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Treasury, GMAC in talks for 3rd round of US aid
AP/GoogleNews ^ | 10/28/09

Posted on 10/28/2009 8:39:39 AM PDT by Kartographer

GMAC, the former lending arm of General Motors Co., is in talks with the Treasury Department for a third injection of taxpayer aid, a further sign of the U.S. government's entrenchment in the U.S. auto industry.

The Treasury Department mandated earlier this year that GMAC Financial Services raise an additional $11.5 billion in capital after undergoing a "stress test" along with 18 other banks. While other banks deemed undercapitalized have been able to raise funds from private investors, GMAC has been forced to go back to the government.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: bailout; bailouts; banking; economy; gmac; madoff; taxes; youpayforthis
I can't decide which picture is most appropriate for this story this:

Or

1 posted on 10/28/2009 8:39:42 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

“I can’t decide which picture is most appropriate for this story this.”

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How about some dead-assed Union slobs picketing productive people at work.


2 posted on 10/28/2009 8:41:18 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Kartographer

PREDICTION:

GM goes bankrupt in another 3-7 years.

Saw a UAW memo to employees boasting how they gave away no concessions except for those on a pension. That means GM still pays people 70 dollars per hour to turn a screw.


3 posted on 10/28/2009 8:57:42 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
" That means GM still pays people 70 dollars per hour to turn a screw."
There are professionals in Vegas that will do it for 50 dollars and they have to give their pimps half of that!
4 posted on 10/28/2009 9:00:27 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; EyeGuy; stephenjohnbanker; Condor51; Landru; GOPJ; maggief; CutePuppy; sickoflibs; ...
HUH? Treasury and GMAC in talks for 3rd round of US aid?

THE BIGGER QUESTION IS---WHERE IS THE MONEY?

Circa Jan 2009, Ben Bernanke, Hank Paulson, and GMAC's J Ezra Merkin---salivating to divvy up the taxpayers' billions. Americans have not yet learned the full extent of official corruption, thievery, schemes and scams involving $TRILLIONS of tax dollars aided and abetted by the dupes on Capitol Hill.

CONGRESS (gag) ACTS---Taxpayers Face Heavy Losses on Auto Bailout. A Congressional Oversight Panel recommends the Treasury Dept perform a legal analysis for providing TARP funds to (1) GM, (2) Chrysler, (3) GMAC, their financing arm.

THE WHIFF OF MADOFF J, Ezra Merkin---ousted head of GMAC (GM financing arm)---got a $6 Billion taxpayer bailout---and was also feeding hundreds of millions to jailed money launderer Bernie Madoff from Merkin's four offshore investment vehicles.

BAILOUT SWILLERS Stephen A. Fineberg's private equity firm---Cerberus Capital Management LP--- also owns Chrysler Motors. The US Treasury bought a $5 billion stake in GMAC (GM financing arm), and lent $1 billion to GM. This latest loan is IN ADDITION to the $13.4 billion the US Treasury lent earlier to Merkin's GMAC, and Fineberg's Chrysler.

SWILLING TIMELINE In 2006, GM sold 51% of Merkin's GMAC to Feinberg's private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management LP (which also owns Chrysler).

HOGGING AT THE PUBLIC TROUGH In May 2004, Feinberg's "private investment group," Cerberus Capital Management, LP became majority owner of IAP Worldwide Services, Inc, one of the US Army’s largest contractors in Iraq. In Afghanistan, Feinberg's IAP runs a drug/addiction center" in Kunduz---Kunduz is the largest opium supplier in the world. BUSY LITTLE BEAVER IAP also provides infrastructure support for the British Ministry of Defence in Kandahar....apart from supporting the US Army in Basra.

BAILED OUT AND STILL SWILLING Stephen A. Feinberg's IAP also serves a broad array of federal clients including the US DOD, NASA, the US Geological Survey, the US Agency for International Development, the IRS, and a variety of other federal agencies.

BACKSTORY GMAC's Merkin and Chrysler's Feinberg paid the Israeli govt $500M to buy Bank Leumi. An “inside” deal not just anybody could get. Bank Leumi looms large in the missing billion dollar taxpayer bailouts since Israel is the only place in the world where an individual can fly-in, got o a bank with a suitcase full of cash, and nobody asks where they got it, or whether taxes were paid on it.

5 posted on 10/28/2009 9:08:44 AM PDT by Liz (ALL FOX---ALL THE TIME---24/7)
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To: Liz

“THE BIGGER QUESTION IS-—WHERE IS THE MONEY?”

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Paying off thousands of boats and deluxe cottages around hundreds of lakes in Michigan, the property of those hard-working Union members.


6 posted on 10/28/2009 9:12:18 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Para-Ord.45
How much do those make that wait in the ready room to turn a screw. LOL

The tax payer has been so screwed by Tarp. if Jorge had just had enough back bone to let them go under. Just damn.

7 posted on 10/28/2009 9:18:25 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: Liz
Pretty well covers it!!!
8 posted on 10/28/2009 9:20:50 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: EyeGuy
......thousands of boats and deluxe cottages around hundreds of lakes in Michigan........

Yeah, well that would be some of their ”toys.”

The Really Big Money is stashed offshore in numbered accounts............we're talking billions here.

9 posted on 10/28/2009 9:23:33 AM PDT by Liz (ALL FOX---ALL THE TIME---24/7)
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To: Para-Ord.45

One thing you know for sure...
GM is solid until Nov 6, 2012


10 posted on 10/28/2009 9:24:01 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: EyeGuy

GM and chrysler are fast becoming a much larger version of amtrak. Never show a profit, bleed money, and advertise your product with taxpayer funds.


11 posted on 10/28/2009 9:24:07 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: Kartographer

If I could represent the Treasury Department, those would be very short talks: “No!”


12 posted on 10/28/2009 9:25:25 AM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: Liz

“The Really Big Money is stashed offshore in numbered accounts............we’re talking billions here.”

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If that is indeed the case, I hope Sarah Palin in her upcoming Presidential Administration, hires an aggressive Attorney General with cojones the size of bowling balls.


13 posted on 10/28/2009 9:29:11 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Kartographer; EyeGuy; stephenjohnbanker; Condor51; Landru; GOPJ; maggief; CutePuppy; sickoflibs; ...
THIS JUST IN VP Joe Biden re-opens GM auto plant in Wilmington, DE (his hometown). Obama appointed Biden to handle stimulus trillions How much TARP money was used? Probably will never be profitable, and at some point it will reclose. TARP taxpayer dollars will be flushed down the toilet. So what message does this send?

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This'll make you feel better, FReepers (/snic).

Obama appoints Biden to handle stimulus trillions
American Spectator | 6.8.09 | By Philip Klein
FR Posted by Behind Liberal Lines

"Hi there, Americans. Hunter and James, my son and brother are gonna help me disperse the trillion dollar stimulus. "

FOLLOW THE MONEY (Reuters) – A fund of hedge funds run by two members of VP Joe Biden's family was marketed exclusively by firms controlled by Texas financier, R. Allen Stanford, charged by regulators with an $8 billion offshore fraud, the WSJ said.

The Bidens $50 million fund was jointly branded between the Bidens' Paradigm Global Advisors LLC and the offshore Stanford Financial Group entity, and was known as the Paradigm Stanford Capital Management Core Alternative Fund, the WSJ said.

Stanford-related offshore companies marketed the Bidens' fund to investors. Paradigm Global Advisors is owned through a holding company by the vice president's son, Hunter, and Joe Biden's brother, James.

14 posted on 10/28/2009 9:50:38 AM PDT by Liz (ALL FOX---ALL THE TIME---24/7)
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To: Liz; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER

My goodness this has been kept rather quiet:

Obama appoints Biden to handle stimulus trillions
American Spectator | 6.8.09 | By Philip Klein
FR Posted by Behind Liberal Lines

“Hi there, Americans. Hunter and James, my son and brother are gonna help me disperse the trillion dollar stimulus. “

FOLLOW THE MONEY (Reuters) – A fund of hedge funds run by two members of VP Joe Biden’s family was marketed exclusively by firms controlled by Texas financier, R. Allen Stanford, charged by regulators with an $8 billion offshore fraud, the WSJ said.

The Bidens $50 million fund was jointly branded between the Bidens’ Paradigm Global Advisors LLC and the offshore Stanford Financial Group entity, and was known as the Paradigm Stanford Capital Management Core Alternative Fund, the WSJ said.

Stanford-related offshore companies marketed the Bidens’ fund to investors. Paradigm Global Advisors is owned through a holding company by the vice president’s son, Hunter, and Joe Biden’s brother, James.


15 posted on 10/28/2009 10:42:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Liz
So I just heard. Shazam!!
GMAC knows what we all know: ,i>Get while there's something [left] to get. LOL

*Big* BTTT 4#5. ;^)

16 posted on 10/28/2009 11:12:52 AM PDT by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, you're a dolt.)
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To: Liz

“FOLLOW THE MONEY (Reuters) – A fund of hedge funds run by two members of VP Joe Biden’s family was marketed exclusively by firms controlled by Texas financier, R. Allen Stanford, charged by regulators with an $8 billion offshore fraud”

“Stanford-related offshore companies marketed the Bidens’ fund to investors. Paradigm Global Advisors is owned through a holding company by the vice president’s son, Hunter, and Joe Biden’s brother, James. “

Grand theft, misappropriation of funds, malfeasance, financial fraud, tax evasion, ah whatever! They are Democrats, so it’s all for the common good.


17 posted on 10/28/2009 12:08:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Liz; Landru

“Larceny on Parade”


18 posted on 10/28/2009 12:11:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

What ever happened to the bond holders of GM ?


19 posted on 10/28/2009 12:13:41 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Kartographer
The last time we bailed GMAC out they transferred " 5 million in preferred stock to the government." Who got it. The unions? The Obamas? Senators, Congressmen/women? Who? My guess it's the unions since they already own GM.
20 posted on 10/28/2009 2:55:44 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (President Obama agreed to commit an additional 40,000 troops to help fight Fox News," Jay Leno)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
How does this sound? They are sooo corrupt, wouldn't you like to hang them. lol..
21 posted on 10/28/2009 3:00:13 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (President Obama agreed to commit an additional 40,000 troops to help fight Fox News," Jay Leno)
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To: Irish Eyes

“What ever happened to the bond holders of GM ?”

Obama burned them all.

RIP


22 posted on 10/28/2009 3:03:05 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: NRA2BFree

I would. However, years from now, when they try to con God, they will be out of luck ;-)


23 posted on 10/28/2009 3:04:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Liz
FBD, checkout #17.

"Grand theft, misappropriation of funds, malfeasance, financial fraud, tax evasion, ah whatever! They are Democrats, so it’s all for the common good."

BWWWWHAAAAAAAA!!!
Notice how it's everyone *around* these thieves who takes the fall, never them. One of those "Make you a deal you can't refuse" things, huh. LOL

As the onion's layers are peeled away?
Things just keep getting more & more peculiar.
This calls for a BIG Shazam!! LOL

"Larceny on Parade"

Yea, minus a marching band.
Good grief.

24 posted on 10/28/2009 3:08:07 PM PDT by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, you're a dolt.)
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To: FBD
See #24.
Geshhhhh, whadda dork.
25 posted on 10/28/2009 3:08:49 PM PDT by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, you're a dolt.)
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To: Landru

“Notice how it’s everyone *around* these thieves who takes the fall, never them.”

Funny how that works ;-)


26 posted on 10/28/2009 3:12:25 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Re: GM bond holders.

Obama burned them all.

RIP

So it is totaly over now for them?

27 posted on 10/28/2009 3:16:11 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: stephenjohnbanker
"Funny how that works"

Uh-huh, hilarious. ;^)
Regular ol' barrel of monkeys.

Only in America. LOL

28 posted on 10/28/2009 3:17:32 PM PDT by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, you're a dolt.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

LOL! That’s one con job that won’t work. ;o)


29 posted on 10/28/2009 3:18:02 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (President Obama agreed to commit an additional 40,000 troops to help fight Fox News," Jay Leno)
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To: Irish Eyes

I believe that if hell freezes over, they get the icicles ;-)


30 posted on 10/28/2009 3:36:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
:(

Afraid that was the case. My Father-in-Law REALLY took a huge hit.

31 posted on 10/28/2009 4:37:40 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes
My Father-in-Law REALLY took a huge hit.

If he was an investor, I don't think he did due diligence. The signs were in place for a long time about where GM was headed.

If he was a supplier, I can understand. It's very difficult to diversify away from a company that big.

32 posted on 10/28/2009 4:44:48 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation
He was in investor but in the last months of his life he was very ill, very stubborn and would not take advise. Most of his life was just the opposite. He had always believed in due diligence.

That is what surprised us so much.

33 posted on 10/28/2009 5:15:03 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Liz
And because these at the high end of high finance got a golden TARP the UNIONs will demand their ‘public option’ because their pensions are in as bad a shape as the high rollers are. UNIONs are where the votes turn out come election day for liberalism not the gamblers on Wall Street rows.
34 posted on 10/28/2009 9:55:07 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Liz
A fund of hedge funds run by two members of VP Joe Biden's family was marketed exclusively by firms controlled by Texas financier, R. Allen Stanford, charged by regulators with an $8 billion offshore fraud, the WSJ said.

The Bidens $50 million fund was jointly branded between the Bidens' Paradigm Global Advisors LLC and the offshore Stanford Financial Group entity, and was known as the Paradigm Stanford Capital Management Core Alternative Fund, the WSJ said.

Stanford-related offshore companies marketed the Bidens' fund to investors. Paradigm Global Advisors is owned through a holding company by the vice president's son, Hunter, and Joe Biden's brother, James.

Stanford Investors Could Get 20 Cents on the Dollar - CNBC, 2009 October 28, by Scott Cohn

Madoff Ponzi losses clear $21.2B - NYP, 2009 October 29, by Kaja Whitehouse

Bernie buddy beaned - NYP, 2009 October 29, by Kati Cornell


35 posted on 10/31/2009 6:43:52 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy; Condor51; Just mythoughts
No-nonsense Manhattan federal Judge Richard Sullivan noted the government did not seem to have "the slightest clue about what turned out to be the biggest fraud in US history"........... until Madoff confessed.

Madoff knew he was "protected” from the law. Most observers know it is a career-killer for any L/E agency to suggest that someone of Jewish heritage is doing something illegal.

In effect, Madoff was running (1) a tax evasion scheme, and, (2) a protection racket.

Madoff and his “affiliated investors,” money launderers, tax evaders, and so-called "philanthropists," colluded to keep the law at arms length----they colluded to enforce the message: "You come after us, you lose your job."

If anyone dared to suggest wrongdoing---Big Abe was hauled out to beat them down with the dreaded club of anti-Semitism.

36 posted on 11/01/2009 3:20:21 AM PST by Liz (ALL FOX---ALL THE TIME---24/7)
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To: Liz
Madoff scheme pales in comparison to what elected and appointed liars, cheats, and thieves are in the process of doing to this nation.

There was no law that required anyone to invest in Madoff. It was what you might call a ‘free’ enterprise operation that made money for some while taking from the rest. A bit of Animal House reenactment.

37 posted on 11/01/2009 5:17:31 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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