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Victory for Obama Over Military Lobby [And Loss for U.S. and Obama Says "More Waste To Cut"!]
NYTimes ^ | October 28th 2009

Posted on 10/28/2009 6:42:28 PM PDT by Steelfish

Victory for Obama Over Military Lobby

CHRISTOPHER DREW October 28, 2009

When the Obama administration proposed canceling a host of expensive weapons systems last spring, some of the military industry’s allies in Congress assumed, as they had in the past, that they would have the final say.

But as the president signed a $680 billion military policy bill on Wednesday, it was clear that he had succeeded in paring back nearly all of the programs and setting a tone of greater restraint than the Pentagon had seen in many years.

Now the question is whether Mr. Obama can sustain that push next year, when the midterm elections are likely to make Congress more resistant to further cuts and job losses.

White House officials say Mr. Obama took advantage of a rare political moment to break through one of Washington’s most powerful lobbies and trim more weapons systems than any president had in decades.

Rahm Emanuel, the White House chief of staff, said Wednesday that the plan was to threaten a veto over a prominent program — in this case, the F-22 fighter jet — “to show we were willing to expend political capital and could win on something that people thought we could not.”

Once the Senate voted in July to stop buying F-22s, Mr. Emanuel said in an interview, that success “reverberated down” to help sustain billions of dollars of cuts in Army modernization, missile defense and other programs.

Mr. Emanuel said the strategy emerged when the defense secretary, (snip)

And Senator John McCain of Arizona, the former Republican presidential candidate, who has criticized the Pentagon’s cost overruns, provided Mr. Obama with political cover to make the cuts without being seen as soft on the military.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: liberalmedia; mediabias; nyslimes

1 posted on 10/28/2009 6:42:29 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

All part of the plan. Destroy the military so we’re helpless against the invading muslims.


2 posted on 10/28/2009 6:44:13 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I hate all politicians...including republicans.)
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To: Steelfish
So how many jobs is this alone going to cost America?

He's weakening America militarily and economically in one fell swoop.

3 posted on 10/28/2009 6:44:58 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: Steelfish

And yet this is they guy who runs up the largest yearly deficit in the history of the country.


4 posted on 10/28/2009 6:45:57 PM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: Nachum

Ping.


5 posted on 10/28/2009 6:46:29 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Steelfish
Antagonizing the military in wartime is not a smart thing to do.

This communist crypto-muslim does nothing but.

Reap, Sow.

6 posted on 10/28/2009 6:49:34 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Steelfish

So basically he’s reducing spending on things that are constitutional to spend money on unconstitutional.


7 posted on 10/28/2009 6:49:54 PM PDT by Anti-MSM (Personal responsibility...what a concept!)
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To: Steelfish

Can the NY Slimes slobber over the president any more? Disgusting.


8 posted on 10/28/2009 6:51:07 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Steelfish

Wow. Who could have seen this coming? </s>


9 posted on 10/28/2009 6:51:55 PM PDT by Flag_This (ACORN delenda est)
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To: the anti-liberal

It already cost mine.


10 posted on 10/28/2009 6:52:49 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Steelfish
And Senator John McCain of Arizona, the former Republican presidential candidate, who has criticized the Pentagon’s cost overruns, provided Mr. Obama with political cover to make the cuts without being seen as soft on the military.

Now wasnt that nice of Mr. McCain?

11 posted on 10/28/2009 6:53:11 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: darkangel82

buy the newspaper, list the advertisers, and post to boycott their businesses. the will not have a venue soon.


12 posted on 10/28/2009 6:54:32 PM PDT by gibtx2 (End Tenure)
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To: Steelfish
And Senator John McCain of Arizona, the former Republican presidential candidate, who has criticized the Pentagon’s cost overruns, provided Mr. Obama with political cover to make the cuts without being seen as soft on the military.

Why is it that McCain's name always pops up when something bad happens?

13 posted on 10/28/2009 6:54:35 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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To: Steelfish; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


14 posted on 10/28/2009 6:55:31 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Steelfish

Confirming yet one more time that Zero is on the opposing team.


15 posted on 10/28/2009 6:57:08 PM PDT by Check6 (Our government is intentionally killing our country.)
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To: sean327

Ouch. Sorry to hear that - Boeing is opening a plant in N. Carolina, might be worth looking into...


16 posted on 10/28/2009 6:58:23 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: lowbridge

McPain seems to go out of his way to help 0 quite often. Even during the Presidential election campaign.


17 posted on 10/28/2009 7:00:35 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: Anti-MSM

This is a replay of Clinton, he decreased DOD spending and increased just about everything else. We will see how this works out over the next few years.


18 posted on 10/28/2009 7:01:33 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Steelfish

Only one department of government is being cut. The hated miliatary, for 50 years a target of the lunatic left Democrats. And yes, that dim wit McCain and his butt boy Lindsey Graham helped provide cover. Emperor Obama has not the slightest interest in saving money as shown in his other programs, but he has great interest in neutering the military and playing golf and traveling the globe while Americans die waiting on his new policy for Afghanistan.


19 posted on 10/28/2009 7:01:58 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Steelfish

The article is right: Obama and his arm, the NYT, consider it a victory whenever they weaken `Amerika’.


20 posted on 10/28/2009 7:04:44 PM PDT by tumblindice (IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: Steelfish
The king of trillion dollar deficits. Printing debt as an economic distraction. Destroy their jobs, make them more dependent, cut the military... So does the Commander-in-Chief.

'My main goal is to destroy my main job description.' Hard to fathom the 'informed' mentality it takes to support this man.
21 posted on 10/28/2009 7:07:04 PM PDT by allmost
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To: tumblindice

Wait till NYC is attacked again....I doubt that DC will be attacked....at least not until after 2012


22 posted on 10/28/2009 7:13:15 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Democrats are RACISTS and are afraid of losing their PLANTATION workers)
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To: Cyber Liberty

McCain is evil. When he rejected John Hagee’s endorsement I knew something was up. But the dumb ass made a big mistake. He introduced Sarah to the world! As usual, the devil overplayed his hand. hee hee


23 posted on 10/28/2009 7:27:41 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I hate all politicians...including republicans.)
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To: Anti-MSM
So basically he’s reducing spending on things that are constitutional to spend money on unconstitutional.

Huh? We spend $654 billion in FY2009 and $680 billion in FY2010 and that's a reduction?

24 posted on 10/28/2009 7:32:57 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
The kicker is that the Bush Administration paid for Defense out of the Defense budget and had War Supplemental bills to cover a lot of the costs of Iraq and Afghanistan. The supplementals are getting few and far between and the real amounts to the military are going down.

If you are a fighter pilot and you aren't deployed you are riding the pine. In the Navy they are calling 11 hours a month the "tactical hard deck." In reality it means a U.S. strike fighter pilot that is going to drop bombs in Afghanistan next year is flying less than a Chinese Su-27 pilot in a peace time setting.

Change you can make believe in.

25 posted on 10/28/2009 7:55:09 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: lowbridge; MestaMachine
(Mesta: I'm warning you, before you read this post take copious amounts of Advil!)

And Senator John McCain of Arizona, the former Republican presidential candidate, who has criticized the Pentagon’s cost overruns, provided Mr. Obama with political cover to make the cuts without being seen as soft on the military.

Now wasn't that nice of Mr. McCain?

Isn't it nice of McLame to carry the water?!


26 posted on 10/28/2009 8:04:07 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: 444Flyer

I’ve been hearing that Obama will be “paying” (bribing)off the Taliban on my local talk radio show tonight. I knew about the Italians doing this but have you heard anything about this today?


27 posted on 10/28/2009 8:19:37 PM PDT by Saoirise (Right the wrong and free SGT. Hutchins, NOW!)
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To: Saoirise

“US to pay Taliban to switch sides”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8329129.stm

“The US military in Afghanistan is to be allowed to pay Taliban fighters who renounce violence against the government in Kabul.

The move is included in a defence bill which President Obama has signed...”


28 posted on 10/28/2009 8:25:37 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: 444Flyer

Found it:
“President Obama on Wednesday signed a $680 billion defense appropriations bill, which will pay for military operations in the 2010 fiscal year. The bill includes a Taliban reintegration provision under the Commander’s Emergency Response Program, which is now receiving $1.3 billion. CERP funding also is intended for humanitarian relief and reconstruction projects at commanders’ discretion”

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/28/afghanistan.taliban.pay/index.html


29 posted on 10/28/2009 8:27:12 PM PDT by Saoirise (Right the wrong and free SGT. Hutchins, NOW!)
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To: 444Flyer

Found it:
“President Obama on Wednesday signed a $680 billion defense appropriations bill, which will pay for military operations in the 2010 fiscal year. The bill includes a Taliban reintegration provision under the Commander’s Emergency Response Program, which is now receiving $1.3 billion. CERP funding also is intended for humanitarian relief and reconstruction projects at commanders’ discretion”

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/28/afghanistan.taliban.pay/index.html


30 posted on 10/28/2009 8:27:15 PM PDT by Saoirise (Right the wrong and free SGT. Hutchins, NOW!)
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To: 444Flyer
MELTDOWN









31 posted on 10/28/2009 8:28:09 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: Canadian Outrage

ping


32 posted on 10/28/2009 8:30:33 PM PDT by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: allmost

I seem to remember another Democrat President who pissed off the military-industrial complex. He died in Dallas.


33 posted on 10/28/2009 8:50:56 PM PDT by .44 Special (Táimid Buarch)
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To: Steelfish
How's that $786 Billion Stimulus Porkulus working out for you, America?...

Do you feel safer?

34 posted on 10/28/2009 8:51:06 PM PDT by Gritty (You have to kill fanatics. Nothing else works. - Ralph Peters)
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To: Steelfish

Is this the military budget? If so, hasn’t it been quite a while since the military budget didn’t have the word “trillion” in it?

Please correct me if i’m reading this wrong.


35 posted on 10/28/2009 9:06:15 PM PDT by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: Steelfish

BTTT

Funkin’ Obama


36 posted on 10/28/2009 11:21:08 PM PDT by hattend (We should stop comparing Obama to Hitler. At least Hitler got the Olympic Games to come to Berlin.)
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To: Rome2000

I pray he REAPS very very soon for the sake of America and her people. This obvious America destroyer is a runaway train and a steamroller all at once. I really pray that America rises up while she still can. CO


37 posted on 10/29/2009 11:18:16 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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