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Manuel Zelaya to return as Honduras president
The Times ^ | 10/30/2009

Posted on 10/30/2009 1:05:20 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

Honduras' interim government has buckled under international pressure and agreed to allow the return to power of Manuel Zelaya, the ousted President who was toppled in a military coup four months ago.

The breakthrough followed renewed pressure from senior US. officials who traveled to Honduras this week for a last-ditch effort to end the crisis.

"It is a triumph for Honduran democracy," said Mr Zelaya after the rival sides agreed to a deal that could see him reinstated as President in the coming days.

Earlier, Roberto Micheletti, the president of the interim government that took power after the coup on June 28 announced that he had agreed to reinstate his political rival

"I am pleased to announce that a few minutes ago my negotiating team signed an agreement that marks the beginning of the end" of the four-month standoff, Mr Micheletti said in a statement from the presidential palace.

Mr Zelaya was sent into exile at gunpoint on June 28 but returned secretly to Honduras last month where he has taken refuge in the Brazilian embassy.

Mr Micheletti said Zelaya could return to office after a vote in Congress that would be authorised by the country's Supreme Court. He said the deal would require both sides to recognize the result of a presidential election due to take place on November 29 and would transfer control of the army to the top electoral court.

The United States, the European Union and Latin American leaders had all insisted that Zelaya be allowed to finish his presidential term, which ends in January. They had said they might not recognize the winner of the November election unless democracy was first restored.

A U.S. team led by Assistant Secretary of State Tom Shannon and Dan Restrepo, Washington's special assistant for Western Hemisphere

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bholatinamerica; danrestrepo; honduras; micheletti; soshillary; tomshannon; zelaya
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1 posted on 10/30/2009 1:05:20 AM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Sad, but probably the best that could be expected.


2 posted on 10/30/2009 1:07:34 AM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: Ronin

When does his term end, and when is the election supposed to occur?


3 posted on 10/30/2009 1:09:07 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
When does his term end, and when is the election supposed to occur?

The elections are scheduled four weeks away, on November 29.

4 posted on 10/30/2009 1:12:17 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Ronin
"probably the best that could be expected"

There is this interesting part of the article, not reflected in the headline:

"Mr Micheletti said Zelaya could return to office after a vote in Congress that would be authorised by the country's Supreme Court. "

There is a presidential election November 29, Zelya cannot be a candidate. In any event he won't be pres after Nov. 29.

yitbos

5 posted on 10/30/2009 1:12:44 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
When does his term end, and when is the election supposed to occur?

till he outlives his usefulness to the left..... or until one of the opposition party gets proper site picture.

6 posted on 10/30/2009 1:20:00 AM PDT by erman (Give a man a fire, warm him for one night. Set a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life.)
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To: bruinbirdman

This isn’t over. If zelaya doesn’t mind his P’s and Q’s he’ll be out on his ear for good. Socialists are on the march world wide thanks to our recent presidential election. Here’s wishing ill on every one of the countries in this hemisphere loudly proclaiming their dictatorial interests, beginning with that Venezuelan dick Tater Mr. Chavez


7 posted on 10/30/2009 1:24:57 AM PDT by wita
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To: bruinbirdman

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aft4dShLLrhM

NOT A DONE DEAL!
Honduran Congress is going to vote whether to re-instate this POS


8 posted on 10/30/2009 1:26:14 AM PDT by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: bruinbirdman
B.O. PUTS SOCIALISM BACK IN HONDURAS!
9 posted on 10/30/2009 1:33:59 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: wita

Best part is it gets him out of the Brazilian Embassy where the Hondurans can get their hands on him if he starts making like a tin god again.

I do not think they will be so nice to him the second time.


10 posted on 10/30/2009 1:34:05 AM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: bruinbirdman

THANKS for the clarification...so he is a lame duck? Can he force his way in again ala Hugo Chavez?


11 posted on 10/30/2009 1:35:15 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Ronin

“...Mr Micheletti said Zelaya could return to office after a vote in Congress that would be authorised by the country’s Supreme Court. ...”

COULD RETURN is the key phrase!


12 posted on 10/30/2009 1:37:54 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: bruinbirdman; HonCitizen; Girlene; livius; stephenjohnbanker; Son House; ABQHispConservative; ...
Honduras ping

Freepmail me to be added to / removed from Honduras ping list.
Please ping me to threads of interest.

13 posted on 10/30/2009 1:39:28 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: bruinbirdman

I’m weary of watching evil triumph.


14 posted on 10/30/2009 1:42:47 AM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: SoFloFreeper
"so he is a lame duck?"

Not even that. He is a non entity until the Congress votes on something and the Honduras Supreme court agrees. Might take til December.

yitbos

15 posted on 10/30/2009 1:43:54 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman

This is beyond sickening. I think they’re holding out a carrot to deny the pressuring countries their threat to refuse to acknowledge the results of the election - a Clintonian punishment that is completely unjustified and a direct rejection of the democratic process supposedly so beloved by the snarling communists trying to shove Zelaya back down Honduras’ throat.


16 posted on 10/30/2009 1:46:04 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Ronin

I’ll say one thing, the guy has to be gutsy, blind, or so et up with the power thing that he doesn’t see what you do. Or he just thinks Mr Obama is going to save his socialist rear end. Calling 911 should do it.


17 posted on 10/30/2009 1:46:07 AM PDT by wita
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To: WellyP

I think it will tale a week+ to get the vote approved leaving him in office for only 3 weeks. The military will watch him like a hawk. If he tries something, I predict they will shoot him on the spot!


18 posted on 10/30/2009 1:51:54 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: wita

OTOH This is a very scary scenario. A democratic country in our hemisphere being threatened by socialist governments starting with the USA.


19 posted on 10/30/2009 1:52:00 AM PDT by wita
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To: WellyP

If he brings in Chavez for a visit all bets are off on hin making it out alive!


20 posted on 10/30/2009 1:59:24 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: bruinbirdman

The BBC is framing it as a “power sharing agreement.”

In any case, it seems that they will have free elections in a month and both Micheletti and Zelaya will be out of office in January.


21 posted on 10/30/2009 2:20:47 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Ronin

of course its the best and its a good thing Honduras held out as long as they did. Zelaya will only have 2 months in office and everyone watching him.


22 posted on 10/30/2009 2:23:27 AM PDT by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: bruinbirdman

Outstanding...the US is successful in diplomacy...at restoring a wannabe dictator back in office...after he was constitutionally removed from office. Dang any constitution that gets in the way of mob rule.


23 posted on 10/30/2009 2:25:08 AM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Shame on Zer0 and all of those who do not believe in the aspects of constitutional law. Shame!


24 posted on 10/30/2009 2:29:01 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: bruinbirdman
toppled in a military coup

False.

25 posted on 10/30/2009 2:29:37 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: bruinbirdman
They should have burned down that Brazil embassy and killed the bastard!
26 posted on 10/30/2009 2:33:46 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: crazyhorse691

Yes, all it is The Chicago Way works on weak dependent democracies when the full might, majesty, dominion, power and glory of the USA is brought to bear. Never mind that Iran, Taliban, China, Russia et al just say “shove it” and Obama runs with his tail between his legs.

It reinforces the feeling south of the border that El Gringo is the man and you better not get out of line.


27 posted on 10/30/2009 2:34:17 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: bruinbirdman
,i he won't be pres after Nov. 29Unless the deal forced by the US is more onerous than it appears. What did we threaten the constitutional government of Honduras with? And since Honduras is "on our side" threats made behind the scenes would be eminently believable, unlike threats to Iran. Bwing pro American and anti socialist is highly dangerous to a small country, especially if it is clse to the US. .
28 posted on 10/30/2009 2:38:36 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
"toppled in a military coup False."

The Obammunist had to cave (the ball is in Honduras Congress and Supreme Court hands) after the

Directorate of Legal Research filed it's REPORT FOR CONGRESS - HONDURAS: CONSTITUTIONAL LAW ISSUES
This report discusses the legal basis under the Honduran Constitution for President José Manuel Zelaya Rosales’s removal from office.

This report was made public. It was requested by the United States Congress. It was sent to the U.S. Supreme Court.

It said Honduras acted in accordance with it own Constitution.

So Zelaya is not president of Honduras. The Honduras Congress and Supreme Court have agreed to do the same process all over again, just like they did before.

The Kenyan loses.

yitbos

29 posted on 10/30/2009 2:45:56 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: wita
Scary indeed. Ortega has just, with Chavez’ able assistance, become president for life. Nicaragua too has, or had, a one term limit in its constitution. It is unlikely that Zelaya will recognize a the results of the November election. With Obama's and Chavez' help a crisis will be created to justify the disolution of Honduras' government. Obama has directly caused the overthrow of a constitutional republic at a time when Communists are again taking countries in South and Central America. We are, for the time being, alligned with and assisting with Communist takeovers.

When the remaining Central American countries fall, we will face a much larger Cuba, with lots of oil, with missiles from North Korea and nuclear technology from Iran to our south. It could take 70 or more years (as our left wing helped Castro to oust Babtista in 1959) for Hondurans to regain the rights we, the United States, have taken from them. Castro destroyed the country with the highest standard of living in Latin America. Honduras was dealing with a Chavez ally, a tyrant, and has a constitution which successfully and legally protected them. Our British chief executive (not legally a president) has aligned us with Chavez (for whom Ayers son works or worked), and destroyed the constitutional government of our small neighbor. If anyone thinks that wasn't their intention, pay attention for the next month.

Obama and the forces behind him are finding it easier to impose Marxism on smaller contries than on the U.S. Here he must first destroy the economy. But Obama alligned with Chavez, Castro, Ortega, Ahmadenijad, will hasten the takeover of weaker countries in Latin America. Chavez troops didn't need to cross the border. Sending Hillary and John Kerry did the trick.

30 posted on 10/30/2009 2:46:58 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: bruinbirdman
Not even that. He is a non entity until the Congress votes on something and the Honduras Supreme court agrees. Might take til December.

HEHE! Very smart. They let the clown in "officially" for 2 weeks just to pacify everyone and then he's gone. The people voted for someone else. It's BYE, BYE!

31 posted on 10/30/2009 2:56:06 AM PDT by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: bruinbirdman

Zelaya will mind his P’s and Q’s, because what he wants is to be able to protect his money interests and property in Honduras, and be able to continue to live in the country. One wrong move on his part and he will be exiled from Honduras, and the next time if he would try to come back in the country, there would be a jail or a bullet waiting for him.

So Zelaya has a lot to lose, namely living in his own country where his relatives and business interests are located. And if he doesn’t go peacefully into the night, he knows he will be a marked man in his own country, and someone, somewhere, sometime, will take him out. Methinks he will be very, very careful in his moves, unless, of course, he is nutz, which is a distinct possibility, considering some of the totally irrational comments that have come out of his mouth, like the Jooooooos were out to get him. One can never disallow the possibility that he is a tad loco.


32 posted on 10/30/2009 3:20:37 AM PDT by flaglady47
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To: bruinbirdman
Zelaya is limited to one term. He got in trouble because he tried to go against the constitution. Zelaya is the same as Chavez. He tried to violate the Constitution and was ordered arrested by the the Supreme court of Honduras. Looks like Zelaya is going to buffalo his way into president for life like Chavez.

Obama is reversing the progress made by Reagan in the 1980s in South America.

33 posted on 10/30/2009 3:20:55 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: bruinbirdman

34 posted on 10/30/2009 4:14:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: bruinbirdman

http://www.collinsreport.net/2009/09/12/former-honduran-president-zelaya-hugo-chavez%e2%80%99s-drug-runner/
This is a dark day for democracy and another reason for people in South/Central America to hate America.Can we blame them?


35 posted on 10/30/2009 4:19:02 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: The Duke

“I’m weary of watching evil triumph.”

Me too. I pray and pray but it seems to do no good.


36 posted on 10/30/2009 4:31:50 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: bruinbirdman

What are the chances that election will happen? He didn’t work to get back into power for 4 weeks.


37 posted on 10/30/2009 4:54:45 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: The Duke

dittos. Everyone backs down and lets the evil win.


38 posted on 10/30/2009 4:57:51 AM PDT by indylindy (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: wita
If zelaya doesn’t mind his P’s and Q’s he’ll be out on his ear for good.

I think Honduras learned their lesson about just throwing him out. If he tries to seize power again, he'll be lucky to end up IN the jail, rather than UNDER it.

39 posted on 10/30/2009 5:20:48 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: WellyP

If they would have shot the commie bastard to begin with they wouldnt be dealing with this mess.CHE can vouch for that.


40 posted on 10/30/2009 5:22:51 AM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: eCSMaster; The Duke
“I’m weary of watching evil triumph.”

Me too. I pray and pray but it seems to do no good.

Skip to the back of the book - it turns out okay.

41 posted on 10/30/2009 5:25:35 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: bruinbirdman
My chosen headline for this story:

Communist coup: Obama overthrows constitutional government of Honduras

42 posted on 10/30/2009 5:27:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're winning.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Honduras' interim government has buckled under international pressure and agreed to...

Never trust a Communist. Never appease them. You'll end up a slave, or dead.

43 posted on 10/30/2009 5:29:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're winning.)
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To: EternalVigilance

This is a agreement favorable to Micheletti with headlines trying to make Obama look good.

I doubt the congressional vote will be to put Zelaya back in office. Even if it does, he will have extremely limited powers. Micheletti and Honduras won this thing handily, and are just letting the “international community” save face.


44 posted on 10/30/2009 5:34:56 AM PDT by mongrel
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To: mongrel
One can hope you're correct. On the other hand, the wolf is back in the living room. He may lie nicely on the rug as you say "nice doggie," or he may do what wolves do and eat your children.
45 posted on 10/30/2009 5:42:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're winning.)
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To: eCSMaster
Me too. I pray and pray but it seems to do no good.

Hang in there. We as a people let evil get ahead now it will take some time to reverse the process. The more of us working on it the better. I think more people are starting to see the light. I just hope our young people eventually realize what is going on and join with us. I know some great kids who are on the right side, so it can be done.

46 posted on 10/30/2009 5:49:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: nina0113

Here is hoping we are right, and that any incident caused by manuel’s failure to live up to conditions placed on him does not cause a Venezuelan invasion, supported by the USA.


47 posted on 10/30/2009 5:59:57 AM PDT by wita
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To: EternalVigilance

Never trust a Communist. Never appease them. You’ll end up a slave, or dead.

Great summation!


48 posted on 10/30/2009 6:01:59 AM PDT by wita
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To: dennisw

Didn’t he steal the equivalent of $2 million USD right before he left? They could reinstate him and immediately arrest him for grand theft.


49 posted on 10/30/2009 6:08:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

“The breakthrough followed renewed pressure from senior US. officials who traveled to Honduras this week for a last-ditch effort to end the crisis.”

Not a “last ditch effort” ....a major threat of some kind.

“Communist coup: Obama overthrows constitutional government of Honduras “

Likely the perfect headline repair job.


50 posted on 10/30/2009 6:12:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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