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Ron Paul vs. Michael Moore on Larry King CNN 10/29/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hn6ad4_FzM&feature=sub ^
Posted on 10/29/2009 9:31:01 PM PDT by 4rcane
Why can't other Republicans argue like this without being ashamed.. Here is someone who understand capitalism and will defend it as a system thats good for society and the well being of other human beings
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lping; realconservatives; rlc; ronpaul
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posted on
10/29/2009 9:31:01 PM PDT
by
4rcane
To: All
Please stop by the FReepathon thread and give it a bump. If you haven’t donated yet, please give it some thought.
Thank you!
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posted on
10/29/2009 9:34:33 PM PDT
by
ButThreeLeftsDo
(FR.....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
To: 4rcane; SoCalPol
Because of all the Freepers that ridicule people for being for ANY aspect of Ron Paul... here’s looking at you, SoCalPol.
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posted on
10/29/2009 9:37:47 PM PDT
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: 4rcane
LK doesn’t try to hide his bias.
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posted on
10/29/2009 9:45:07 PM PDT
by
lonestar
(Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
To: 4rcane
I don't watch Larry King.
Seeing this video, I'm glad I don't.
How clueless can you get? His grade school Marxism was embarrassing.
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posted on
10/29/2009 9:49:37 PM PDT
by
IrishCatholic
(No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
To: 4rcane
Here's the transcript:Moore: I believe America is an imperialist war-mongering nation.
Paul: Oh yeah? Well I really believe that America is an imperialist war-mongering nation.
Moore: Oh yeah? Well I really really believe that America is an imperialist war-mongering nation.
Paul: Oh yeah? Well I really really really believe that America is an imperialist war-mongering nation.
Moore: Oh yeah? Well I really really really really believe that America is an imperialist war-mongering nation.
Paul: Oh yeah? Well I really really really really really believe that America is an imperialist war-mongering nation.
Moore: Oh yeah? Well I really really really really really really believe that America is an imperialist war-mongering nation.
To: lonestar
LK doesnt try to hide his bias.I think LK is oblivious to his bias.
To: 4rcane
Generally speaking I like everything but his foreign policy views. On healthcare I’m sure I’d be on board with something he’d develop, but I doubt that would ever see the light of day.
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posted on
10/29/2009 9:59:36 PM PDT
by
Rick_Michael
(Have no fear "President Government" is here)
To: death2tyrants
**Moore: I believe America is an imperialist ...really really really really really really believe that America is an imperialist war-mongering nation.**
OK, we’ll be back of some commercials that hopefully will make sense
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posted on
10/29/2009 10:43:59 PM PDT
by
gwilhelm56
(I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
To: Rick_Michael
Google Ari Emanuel and find out what he does for a living.
He is Rahm Emanuel's brother, and apparently of the same temperment.
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posted on
10/29/2009 10:47:55 PM PDT
by
mckenzie7
(I am a European American! Silly me. I never realized that before! Thanks, oh great unifier!)
To: bamahead
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posted on
10/29/2009 10:51:15 PM PDT
by
murphE
("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
To: 4rcane
Larry King shows off his profound ignorance when he characterized Paul’s distinction between capitalism and corporatism as “semantics”.
To: murphE; djsherin; rabscuttle385; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; ...
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posted on
10/29/2009 11:35:30 PM PDT
by
bamahead
(Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
To: 4rcane; bamahead; djsherin
But...but...I thought Ron Paul was just a “kook” /sarc.
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posted on
10/29/2009 11:37:46 PM PDT
by
rabscuttle385
(http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
To: rabscuttle385
well, if he believes 9/11 was an insider job, then yes
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posted on
10/29/2009 11:38:30 PM PDT
by
4rcane
To: lonestar
Is Larry King still dead?
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posted on
10/29/2009 11:38:37 PM PDT
by
woofie
To: djsherin
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posted on
10/29/2009 11:38:43 PM PDT
by
bamahead
(Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
To: rabscuttle385
He is. He actually believes in following that 200 year old parchment scrap...something called ‘The Constitution’, I believe?! What an outrageous freak!
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posted on
10/29/2009 11:42:26 PM PDT
by
bamahead
(Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
To: OneWingedShark
LMAO, I was about to post “In before SoCalPol.”
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posted on
10/29/2009 11:43:12 PM PDT
by
randomhero97
("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
To: bamahead
The sad thing about it is that half the posters here have no idea about that “scrap” either. We still fight the good fight, bro.
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posted on
10/29/2009 11:44:13 PM PDT
by
randomhero97
("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
To: rabscuttle385; djsherin; bamahead; murphE; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Captain Kirk; Gondring; ...
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posted on
10/29/2009 11:47:49 PM PDT
by
djsherin
(Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
To: 4rcane
Whether you’re for or against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, they’ll be unsustainable after Obama destroys the dollar.
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posted on
10/30/2009 12:39:12 AM PDT
by
Jabba the Nutt
(Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
To: 4rcane; rabscuttle; bamahead; djsherin
Good post. Because most elected republicans believe in corporatistic-government. They just cat like they dont when democrats are in charge.
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posted on
10/30/2009 4:56:55 AM PDT
by
sickoflibs
( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
To: 4rcane
Yeah, Ron paul....He’s nuts. NOT
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posted on
10/30/2009 5:35:44 AM PDT
by
NCBraveheart
(I think therefore I am Libertarian)
To: 4rcane
well, if he believes 9/11 was an insider job, then yes
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
It’s obvious you haven’t read his books.
On SOME, key word some, of his foreign policy views I may not agree. But on everything else, I’m on board.
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posted on
10/30/2009 6:43:43 AM PDT
by
rasl04
("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" Barry Goldwater)
To: rasl04
why do i need to read his book to find out what whether he belives 9/11 is an inside job. I’ve seen a few clips where he try to avoid answering, with one where he kinda suggested he was too busy to focus on 9/11 investigation without denying it when conspiracy theorist would press him on it.
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posted on
10/30/2009 6:50:48 AM PDT
by
4rcane
To: 4rcane
I was discussing Ron Paul with some fellow Tea Party folks. We agreed that Ron Paul has some good ideas, some kookie ideas. Our solution was to find sort of a Ron Paul ver 2.0
I developed a bad taste for Ron Paul back during Y2K when a friend of mine became obsessed with Ron Paul and stocking up for Y2K. About 2003 our friendship took a blow when I didn't agree with her about "despising George W Bush" and all the conspiracy theories.
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posted on
10/30/2009 7:01:01 AM PDT
by
sweet_diane
(Joe Wilson should not apologize TO the members of the House...he should apologize FOR them!)
To: woofie
Is Larry King still dead? Yes, brain dead.
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posted on
10/30/2009 7:41:47 AM PDT
by
lonestar
(Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
To: randomhero97; bamahead
The sad thing about it is that half the posters here have no idea about that scrap either.But many of them do find it convenient to cry about that scrap when their agenda is threatened.
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posted on
10/30/2009 7:49:51 AM PDT
by
rabscuttle385
(http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
To: 4rcane
will watch later.
I bet Dr Paul schooled Moore-on.
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posted on
10/30/2009 7:53:40 AM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(Doug Hoffman for Congress NY-23)
To: NeoCaveman
He did quite well....though Moore wasn’t there. Paul was just given a chance to “react” to a couple of clips. It would be fun to see them actually go head to head in person.
To: 4rcane
why do i need to read his book to find out what whether he belives 9/11 is an inside job. Ive seen a few clips where he try to avoid answering, with one where he kinda suggested he was too busy to focus on 9/11 investigation without denying it when conspiracy theorist would press him on it. Paul has said over and over that he does NOT think 911 was an inside job and that he thinks Bin Laden did it. He hasn't "avoided" anything. The real conspiracy specialists these days are the birthers who have far more in common with the truthers than they'd like to admit. Fortunately, Paul hasn't got into that mess.
To: Captain Kirk; NeoCaveman
Dr. Paul is well-spoken and well researched. He's a formidable opponent, even if you disagre with his ideas.
Moore was frumpy and shot from the hip, no research, no foundation, just a bunch of assumptions waaaaay out of his league, especially in military issues. He was proud of Barak doing his fake salute at Dover.
Larry doesn't look so well these days.
To: Captain Kirk
Paul has said over and over that he does NOT think 911 was an inside job and that he thinks Bin Laden did it. He hasn't "avoided" anything.Completely agree.
Paul did however have a problem with The 9/11 Report -- NOT conspiracy nut stuff -- but rather that the Report was a CYA exercize that didn't go far enough in holding responsible those individuals & agencies who should have been minding the store and weren't.
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posted on
10/30/2009 10:27:24 AM PDT
by
Bokababe
(Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
To: 4rcane
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posted on
10/30/2009 3:57:37 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: 4rcane
Socialism vs capitalism vs corporatism..
Republicans and Democrats haggle over ratios of Socialism vs capitalism, little capitalism. But when it doesn't work, Republicans get the blame with capitalism.
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posted on
10/30/2009 9:59:47 PM PDT
by
sickoflibs
( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
To: Bokababe
but rather that the Report was a CYA exercize that didn't go far enough in holding responsible those individuals & agencies who should have been minding the store and weren't.And I completely agree with Ron Paul.
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posted on
10/30/2009 10:01:32 PM PDT
by
murphE
("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
To: 4rcane
Sorry its late try:
Socialism (democrats) vs capitalism (libertarians) vs corporatism(Republicans) .
Republicans and Democrats haggle over ratios of Socialism vs corporatism since their lines are blurred, little capitalism. But when it doesn't work, Republicans get the blame for capitalism which is never tried .
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posted on
10/30/2009 10:04:53 PM PDT
by
sickoflibs
( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
To: sickoflibs
I would admend
Democrat Leaders (Corporatist - favor bank, education, health, laywers)
vs
Republican Leaders (Corporatist - favor bank, industrial military complex, farming)
Democrat base = socialist
Republican base = capitalist
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posted on
10/30/2009 10:37:36 PM PDT
by
4rcane
To: 4rcane
Not bad. What was interesting is that both bases opposed TARP1 under Bush for similar reasons. It was Bush/Paulson sold us out on TARP, Maxine Waters (who know Obama would be president) urged progressives in the house to support it.
Of course Bush pushing TARP sealed the "Republicans love the rich" message democrats sent for 8 years
Who jumped into TARP? Those moderate Washington establishmentarians. Who is that? The Senate!
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posted on
10/31/2009 6:32:04 AM PDT
by
sickoflibs
( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
To: Rick_Michael
His foreign policy is consistent and I can’t find many people have who a consistent policy. The current policy is, “We’re not leaving but we won’t send more troops even though the military says without more troops we cannot win”. That being the policy my counter argument would be, ‘fine, then leave’. There is no clear objective there and as such I think the right thing to do is to pull the troops out.
Iraq: I didn’t think we should have gone in but we did so my position slowly became: Whatever is needed to win. The policy now is, We don’t know exactly what we want out of Iraq so we will say that we’re leaving but we’ll leave the troops there anyways and we wont’ discuss it. That being the policy my new position is, ‘fine, then leave’.
Either develop a coherent policy in Iraq and Afghanistan or leave.
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