Posted on 10/28/2009 8:01:12 PM PDT by thisisthetime
Human eggs and sperm have been grown in the laboratory in research which could change the face of parenthood.
It paves the way for a cure for infertility and could help those left sterile by cancer treatment to have children who are biologically their own.
But it raises a number of moral and ethical concerns. These include the possibility of children being born through entirely artificial means, and men and women being sidelined from the process of making babies.
Opponents argue that it is wrong to meddle with the building blocks of life and warn that the advances taking place to tackle infertility risk distorting and damaging relations between family members.
The U.S. government-funded research also offers the prospect of a 'miracle pill' which staves off the menopause, allowing women to wait longer to have a child.
It centres on stem cells, widely seen as a repair kit for the body. Scientists at Stanford University in California found the right cocktail of chemicals and vitamins to coax the cells into becoming eggs and sperm.
The double success, published in the journal Nature, raises the prospect of men and women one day 'growing' their own sperm and eggs for use in IVF treatments.
(Excerpt) Read more at thewoodwardreport.com ...
Brave New World.
I still think its more fun the old fashioned way!
No men or women needed. So where do they get the stem cells?
Stem cells just aren’t as much fun as a good romp in the hay. There will always be kids produced by, ahem, time-tested biological methods....
Unicorns.
looks like a harvesting nightmare.
Uh...weren’t we told that stem cell research was for helping the Christopher Reeves’ and Michael J Fox’s of the world?This helps them HOW????????
More catering to those obsessed with having biological children when they should obviously be looking to adopt.
LOL. That song started to play in my head when I saw this article.
Algore? He was the inspiration for 'Love Story', created the internet, was the see-all and end-all in predicting Goreball Warming. Maybe they cloned one of his chest hairs (if he has any which I seriously doubt) and created an all new improved human being. Big Al is capable, ya know?
Yep. John Edwards told us that Christopher Reeve would get up out of the wheelchair and walk again, and he would have already done so in 2004, if not for Bush administration policy on embryonic stem cells.
Why are liberals/Democrats never called out on idiotic things that they say?????????
On the upside, it'll lessen the need for a draft.
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Exactly!
Frozen embryos are stored, forgotten and thrown away, and still they find yet another way to produce children. More money for a non-life threatening situation and less for children dying of incurable diseases.
On the downside there will be 2 clone troopers for every citizen.
It doesn’t matter how successful they are in doing this kind of stuff.
The old way of joining sperm and egg will forever be more popular.
It also raises the question of the quality of humans created by this method. What if they all die by age 20?
Our first question must be concerned with the race of these sperm and eggs:
IS THIS RACISM?
It would be great if genetic defects could be fixed, so offspring could be free from known heritable diseases. I hate the idea of passing down my bad back to future generations.
yeah, if the “parent” is white! ;-) Does give a new meaning to bottle baby.
I’m thinking about the implications for “government.” If the state can create its own serfs, they’ll just tax the hell out of everyone for the privilege of creating them and taking the jobs “citizens won’t do.” After a 100 years, what might you have? Make a heckuva sci-fi novel.
What makes you think that those “defects” might not be useful in the evolutionary scheme?
There is a natural order to things - whether created by a higher power or evolved or designed evolution. This sort of nonsense is an aberration to humanity and will only cause the end of the natural order of things on this planet.
What next? We only need certain cells in a lab to replicate mankind? We need not have women and men pro-create? Was this not the goal of the 1930's facists to create a superior race?
I don't care what your beliefs are, but this is extremely dangerous and who knows what the ultimate unintended consequences could be.
Google: "I Am Legend". This is a very very bad avenue to pursue. These types of advances in science without social controls scare me and should be put down as strongly as possible. There are too many opportunities for the wrong people to abuse such science. Think about how so many scientific discoveries have been abused. This would be the ultimate abuse on mankind.
I am dumbfounded that "scientists" (learned men/women) can't foresee the ultimate outcome of this. It will end in holocaust. Better to see the nukes drop now and end it all.
Do you think that the government could ever do that efficiently? We would get
ten baby Obama’s for every one Einstein.
What makes them think that scientists can see the future? Frankenstein anyone?
Here’s a weird question: Can you make an egg from a male’s stem cells?
Gay marriage just got a boost.
Amazing that it can be done. I would love to see humans having the capability to regrow lost limbs. It seems like a sci fi thing, but I believe someday it will be. Crabs, starfish, and lobsters possess the genes that do it, and who knows, it may someday be used in humans. Far fetched or impossible? Hmmmmm, like so many other things were, to those who lived 200 years ago, when the fastest thing on wheels was a roman chariot.
I’m more intrigued by advancements in robotics and artificial organs.
Regrowing a limb that’s just as good as a mint condition original organ or limb sounds good, but when you consider that we may be able to build a machine that’s 2x, 3x, 4x better, and in the case or external organs looks and feels natural, I’d opt for being a human/machine hybrid.
I think most people would.
I’d opt for being a human/machine hybrid.
I think most people would ....................... Oh Yeah! I can then throw away the Viagra!
Interfacing in a natural way with the nervous system would be the biggest challenge. When we can get a cyber replacement arm that can play piano as well as the arm that was lost, then we have news.
Of course, the process of growing a new arm would be ethically and morally troublesome if a whole new body had to be grown in order to get it.
Arrrrrgh... I’m just a love machine....
Leave it up to the government and the human race will soon cease to exist.
It is hard enough to get used to an artificial leg. The whole body has to adjust.
Oh my gosh, you and I were thinking on the same wave-length! I was just thinking of a line in that song; where it says something like: “Not going to need a husband, nor need your wife-
you’ll pick your son, pick your daughter too-
from the bottom of a long glass tube”. I don’t have the exact lyrics handy, so I’ll have to paraphrase them partly! That is just weird, isn’t it?
No sh*t. I want. I want. I want. Therefore, I deserve. Sorry, you can't reproduce, but there are thousands and thousands of children around the World you could adopt.
So, science and society should change the entire natural order of this planet to please who WANT, not need?
While I understand the inherent desires of a couple to have their own bio-children, I am disgusted with this entire idea of mixing human male sperm and female eggs in a petri dish to produce a human being. This is simply obscene.
What's next? Manipulated DNA with the male sperm and the female egg to produce a specific human product??? That would be the next step down into the Marxist playground.
As I said in another thread, this was a goal of Hitler's master race experiments.
If this happens, our children and grand-children will grow up watching the end of humanity as we know it. They will have no human compass bearing. They will be taught it is good in the public school system and grow up believing it is the way of the New World Order. Think ATLAS SHRUGGED!
This crap and more that is growing and is coming will absolutely destroy this nation. I'm done. I've got my supplies.
These were embryonic stem cells.
Who is "them"?
Source?
What source? They all are. Name one instance where embryonic cells have not become cancerous. One success, please prove me wrong...
“There will always be kids produced by, ahem, time-tested biological methods....”
As in................................................doing the nasty.....getting it on.....doing the wild thing.....?
The article above?
I quoted them in post #42. They are looking for skin cells. You seem to be more arguing than responding.
I should say our elites. By and large they know nothing of science, or scientists. They don’;t know how it is crafted, or that scientists are simply people who are good at their job but are less capable of predicting the remote future of their field than many science fiction writers.
Embryonic stem cell research is a bit like atomic fusion. Hard to make a “bottle “that will contain it.
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