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Who Lied to (RINO) Newt Gingrich?
TCOTR Report.com ^ | Oct 29, 2009 | Michael Patrick Leahy

Posted on 10/29/2009 6:30:05 AM PDT by Leisler

"Perhaps more ominously for his ( Newt's )rapidly fading hopes for a 2012 Presidential bid, conservatives are beginning to question his integrity. His constant repetition of the false "she's locally selected" mantra seems as off message as Scozzafava's numerous well documented campaign missteps."

"Either Newt Gingrich is lying, or someone misled him."

But how can "the smartest guy in the room", with a reputation as a scholar and seeker of truth have been so easily misled about a set of facts that could be discerned with half an hour's worth of phone calls?"

(Excerpt) Read more at tcotreport.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: gop; gopimplosion; gopistheproblem; newt; nrcc; ny23; rino; rnc; scozzafava; steele; whigpartyii
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1 posted on 10/29/2009 6:30:06 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Leisler
But how can "the smartest guy in the room", with a reputation as a scholar and seeker of truth have been so easily misled about a set of facts that could be discerned with half an hour's worth of phone calls?"

It's easy to be misled when you want to be misled.

2 posted on 10/29/2009 6:34:53 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Leisler

Gee, maybe Newt’s not the “smartest guy in the room” afterall.


3 posted on 10/29/2009 6:36:15 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Leisler

Newts been too busy hawking his books to do his homework. Somebody fed him a line of crap and he bought it. I heard him just the other night say he just “RECENTLY heard about the Rasmussen Presidential Poll that survey strongly favorable and strongly unfavorable”. If that is the case, he’s really out of touch.


4 posted on 10/29/2009 6:37:00 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Leisler

Michael Steele on Hannity radio yesterday kept saying that Scuzzafava(?) was chosen by the Repubs in the district in a primary.

Someone who knows - please tell us - was she chosen by a primary or not?


5 posted on 10/29/2009 6:45:14 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: Leisler
they turned him into a Newt and he didn't get better.
6 posted on 10/29/2009 6:45:33 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Democrats scare me, the GOP infuriates me.")
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To: Leisler

“But how can “the smartest guy in the room”, with a reputation as a scholar and seeker of truth have been so easily misled”

$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$
mmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


7 posted on 10/29/2009 6:46:26 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Leisler

Newt lost any and all his trust when he decided to sit on the couch with Nancy and espouse global warming lies.

He is history.

We will remember 1994, but not the Newt since he retired from Congress.


8 posted on 10/29/2009 6:48:18 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: DTogo

Bingo


9 posted on 10/29/2009 6:50:34 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: eCSMaster

Nope, no primary.


10 posted on 10/29/2009 6:50:53 AM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: bestintxas

When he decided to screw two wives did it for me.


11 posted on 10/29/2009 6:51:33 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: eCSMaster

“Someone who knows - please tell us - was she chosen by a primary or not?”

No, she was picked by the head of the party in the area.


12 posted on 10/29/2009 6:52:25 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: bestintxas

agree!


13 posted on 10/29/2009 6:52:26 AM PDT by classified
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To: stockpirate
I posed the same questioned to my brother, either someone is misleading Newt, why else would he do this?

His answer was perfect, "Did anyone tell Newt to sit on a coach with Nancy Pelosi?"

14 posted on 10/29/2009 6:53:12 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme - Mark Twain)
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To: Leisler

Shooooo.....Newt Be Gone!


15 posted on 10/29/2009 6:53:13 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Promoted by God to be a Mother!!!! Thanks, Susan)
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To: Leisler
We NEWT was over when....


16 posted on 10/29/2009 6:56:06 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Promoted by God to be a Mother!!!! Thanks, Susan)
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To: stockpirate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u0GJSZttZE&feature=channel_page


17 posted on 10/29/2009 6:57:59 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: Bahbah

“Nope, no primary.”

Well, has anyone told Newt and Steele that?


18 posted on 10/29/2009 6:58:39 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: DTogo
Gee, maybe Newt’s not the “smartest guy in the room” afterall.

I came to that conclusion the moment he accepted that multi-million dollar book advance in the weeks following the 1994 election.

Sure, it was legal, but it stunk to high heaven. I was really disappointed in Rush, who carried Newtie's water in the aftermath.

19 posted on 10/29/2009 6:59:01 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: Leisler

I don’t necessarily question his integrity, I question is political acumen. How could he misread the mood of the people whose votes he needs so badly.


20 posted on 10/29/2009 6:59:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: eCSMaster

According to Hoffman, there were 11 people, county GOPers, who had some kind of weighted votes. 3 of her buddies accounted for 43% of the voted, and 1 other vote put her over him. So even though she only got 4 votes, the way they were weighted, she won.


21 posted on 10/29/2009 7:06:21 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: bestintxas

And hanging with Al Sharpton....


22 posted on 10/29/2009 7:11:41 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: eCSMaster

Newt knows what the process was. I don’t know what Steele knows.


23 posted on 10/29/2009 7:12:50 AM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Bahbah; eCSMaster
Here's one summary (Nomination of Liberal Republican in New York 23rd Tainted by Breach of Trust) of the selection process (basically the opposite of a primary), described by the New York Post as "an obscenely corrupt political bargain by GOP bosses that sells out their party."
24 posted on 10/29/2009 7:22:08 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Bahbah
"Newt knows what the process was. I don’t know what Steele knows."

What kind of leadership does this show by these two?

How about checking facts before they go public on TV & spout information they know nothing about - or worse is that they DID know & deliberately are lying.

My opinion is that they are & were aware of the facts - but both are in favor of 'the big tent' philosophy for the Republican party.

25 posted on 10/29/2009 7:22:08 AM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: stockpirate

Pournelle’s Iron Law of Bureaucracy states that in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people. First, there will be those who are devoted to the goals of the organization. Examples are dedicated classroom teachers in an educational bureaucracy, many of the engineers are scientists at NASA, even some agricultural scientists and advisors in the former Soviet Union collective farming administration.

Secondly, there will be those dedicated to the organization itself. Examples are many of the administrators in the education system, many professors of education, many teachers union officials, much of the NASA headquarters staff, etc.

The Iron Law states that in every case the second group will gain and keep control of the organization. It will write the rules, and control promotions within the organization.


26 posted on 10/29/2009 7:22:27 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: DTogo

“Gee, maybe Newt’s not the “smartest guy in the room” afterall”

BINGO


27 posted on 10/29/2009 7:25:39 AM PDT by Breto
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To: Leisler

Hey Newt, kindly go to pasture with your buddy McCain. I used to like you. Now I loath you. Just another stinking weak-spined GOP Socialist Lite sell-out...


28 posted on 10/29/2009 7:28:57 AM PDT by piytar (This tag deleted by the Ministry of Truth. Love Big Brother. Or else!)
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To: Leisler

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/us_texas_governor_cheney/2009/10/28/278321.html?s=al&promo_code=8FA7-1


29 posted on 10/29/2009 7:34:51 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Dick Bachert

Thanksfor the link but my fire wall stops me from seeing it.


30 posted on 10/29/2009 7:36:07 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Interesting update to the "obscenely corrupt political bargain by GOP bosses to sell out their party" story regarding the bungled nominee selection process for NY-23.
31 posted on 10/29/2009 7:36:19 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: stockpirate

That’s my view of it as well.

mr. newt(ered) has received or is expecting to receive a large backdoor contribution to the gingrich Benevolent Society and Retirement Fund coffers for the donation of his unused principles.

Bet on it.


32 posted on 10/29/2009 7:37:08 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: piytar

They have no other life. Politics for ugly people. Where else would they go where anyone would pay attention to them? No were.

They are like skanked out streetwalkers saying, “Yeah Baby, I got what you need. Fifty dollars”.

Who would buy such a line?

They were done twenty years ago, and still they get out every night under that street lamp at Republican and Conservative corner, showing cellulite thigh, ripped fishnet, and a promise of a good time.


33 posted on 10/29/2009 7:37:22 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: Leisler

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/us_schwarzenegger_veto_message/2009/10/27/277975.html?s=al&promo_code=8FA7-1


34 posted on 10/29/2009 7:39:14 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Servant of the Cross

Every time you think you could not be more disgusted, you find you are wrong.


35 posted on 10/29/2009 7:46:38 AM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Leisler
The very same old GOP old hands opted for insider Jim Tedisco over Betty Little in that race and Tedisco got beaten, hindsight suggested Little would have won hands down. And, interesting enough, up pops Tom Reynolds to comment, again. It's argued that instead of any genuine insight into politics on the ground these days, they didn't want to repeat the Tedisco mistake, judged it based upon purely out-dated male/female lines and were going to go with a female no matter what.

Some national GOP types apparently just had to have a woman run for the NY - 23 seat. That's a serious problem for the GOP now, lunkheads in DC who think along the lines of identity politics, and look for groups they can pander to for votes. Those sorts need to be purged from any leadership roles because they are severely damaging the party.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2009/10/how-the-nrcc-bungled-ny-23.html

36 posted on 10/29/2009 8:06:43 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Leisler
“But how can “the smartest guy in the room”, with a reputation as a scholar and seeker of truth have been so easily misled about a set of facts that could be discerned with half an hour's worth of phone calls?””

Gingrich is an arrogant narcissist who failed in his role as Speaker of the House because he made everything all about him. He now appears with Pelosi and Sharpton to push the leftist agenda in hopes it will make him popular with the MSM. He is an attention whore who needs people to notice him no matter what problems he creates.

37 posted on 10/29/2009 8:17:22 AM PDT by detective
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To: Will88

No, you are wrong in that you are mistaken in their motivations. It is bad for us, conservatives, and bad for the country. But for the RNC/GOP bureaucracy? It’s great!

I’ve always said the Republican Party was the go slow Democrat party, Democrat Lite party. So for the RNC, this is good.

They are just following along with the Democrats identity politics meme.

That is what the GOP/RNC is about. Getting elected. Then, getting re-elected. Elected for elections sake.

It’s the process, not the values.( not that there were many ).

Who is the Republican that calls our Democrat and Republican built government a racket? A lying, thieving, indebting machine?

No one.


38 posted on 10/29/2009 8:17:26 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: detective

Washington is Hollywood for ugly actors.


39 posted on 10/29/2009 8:18:25 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: Leisler
No, you are wrong in that you are mistaken in their motivations

No, I'm not wrong. You need to read what I said again, and not jump to conclusions. You agreed with me.

40 posted on 10/29/2009 8:22:23 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Leisler

“Washington is Hollywood for ugly actors”

That’s a damn fine quote there! Could even wind up as a tagline someday.


41 posted on 10/29/2009 8:25:20 AM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: Leisler

That is a fine quote, you have my vote for quote of the day!


42 posted on 10/29/2009 8:52:48 AM PDT by exnavy (GOD save the republic)
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To: DManA; rabscuttle385; hiredhand; Squantos; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3

“..How could he misread the mood of the people ...”

Because he’s spent so much time in the Bizzaroland of DC that he forgot about the folks on Main Street.

They isolate themselves, party with the enemy, compromise with the enemy, and try to believe that the other side of the aisle is still American and doesn’t want to turn them into political eunuchs.

Then, when election time rolls around, they come out of hiding with an appearance or two on Hannity and we’re supposed to flock to them - no matter WHO they puke up as a candidate - because hey, you know, we HAVE to beat the Democrats.

Well, you don’t beat the Dems by becoming Dems. You beat them by showing folks what the Dems and their liberal RINO allies really are, and by embracing the road that Reagan laid out.

It’s not like we’re NOT vocal, it’s not like we CAN’T be heard. They have only to browse THIS website to see the “mood of the people”. They just think they know better than us dumbasses.

If Newt can’t figure it out, he needs to step aside. Same with Steele. Either lead, follow, or get the hell out of our way.

No RINOs. Not now, not ever.


43 posted on 10/29/2009 8:57:48 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: Will88

It’s not an error. It is not ‘some’. This has been the drill since Reagan. HW Bush’s ‘Can’t We All Get Along’, GW’s Compassionate Conservatives. Newt, and others, are Washington GOP/RNC ‘leadership’ mainstream.

We’re the ones that in their eyes are messed up. All those stupid values, principals things. Why if only we would ‘put aside’ our differences, we could ‘win back Washington’ and have big spending, big tax, Big Brother Nanny State with an occasional meaningless bone for us once in a while. We are JUST SO INGREATFUL to our party superiors.
/GOP THINK


44 posted on 10/29/2009 9:17:44 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: NFHale

They know. They just work with us like the Democrat plantation masters do blacks. Newt is our Jessy Jackson/Al Sharpton. ( Ever notice how comfortable he is with them? One professional to another )


45 posted on 10/29/2009 9:19:28 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: Leisler; Will88

“..Can’t We All Get Along...”

I don’t want to “get along”. I want them defeated, utterly.

You don’t shake hands with a demon to catch the Devil. Most of the time, the demon decides NOT to let go.

I want my country back.


46 posted on 10/29/2009 9:43:53 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: eCSMaster
She was chosen in a backroom deal by 11 Republican commitee members, four of whom are RINOs who were able to ram Scuzzy’s nomination through.
47 posted on 10/29/2009 11:27:05 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: Leisler
His constant repetition of the false "she's locally selected" mantra seems as off message as Scozzafava's numerous well documented campaign missteps." The writer nailed it. I watched and listened to Newt repeat this to laura Ingraham and Fox morning shows. I scratched my head wondering wahy Newt wouldn't have checked his facts and why wouldn't be so stubborn not to correct his error and poor choice. I'm left believing that he knew he was selling out thousands of conservative grassroots activists and normal everyday folks and instead siding witt 7 old white GOP chairmen who unilaterally selected Dede. Why? Does Newt think that's how he gets their endorsement for President in 2012? Even so, he'll fail like Rudy did. Conclusion: Newt has lost the ability to make good decisions and display good judgement.
48 posted on 10/29/2009 12:46:46 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: b4its2late
According to Hoffman, there were 11 people, county GOPers, who had some kind of weighted votes. 3 of her buddies accounted for 43% of the voted, and 1 other vote put her over him. So even though she only got 4 votes, the way they were weighted, she won.

I believe this. In the 20th CD the county Chairman with the largest vote - 80 year old Jasper Nolan "selected" his longtime friend Sandy Treadwell in the race 2 years ago. Sandy was a liberal RINO just like Dede. They both had a friend with a large weighted vote and they both will never be in Congress. Who to blame? First - the OLD County chairmen who are so out of touch with reality. 2nd, anyone who goes along with these poor endorsements.

49 posted on 10/29/2009 12:51:16 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: NFHale
Newt...what a boor... I sent him a "Go To Hell RINO!" letter some time back after I got a request for donations to the RNC and his standard nonsense as to why I should donate and the bad stuff that would happen if I didn't.

Neither him, nor any RINO will get my support...not financially, or at the voting booth.
50 posted on 10/29/2009 1:09:38 PM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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