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U.S. House Health Care Plan Bill (pdf of 1,990 bill)
United States House of Representatives ^ | October 29, 2009 | 11th Congress

Posted on 10/29/2009 8:36:00 AM PDT by MaestroLC

This is the official pdf from the U.S. House of Representatives unveiled by Nancy Pelosi today.

It is 1,990 pages.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; bill; healthcare; house; obama; pelosi
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1 posted on 10/29/2009 8:36:01 AM PDT by MaestroLC
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To: MaestroLC

Time to start calling our Congressweasels to insist that they read the entire document before voting on it.


2 posted on 10/29/2009 8:37:36 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: MaestroLC
They vote for what??? it is illegal screw them.
3 posted on 10/29/2009 8:39:22 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: MaestroLC

Interesting that the cabal refused to give the location for the doc.
Knew FR would have the link.
Thank You sir/madam!


4 posted on 10/29/2009 8:50:40 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: MaestroLC

Whew—I thought “1,990 bill” was new jargon for $1.9 Trillion.


5 posted on 10/29/2009 8:51:44 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: MaestroLC
Has anybody looked into what will happen to legitimate malpractice suits under Obamacare? Good luck suing the Government for taking out one of your kidneys rather than your tonsils.
6 posted on 10/29/2009 8:53:25 AM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: MaestroLC

I bet Rush has a couple of people reading as much of this as they can. I know Glenn is going to start on it tonight too.


7 posted on 10/29/2009 8:53:50 AM PDT by wastedyears (Clyde Shelton is my hero.)
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To: MaestroLC

Why doesn’t it have a number assigned to it yet? H.R.____


8 posted on 10/29/2009 8:54:34 AM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: MaestroLC; All
An easy way to email all your reps... Free Our Healthcare Now

I also heard a bunch of seniors were arrested at Pelosi's conference for protesting her. It was all roped off and sealed.

9 posted on 10/29/2009 8:55:33 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: wastedyears; Biggirl; NautiNurse

Listening to Jim Vicevich, our local (Hartford, CT) conservative talk radio host now... he says there’s a public option in it (surprise!) and tax hikes on those making $500,000+. That’s all I know so far...


10 posted on 10/29/2009 8:56:24 AM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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Page 25 -

(h) FUNDING; TERMINATION OF AUTHORITY.— (1) IN GENERAL.—There is appropriated to the Secretary, out of any moneys in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, $5,000,000,000 to pay claims against (and administrative costs of) the high-risk pool under this section in excess of the premiums collected with respect to eligible individuals enrolled in the high-risk pool. Such funds shall be available without fiscal year limitation.

(2) INSUFFICIENT FUNDS.—If the Secretary estimates for any fiscal year that the aggregate amounts available for payment of expenses of the high-risk pool will be less than the amount of the ex-penses, the Secretary shall make such adjustments as are necessary to eliminate such deficit, including reducing benefits, increasing premiums, or establishing waiting lists.

11 posted on 10/29/2009 8:57:32 AM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: MaestroLC

Ping (for when I get my law degree)


12 posted on 10/29/2009 8:59:13 AM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / Declaration of Independence - 5th sentence)
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To: frogjerk

Well, having a high risk pool is more than many high risk folks have now.


13 posted on 10/29/2009 8:59:59 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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Pg. 337...

‘‘SEC. 59C. SURCHARGE ON HIGH INCOME INDIVIDUALS.

‘‘(a) GENERAL RULE.—In the case of a taxpayer other than a corporation, there is hereby imposed (in addition to any other tax imposed by this subtitle) a tax equal to 5.4 percent of so much of the modified adjusted gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds $1,000,000.

‘‘(b) TAXPAYERS NOT MAKING A JOINT RETURN.— In the case of any taxpayer other than a taxpayer making a joint return under section 6013 or a surviving spouse (as defined in section 2(a)), subsection (a) shall be applied by substituting ‘$500,000’ for ‘$1,000,000’.

‘‘(c) MODIFIED ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME.—For purposes of this section, the term ‘modified adjusted gross income’ means adjusted gross income reduced by any deduction (not taken into account in determining adjusted gross income) allowed for investment interest (as defined in section 163(d)). In the case of an estate or trust, adjusted gross income shall be determined as provided in section 67(e).

‘‘(d) SPECIAL RULES.— (1) NONRESIDENT ALIEN.—In the case of a nonresident alien individual, only amounts taken into account in connection with the tax imposed under section 871(b) shall be taken into account under this section.

(snip)

(d) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by this section shall apply to taxable years beginning after December 31, 2010.

SEC. 552. EXCISE TAX ON MEDICAL DEVICES.

‘‘SEC. 4061. MEDICAL DEVICES.

‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—There is hereby imposed on the first taxable sale of any medical device a tax equal to 2.5 percent of the price for which so sold.

‘‘(b) FIRST TAXABLE SALE.—For purposes of this section—

‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—The term ‘first taxable sale’ means the first sale, for a purpose other than for resale, after production, manufacture, or importation.

14 posted on 10/29/2009 9:02:13 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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Page 29

(2) INDIVIDUAL HEALTH MARKET.—Section 2742 of such Act (42 U.S.C. 300gg–42) is amended by adding at the end the following: ‘‘(f) RESCISSION.—A health insurance issuer may rescind individual health insurance coverage only upon clear and convincing evidence of fraud described in subsection (b)(2), under procedures that provide for independent, external third-party review.’’.

Is this third party ACORN?

15 posted on 10/29/2009 9:02:49 AM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: nutmeg
tax hikes on those making $500,000+. That’s all I know so far...

If the pay czar has his way no one will qualify for this tax.

16 posted on 10/29/2009 9:04:28 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: MaestroLC
‘‘(b) QUALIFIED CHILD DEFINED.—In this section, the term ‘qualified child’ means, with respect to a partici pant in a group health plan or group health insurance cov21 erage, an individual who (but for age) would be treated as a dependent child of the participant under such plan or coverage and who— ‘‘
(1) is under 27 years of age; and
(2) is not enrolled as a participant, beneficiary, or enrollee (other than under this section, section 2746, or section 704 of the Employee Retire2 ment Income Security Act of 1974) under any health insurance coverage or group health plan.

Under 27 years of age seems pretty old to be a dependent child.

17 posted on 10/29/2009 9:07:17 AM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: wastedyears
You probably will want to locat section 501 and begin there.

It contains some really great stuff shuch as:

Subpart A—Tax on Individuals Without Acceptable Health Care Coverage

Howabout 2.5% of your adjusted gross income for starters?
18 posted on 10/29/2009 9:12:59 AM PDT by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: frogjerk

“Childhood” is prolonged as far as possible, so that ‘children’ are eligible for more and more taxpayer funded goodies. See?


19 posted on 10/29/2009 9:13:38 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
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(3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION.
—The public health insurance option shall provide coverage for services described in para graph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed as preventing the public health insurance option from providing for or prohibiting coverage of serv ices described in paragraph
(4)(A).
(4) ABORTION SERVICES.—
(A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND ING IS PROHIBITED.
—The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is not permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved.
(B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED.
—The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the begin ning of the plan year involved.

Public funding of abortion will be allowed and a section is set aside for it.

20 posted on 10/29/2009 9:26:05 AM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: frogjerk

what page is this?


21 posted on 10/29/2009 9:30:16 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: MaestroLC
The last 350 pages deals with ‘Indian Health Care Improvement Act’.
22 posted on 10/29/2009 9:37:24 AM PDT by Master of Orion
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To: frogjerk

We have to cover our children until they are 27?


23 posted on 10/29/2009 9:40:28 AM PDT by VA40
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Line 17 on Page 110.

Once the entire document is downloaded to your computer, you can use the find feature in the upper right hand corner of the document to search.

24 posted on 10/29/2009 9:45:14 AM PDT by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: An Old Man

2.5% penalty is much cheaper than what I pay now, what does that get me on the public side? hehe


25 posted on 10/29/2009 9:56:54 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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MORE TAXES

Page 337

‘‘SEC. 59C. SURCHARGE ON HIGH INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
‘‘(a) GENERAL RULE.—In the case of a taxpayer other than a corporation, there is hereby imposed (in addition to any other tax imposed by this subtitle) a tax equal to 5.4 percent of so much of the modified adjusted gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds $1,000,000.
‘‘(b) TAXPAYERS NOT MAKING A JOINT RETURN.—
In the case of any taxpayer other than a taxpayer making a joint return under section 6013 or a surviving spouse (as defined in section 2(a)), subsection (a) shall be applied by substituting ‘$500,000’ for ‘$1,000,000’.
‘‘(c) MODIFIED ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME.—
For purposes of this section, the term ‘modified adjusted gross income’ means adjusted gross income reduced by any deduction (not taken into account in determining adjusted gross income) allowed for investment interest (as defined in section 163(d)). In the case of an estate or trust, adjusted gross income shall be determined as provided in section 67(e).

26 posted on 10/29/2009 10:08:46 AM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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27 posted on 10/29/2009 10:13:46 AM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: MaestroLC
" U.S. House Health Care Plan Bill (pdf of 1,990 bill)"

The load has arrived:


28 posted on 10/29/2009 10:14:04 AM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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1 SEC. 202. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT

2 COVERAGE.

3 (a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV

4 ERAGE DEFINED.—Subject to the succeeding provisions of

5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov

6 erage under this division, the term ‘‘grandfathered health

7 insurance coverage’’ means individual health insurance

8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the

9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.—

11 (A) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in

12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance

13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll

14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef

15 fective date of coverage is on or after the first

16 day of Y1.

Am I reading this correctly that a person can keep their current coverage as long as the insurance company does not offer any more individual policies to anyone? So everyone will eventually be rolled in to the government's program? Seems like that was in the previous "bill" that was released.

And of course it also looks like the pre-existing conditions coverage nonsense is in it.

29 posted on 10/29/2009 10:23:43 AM PDT by Roos_Girl ("Obama is Kenyan for idiot" - CC)
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I wonder who write THIS particular monstrosity. Was it the Apollo Alliance once again, the same group that wrote the stimulus bill?


30 posted on 10/29/2009 10:36:47 AM PDT by jpl
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To: frogjerk

There you have it... And those stupid liberals thought things like denials and waiting lists or RATIONING of care would be gone? HA! Thank you for pulling that out... Posting to my facebook in a bit...


31 posted on 10/29/2009 11:38:10 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: An Old Man
Subpart A—Tax on Individuals Without Acceptable Health Care Coverage

LOL. Not just "Without Coverage", but "Without ACCEPTABLE Coverage."

Gee, I wonder who gets to decide what's "acceptable." I know it won't be me....

32 posted on 10/29/2009 11:43:54 AM PDT by kevao (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: DonaldC

So, are you saying you SUPPORT this bill then?


33 posted on 10/29/2009 11:44:32 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: VA40

They’ll probably push the age for Student loans up to 27, too. Which means that kids like me — who move out when they are 18 will still be considered as children and not eligible for student loans NOT based upon their parents’ income... 27 years old is pushing it WAY too far, IMHO.


34 posted on 10/29/2009 12:06:23 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Roos_Girl

What is the first day of Y1??? My husband just changed jobs and we won’t be eligible for his new insurance for 90 days. Does this mean my family will HAVE to be on the “public option” for the rest of our lives with NO choice?!?!?!

Someone, please do get back to me on this if I’m reading it wrong!!! Is this just for INDIVIDUAL policies or GROUP policies???


35 posted on 10/29/2009 12:10:09 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: VA40

Darn, my dad made me start paying my own way when I was 18. Oh wait. Maybe that is why I have been self sufficient for the past 40 years. Thanks dad.


36 posted on 10/29/2009 12:48:17 PM PDT by kempster
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To: MaestroLC

Page 110 - The public health insurance option shall provide coverage for abortions.


37 posted on 10/29/2009 12:48:22 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: MaestroLC

38 posted on 10/29/2009 1:38:11 PM PDT by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: MaestroLC; ex-Texan

The bill equals an Obama dictatorship & massive additional taxes.

39 posted on 10/29/2009 1:55:55 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never "free")
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To: MaestroLC

http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/106xx/doc10688/hr3962Rangel.pdf

This is the Congressional Budget Office’s letter to Rangel which summarizes the bill.


40 posted on 10/29/2009 2:10:37 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

page 1776 is missing.......


41 posted on 10/29/2009 2:19:20 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: An Old Man

What’s not to love about National Socialist Health Care?

Welcome to the USSA, comrade. You must learn to love Big Brother.


42 posted on 10/29/2009 2:32:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
Grrrrrrrrrrrr
43 posted on 10/29/2009 2:37:26 PM PDT by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: MaestroLC

1,990 pages of pure socialist crap!!! Another call tomorrow to my libturd Tim Walz MN(1) to rant & rave!!!


44 posted on 10/29/2009 3:11:58 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

wonder why page 1776 is missing...................


45 posted on 10/29/2009 4:43:46 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: blueyon

it’s there


46 posted on 10/29/2009 4:45:28 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: musicman

bookmark


47 posted on 10/29/2009 4:54:41 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Wisconsinlady

The CBO letter says that insurers “could not vary premiums to reflect differences in enrollees’ health” (page 4). And page 22 of HR 3962 says there cannot be more than 2-to-1 difference between the highest and lowest premiums of any enrollee.

Young people are going to be shocked when their premiums explode.

Insurance companies are drooling at the prospect of signing up (by force) millions of healthy young uninsured Americans at ridiculously high premiums.

This is why the insurance companies have been staying quiet about ObamaCare. When Baucus tried to defer the forced-enrollment requirement for a few years they got angry. Then the pitchforks and negative ad campaigns started.


48 posted on 10/29/2009 8:55:15 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: La Lydia

“Time to start calling our Congressweasels to insist that they read the entire document before voting on it.”

I will be honest here. I do not care if they vote on it without reading it, so long as they vote against it until they can read it and analyze it.


49 posted on 10/29/2009 10:24:09 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: MaestroLC

Via- Hugh Hewitt - Comprehensive List of Taxes
In House Democrat Health Bill - From Ryan Ellis on Thursday, October 29, 2009
http://www.atr.org/breaking-comprehensive-list-taxesbr-house-democrat- a4113# This is another stunner. Gifts for plaintiffs’ lawyers and massive tax hikes —just what the doctor ordered for an ailing economy.-Hugh
And seniors get their benefits slashed.


50 posted on 10/29/2009 10:33:01 PM PDT by anglian
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