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NY-23: Steele factually wrong while talking with Hannity; Scozzafava is for card check
MarkLevinFan.com ^ | October 28, 2009 | Tim Sumner

Posted on 10/28/2009 6:11:28 PM PDT by Sergeant Tim

RNC Chairman Michael Steele needs to do his homework before going back on Sean Hannity's radio show. Today, Hannity asked him about the Republican National Committee and the National Republican Congressional Committee's support of the liberal Republican in the race against Conservative Party and Republican Doug Hoffman for the House seat vacated by John McHugh. Here's a brief excerpt; listen closely to Steele disputing Hannity about Scozzafava's position on card check:

The two sources of proof that Michael Steele is mistaken are Dede Scozzafava and Dede Scozzafava, in writing and on tape.

On Oct 19, 2009, the all things liberal labor In These Times reported:

In These Times obtained a copy of a candidate questionnaire from the AFL-CIO's legislative department. In that document, Scozzafava pledged to co-sponsor EFCA with card check, as did her Democratic opponent Bill Owens. To wit:

If elected, would you co-sponsor and vote for the Employee Free Choice Act (S.800/H.R. 1041), which passed the House by a vote of 241-185 on March 1, 2007 but was blocked by a Senate filibuster in June, 2007 (the Senate failed to invoke cloture by a vote of 51-48 vote)?

The Employee Free Choice Act, introduced by Senator Kennedy in the Senate and Representative George Miller in the House, would require employers to honor their workers’ decision to join a union after a majority of them signed a union authorization card or petition; establishes first contract mediation and arbitration; and creates meaningful penalties against employers who interfere with, coerce or fire workers for attempting to join a union. OWEN [sic]– YES, DEDE - YES

That same day, John McCormack of The Weekly Standard reported:

"I asked Assemblywoman Scozzafava if she supports card check. "Yes, yes I do," she replied."

The Scozzafava campaign quickly backtracked after first alleging that John McCormark yelled at her while asking questions. They did so when he played the full audio of the incident for the Associated Press and they confirmed his version of events.

Before the last shred of their credibility is lost, perhaps Newt Gingrich and Michael Steele should ask John McCormack if they can also listen to that audio.

Note: Visit DougHoffmanForCongress.com.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; conservatism; doughoffman; elections; hannity; hoffman; liberals; newt; nrcc; ny23; rino; rnc; scozzafava; steele; talkradio; whigpartyii

1 posted on 10/28/2009 6:11:28 PM PDT by Sergeant Tim
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To: Sergeant Tim

These clueless Republican leaders are not paying attention. They have not looking into what Sozzafava does, or does not stand for. They have completely relied upon recommendations of their staff, who have queried the state and local Republican Party officials and have gotten reassurances that she is a “true Republican”.

Such stupidity and laziness will not help them much going forward, we are all growing tired of it.


2 posted on 10/28/2009 6:15:16 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: cc2k

Ping!


3 posted on 10/28/2009 6:20:32 PM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Steele needs to go. If the RNC is scared to fire a black man- then replace him with the guy from Ohio to save face-but Steele has to go.


4 posted on 10/28/2009 6:21:06 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Yup, Steele got it wrong on card check. Scozzafava is supporting it BIG TIME. That looms as large for me as any issue I might have with her social liberalism.


5 posted on 10/28/2009 6:22:55 PM PDT by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: sneakers; SoCalPol; sofaman; sofas dad; soloNYer; sono; Sparko; Springman; SRJeff; StarFan; ...

Ping!


6 posted on 10/28/2009 6:25:02 PM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: centurion316

These clowns make the idiots at the White House look like geniuses. How can they justify to their donors the hundreds of thousand dollars wasted on a third place finish in NY-23 and nothing spent on CA-10 where Harmer could be close to a win? They are poster boys of incompetence.


7 posted on 10/28/2009 6:25:17 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Steele and Newt are short on facts. Short on understanding that the right side of the “big tent” has been sliced off and disappeared into the night. It’s gone. Won’t return.


8 posted on 10/28/2009 6:25:54 PM PDT by Paladin2 (I'm not for Newt. He's a N0-Brainer these days)
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To: Sergeant Tim
Is there anyone out there who is actually surprised that the RNC and Republican establishment have no clue whatsoever as to what Sozzafava’s positions are?
9 posted on 10/28/2009 6:29:33 PM PDT by detective
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To: icwhatudo

I wish we could gather the support to create a Conservative National Committee and a Conservative National Campaign Committee et al.


10 posted on 10/28/2009 6:29:45 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Sergeant Tim
RNC Chairman Michael Steele needs to do his homework ....

Yeah. He needs to do it someplace else. RINO-B-Gone: A market in need of a product. Ya' listenin' Ortho?

11 posted on 10/28/2009 6:30:34 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: icwhatudo

I agree!


12 posted on 10/28/2009 6:36:26 PM PDT by classified
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To: Sergeant Tim

You know what is so disappointing about these people is, Sergeant Tim? I bother to check out all of my facts before I make a decision. The establishment Republicans don’t bother. They have lived so long in the world of faxed talking points that they just live in that world. They don’t seem capable of looking at reality any longer.


13 posted on 10/28/2009 6:36:34 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: detective; cc2k
Is there anyone out there who is actually surprised that the RNC and Republican establishment have no clue whatsoever as to what Sozzafava’s positions are?

Given his history, Steele might be behaving foolishly, but do you really think Newt is that stupid?

I don't. To me, such an appearance is a cover of plausible deniability.

14 posted on 10/28/2009 6:36:43 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: icwhatudo

That guy from Ohio, Ken Blackwell, would not be pulling this crap! He should have gotten the gig in the first place, he’s a real conservative.


15 posted on 10/28/2009 6:39:12 PM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Ann Coulter is on with Hannity now re Hoffman.
Ann is on a roll


16 posted on 10/28/2009 6:39:42 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Sergeant Tim
As I understand it, the RNC head's job is primarily fund raising. The second job is to know the candidates.

I doubt Steele can function as a fund raiser. He's more than documented his lack of knowledge of the candidates.

Why is he still drawing salary and expense money?

17 posted on 10/28/2009 6:40:44 PM PDT by Mobties
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To: Sergeant Tim

The Republican Party is run by Liberals. This election is exposing them, but they will probably not be held accountable.


18 posted on 10/28/2009 6:40:49 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Sergeant Tim

The dude used to be Lt. Governor of my state, The Peoples Republic of Merlin (that’s Mary Land to youse guys). I used to have some respect for him but listening to his weaseling today re: ScuzzieFussy erased any that I had. Apparently someone removed his and Newt’s testicles. Sarah Palin probably has a great recipe for RINO nuts.


19 posted on 10/28/2009 6:46:06 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: Sergeant Tim

I just donated to Doug Hoffman’s campaign. Woo hoo.


20 posted on 10/28/2009 6:46:57 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Bahbah

Here I am, a nobody, and I can easily find the facts. So, was it they could not find them or are they lying? I can’t answer that question but either way Newt and Steele are wrong on on point and with their support for a liberal.


21 posted on 10/28/2009 6:51:00 PM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

the RNC is stuck on stupid


22 posted on 10/28/2009 7:02:11 PM PDT by jenk
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To: Sergeant Tim
Here I am, a nobody, and I can easily find the facts. So, was it they could not find them or are they lying? I can’t answer that question but either way Newt and Steele are wrong on on point and with their support for a liberal.

Steele was lying. He probably won't be going back on a National radio before the vote next week and he knew it so he took advantage of the situation to spread some mis-information.

I do not believe for a second he did not know the truth about this worm of a candidate.
23 posted on 10/28/2009 7:19:04 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Truth is a Weapon

and nothing spent on CA-10 where Harmer could be close to a win?
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Got that right. If heads start rolling, and I believe they will, it will be the money wasted on NY-23 instead of pumping that money into Ca.

It’s one thing to support a nominee verbally, but to waste money is another.


24 posted on 10/28/2009 7:24:04 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Sergeant Tim
Steele is FACTUALLY...

A RINO idiot.

25 posted on 10/28/2009 7:30:56 PM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Michael Steele has been a huge disappointment from day one.


26 posted on 10/28/2009 7:39:14 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: SoConPubbie
"Steele was lying. He probably won't be going back on a National radio before the vote next week and he knew it so he took advantage of the situation to spread some mis-information.

I do not believe for a second he did not know the truth about this worm of a candidate."

I agree. Steele knows exactly how liberal and anti-conservative Scozzafava is. Steele is nothing but a liberal DNC plant in the Republican party.

27 posted on 10/28/2009 8:08:33 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Sergeant Tim
Need some freepin' on THIS POLL

Pass it on

28 posted on 10/28/2009 8:10:20 PM PDT by Baynative (With Obama, America is celebrating it's acceptance of mediocrity.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

At the beginning of the interview Steele says she was vetted through the primary process. Not so.

No primary thus there is no primary process.

The only place vetting her would get her a legitamate passing grade would be in Castro’s Cuba.


29 posted on 10/28/2009 8:30:04 PM PDT by HonestConservative (http://www.doughoffmanforcongress.com)
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To: Carry_Okie

I agree. IMO these guys aren’t stupid—they know exactly what her positions are and are outright lying about her. Gingrich yesterday flagrantly lied by saying McHugh, the GOP rep this election is replacing, is pro-choice (the implication being that it was then okay for Scozzafava to hold the same positions). Blatant lie—McHugh is 100% pro-life.

The establishment GOP wants leftist candidates in office. That way they can keep backslapping their donk cronies at DC cocktail parties, and bipartisanly keep their snouts in the trough.


30 posted on 10/28/2009 8:55:42 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Michael Steele turned out to have been overrated. Ken Blackwell wouldn’t have made such errors. But Blackwell is more unpopular in OH than Steele is in MD.


31 posted on 10/28/2009 8:58:23 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: ellery
I really don't see why Gingrich is so far into the leftist tank, but it is obvious that he is, cap and trade and all.
32 posted on 10/28/2009 9:15:52 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: All; Chesterbelloc; Mobties; UnwashedPeasant; 50cal Smokepole; Baynative; jenk; DocH; dusttoyou; ...
This is a FReply all, not a ping list. I hope some of you can help spread the word about the information I have.

I was screaming at my radio when I heard Steele on Hannity yesterday. So much of what Steele was saying was completely untrue. Not just about card check, but about the selection process, and about some of her other positions as well.

No only was Steele factually wrong, I was upset that Hannity hadn’t done his homework and didn’t hold his feet to the fire and confront him with the facts. He let it go and didn’t challenge Steele when he said things that just weren’t true..

I was also disappointed (but not surprised) that he didn’t ask about David Harmer and the California 10th district race. The RNC has been silent on this race. So has the NRCC. Talk radio has also been silent about David Harmer.

I bet some of the people posting on this thread are also asking, "Who is David Harmer and why should Michael Steel or Sean Hannity care about him?" Read on:


I support David Harmer for California’s 10th Congressional District (donations). He is a conservative candidate who has been a fellow at the Heritage Foundation and the Cato institute. He is committed to controlling spending, promoting economic growth, and free market solutions to todays problems.

I am also contacting the NRCC to ask why they are supporting Scozzafava in the race in upstate New York, and why they are ignoring David Harmer in this close race in California’s 10th district. Here are the numbers if anyone else wants to call:

Info from the NRCC "contact us" web page:
Contact the NRCC

Address:

320 First Street, SE
Washington, DC 20003

General Email:
website@nrcc.org

Phone:
Phone: 202-479-7000

Also, perhaps those of us who donated to the RNC or RCCC should ask for our money back so we can support the conservative candidates of our choice.

More threads ...
From the desk of
cc2k:
Candidates I support: Doug Hoffman for Congress, NY 23rd (PayPal), David Harmer for Congress, CA 10th (website for info).

Please, spread the word about these important special elections on November 3, 209: New York’s 23rd congressional district and California’s 10th congressional district.

33 posted on 10/29/2009 4:56:37 AM PDT by cc2k (I have donated to David Harmer, have you? [check my recent reply posts])
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To: Sergeant Tim

Michael Steele is a nice guy who’s in way over his head. If the GOP truly wants to win, replace Steele with Tom Delay.


34 posted on 10/29/2009 5:13:35 AM PDT by sono (Healthcare Reform isn't reform. It's a hostile takeover.)
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To: sono
Sorry, I like Delay but that is not his strength. He is much better as the man who troubleshoots or make things happen for the leader. He needs to be the man in the office moving policy and not making policy. He is the greatest at that job.
35 posted on 10/29/2009 5:19:42 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: dusttoyou
I voted for Ken Blackwell for OH Gov.

I know Ken Blackwell.

Ken Blackwell is no michelle steal.

36 posted on 10/29/2009 5:38:18 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: cc2k

You might find it easier to get your point across to distill your looooong post into something more readable and “to the point”.

Regardless of the validity of your concerns, I for one, am less than pleased to have your rant posted on nearly every thread and now pinged to the whole FR.


37 posted on 10/29/2009 6:59:44 AM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Steele is just obambi light.


38 posted on 11/02/2009 12:35:26 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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