark, USN; 10 November 1995

“I want you boys to hurry up and whip these Germans so we can get out to the Pacific to kick the s**t out of the purple-pissing Japanese, before the Godda**ed MARINES get all the credit!”
-Lt General George Patton, US Army 1945

“You cannot exaggerate about the Marines. They are convinced to the point of arrogance, that they are the most ferocious fighters on earth- and the amusing thing about it is that they are.”
Father Kevin Keaney
1st Marine Division Chaplain
Korean War

I hope you realize this is all in fun.......but true.

13 posted on 10/30/2009 4:16:23 AM PDT by Recon Dad (SSGT O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 9 getting to FOB)
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To: fso301
I don’t know if SEAL’s have snipers

They do have snipers! Oh, and the best are trained at Quantico.

14 posted on 10/30/2009 4:20:34 AM PDT by Recon Dad (SSGT O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 10 getting to FOB)
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To: Recon Dad

My guess?
The SEALs are too busy doing back to back to back deployments in country shooting at live targets to spend time on this “peacetime” play-acting.


15 posted on 10/30/2009 4:48:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: rottndog

LOL


16 posted on 10/30/2009 5:11:28 AM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Travis McGee

Some somali pirates come to mind.


17 posted on 10/30/2009 5:15:33 AM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Congradulations to the MARINES.Well done!


18 posted on 10/30/2009 5:18:02 AM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Recon Dad
They do have snipers! Oh, and the best are trained at Quantico.

I know they have snipers. What isn't clear to me is if their role is exclusively that of sniper or, if in addition to their other roles within a SEAL team, they being the teams best shot are the teams designated sniper?

19 posted on 10/30/2009 5:19:36 AM PDT by fso301
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To: imahawk

I hope the lot of them have their signatures on the Oath Keepers registry...


20 posted on 10/30/2009 5:22:01 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

At some point we are going to need them.


21 posted on 10/30/2009 5:28:30 AM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Recon Dad
Ah yess "...kick the s**t out of the purple-pissing Japanese..."

Georgie, you know that's RACIST!!!

22 posted on 10/30/2009 5:29:57 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Lancey Howard

God Bless Marines!!!


23 posted on 10/30/2009 5:31:04 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: Recon Dad
“The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!” Eleanor Roosevelt.

L

24 posted on 10/30/2009 5:35:32 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Travis McGee
to spend time on this “peacetime” play-acting.

A gentle correction my good friend. It's this 'play-acting' that keeps these people alive when the metal hits the meat.

25 posted on 10/30/2009 5:36:46 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Travis McGee
Example of SEAL live targets?

Lead or follow, but get out of the way...


26 posted on 10/30/2009 6:08:18 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: OldEagle
That is a great quote, here's one from a contemporary marine I think is in the class of Chesty Puller,

“I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I'll kill you all.”
-Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders

27 posted on 10/30/2009 6:26:49 AM PDT by Recon Dad (SSGT O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 10 getting to FOB)
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To: fso301
They may have a couple of guys on a team that is sniper qualified, but they do name one the designated sniper. My son is on a team and they have 3 out of their 5 man team qualified snipers, I'm betting it's the same on a SEAL team
28 posted on 10/30/2009 6:31:14 AM PDT by Recon Dad (SSGT O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 10 getting to FOB)
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To: Travis McGee
They are very busy, all of SOCOM are right now.
29 posted on 10/30/2009 6:33:32 AM PDT by Recon Dad (SSGT O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 10 getting to FOB)
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To: Recon Dad

I love it!!!


30 posted on 10/30/2009 6:40:46 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Lancey Howard; RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; ...
A REAL MISS AMERICA ....

This 19 year old ex-cheerleader (now an Air Force Security Forces Sniper) was watching a road that led to a NATO military base when she observed a man digging by the road. She engaged the target (i.e., she shot him).

It turned out he was a bomb maker for the Taliban, and he was burying an IED that was to be detonated when a US patrol walked by 30 minutes later.

It would have certainly killed and wounded several soldiers.

The interesting fact of this story is the shot was measured at 725 yards. She shot him as he was bent over burying the bomb. The shot went through his butt and into the bomb which detonated; he was blown to pieces. The Air Force made a motivational poster of her:

(Folks, that's a shot 25 yards longer than seven football fields!) And the last thing that came out of his mouth ... was his rear!

If You Cannot Stand Behind Our Troops, please Feel Free To Stand In Front Of Them!


31 posted on 10/30/2009 7:10:13 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Be who you are and say what you feel: Those who mind don't matter.Those who matter don't mind.)
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To: bigheadfred

mark


32 posted on 10/30/2009 7:12:23 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: bigheadfred

Great story!


33 posted on 10/30/2009 7:17:34 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: ComputerGuy

Is that a White Feather?


34 posted on 10/30/2009 7:24:39 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Girlene

Just trying to even things up a bit. ;-))


35 posted on 10/30/2009 7:32:22 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Be who you are and say what you feel: Those who mind don't matter.Those who matter don't mind.)
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To: litehaus

Bullseye


36 posted on 10/30/2009 7:38:05 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Williams/Sowell 2012 -or- Sowell/Williams 2012)
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To: 03A3
Not much detail. So did the boys in the crotch use M40A whatevers vs M24’s?

I'm trying to find more detail. They probably used 40s.

37 posted on 10/30/2009 8:11:14 AM PDT by Lancey Howard (Go Phillies!)
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To: Lancey Howard

What? :-)

Congrats to thos Marine snipers!


38 posted on 10/30/2009 8:30:47 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: bigheadfred

Good for her!

Hope he’s embarrassed about how he was dispatched to his virgins.


39 posted on 10/30/2009 8:37:33 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Recon Dad

The Marines have four Scout Sniper basic schools, including the one at Quantico. If the SEALS are trained at the Quantico school by Marine hogs, then they are probably pretty good. I know that Navy corpsmen who have been accepted into a Marine sniper platoon are eligible to go to USMC Scout Sniper Basic School but I haven’t heard of SEALS going through it.


40 posted on 10/30/2009 8:44:41 AM PDT by Lancey Howard (Go Phillies!)
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To: Lancey Howard

Excellent work!

Thanks for the ping.


41 posted on 10/30/2009 9:31:31 AM PDT by amom
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To: bigheadfred

Excellent post!


42 posted on 10/30/2009 9:34:53 AM PDT by amom
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To: bigheadfred

I recall another freeper saying he has (or saw) a bumper sticker that said something like:

God Bless Our Troops
Especially the Snipers


43 posted on 10/30/2009 9:36:57 AM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: amom

My nephew was a sniper in Iraq. now serving 10 years in Leavenworth.
This is a link to a link. A cartoon. It is probably offensive. It is meant to be.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2374563/posts?page=23#23


44 posted on 10/30/2009 10:18:16 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Be who you are and say what you feel: Those who mind don't matter.Those who matter don't mind.)
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To: bigheadfred

Thanks for the link.

I read your nephews account...one of the worst nightmares, only we don’t get to wake up.

Please thank him for his service on my behalf.


45 posted on 10/30/2009 11:08:36 AM PDT by amom
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To: Lancey Howard
My son related that in his class they had some officers and that every time their was a tough day scheduled for some reason the officers had pressing business elsewhere.

According to my son sniper school at Quantico was just as tough as BRC with more peopled dropped.

Where's the 4th school? Camp Lejeune, Pendleton, Quantico and ?

46 posted on 10/30/2009 11:24:59 AM PDT by Recon Dad (SSGT O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 10 getting to FOB)
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To: 03A3
Springfields with iron sights. Just to make it sporting.
47 posted on 10/30/2009 11:26:20 AM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Lancey Howard

Wait ‘til next year.

And thanks to all of the competitors for their service.


48 posted on 10/30/2009 11:26:24 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: bigheadfred

That is one Lady you treat bad at your peril.LOL.Good for her.


49 posted on 10/30/2009 1:14:46 PM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Recon Dad

Hawaii.


50 posted on 10/30/2009 2:39:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard (Go Phillies!)
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