"Count me in!!"
Posted on 10/28/2009 6:58:32 AM PDT by opentalk
Remember the Danish "Muhammad cartoons" that set off riots by offended Muslims more than three years ago? The debate pitted freedom of press and speech against notions of freedom from insult of one's religion. It rages still – but now in a forum with international legal implications.
For years, Islamic nations have succeeded in passing "blasphemy" resolutions at the United Nations (in the General Assembly and in its human rights body). The measures call on states to limit religiously offensive language or speech. No one wants their beliefs ridiculed, but the freedom to disagree over faith is what allows for the free practice of religion. The resolutions are misguided, but also only symbolic, because they're nonbinding.
Symbolism no longer satisfies the sponsor of these resolutions – the Organization of the Islamic Council. Under the leadership of Pakistan, the 57-nation OIC wants to give the religious antidefamation idea legal teeth by making it part of an international convention, or legally binding treaty. Members of the UN Human Rights Council are passionately debating that idea in Geneva this week.
The United States under Barack Obama recently joined the UNHRC, maligned for years as the mouthpiece for countries that are themselves flagrant human rights abusers. A "new" council formed in 2006. President Obama's hope is that as an engaged member, the US can further reform – and its own interests. This case will test his theory.
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“Blimey! I didn’t expect a sort of Spanish Inquisition!”
But I imagine trashing Jews is still OK. ;-)
Does that mean the Arab states will have to stop producing government-manufactured anti-Jewish propaganda?
[I keed, I keed...]
“...passing “blasphemy” resolutions at the United Nations (in the General Assembly and in its human rights body)...”
No unelected foreign BASTARD is going to tell me how to speak or what I may or may not say!
Islam sucks. Come and get me!
Silence! I keel you!
Islam is a gutter cult of pedophile, homosexual freak men and abused women.
Didn't think so. How about the other way around? Of course!
Those nuts who show up in Salt Lake City to lambast the Mormons may be loud-mouthed and offensive, but they do not stop any Mormons from practicing their religion. The same is true of any other religious group. Freedom of speech does not stop anyone from practicing their religion. Those Dutch cartoons never stopped a muslim from praying or fasting or strapping a bomb on his son or any other standard muslim practice.
Time to tell these Islamofascists to KMA. Well, it’s well past time actually. So, KMA Islamofascists.
Where are the femminists when these barbarians cover up their wives and “honor kill” their daughters?
Where are the fag rights people when these uncivilized cretins hang homosexuals?
Where are the human rights sissies in the UN when these scum shout DEATH TO AMERICA and blow up a market?
Muhhamed *SPIT*
Piss be upon him.
Come and get me too.
UNaccountable bureaucrats propping up the greatest anti-truth, anti-life collective in the history of mankind.
Prophet Mohamed is so weak that he needs global laws to protect him?
Well-stated BUMP! All of the “collectives” you speak of are anti-truth, anti-individual, anti-life.
Tear off the burqa and the headscarf and underneath you have nothing but a whiney POS liberal.
I don’t wanna hear anymore about Islam. Islam is a devil-worship religion of goatherding homosexual woman-haters. They worship a big black rock like a bunch of f***ing retards. Take your religion and shove it up your asses.... it will smell better than the typical mosque. I’m sick of all you towel-headed suicide-bombing murderous lowlife. What kind of religion is this? What kind of world are you living in? You all think that Camels are high-technology, rip the sex organs off your women, and shake hands with the hand you s**t in because you are too G****d backwards to figure out that whole toilet-paper thing. Your pedophile prophet Mohammad was a sun-baked psychiatric patient with a prediliction for 9-year-old girks, a drug habit, and a lust for killing innocents. Bits of feces on a white rug has more intelligence than you Moon-worshiping homicidal maniacs. I would cut all your throats and sing while doing it, considering any missed throats as a missed opportunity. The reason you haven’t figured out indoor plumbing yet is that you all chant verses from that hideous throwback document, the Koran — which is a book of hate — until you have numbed your brain to the point that you drool. You need deportation, off the planet Earth outright Make no mistake about it, the Quran is not a document of freedom. The Quran is a document of psychosis and your Allah is the Devil.
Jews, Christians, cross dressers etc. Still all okay with the muslims. I wonder how this is going to mesh with the first amendment that supposedly still is the law of the land.
Allah be damned to a Hell of dogs and pigs which torment him for eternity.
So, judging from your subtle comment, I’d guess you’re against this idea?
You’ve got to stop holding back, Laz, tell us what you really think.
You beat me to it! Cheers for Laz
Censorship is coming.
Obama gave the International Community the internet - meaning any censorship laws passed in the UN *will* be applied to the internet regardless of where in the world you live.
It’s too bad no one gives a $h!t....
Wait until he passess the Cap and Trade bill. America will lose all it's sovernity to the U.N.
Oboma - finsihing the job his Muslim brothers failed to do on 9/11.
I don’t wanna hear anymore about Islam. Hating your religion is a BLESSING and a testament to God, since Islam is a devil-worship religion of goatherding homosexual woman-haters. They worship a big black rock like a bunch of f***ing retards. Take your religion and shove it up your asses.... it will smell better than the typical mosque. I’m sick of all you towel-headed suicide-bombing murderous lowlife. What kind of religion is this? What kind of world are you living in? You all think that Camels are high-technology, rip the sex organs off your women, and shake hands with the hand you s**t in because you are too G****d backwards to figure out that whole toilet-paper thing. Your pedophile prophet Mohammad was a sun-baked psychiatric patient with a prediliction for 9-year-old girlks, a drug habit, and a lust for killing innocents. Bits of feces on a white rug has more intelligence than you Moon-worshiping homicidal maniacs. I would cut all your throats and sing while doing it, considering any missed throats as a missed opportunity. Hey, payback is a bitch, isn't it? After all, your Komic Strip Koran ADVOCATES sawing the heads off of innocent people. I'm surprised the Koran isn't all pictures, after all, only a handful of you freakish killers can read worth a damn. The reason you haven’t figured out indoor plumbing yet is that you all chant verses from that hideous throwback document, the Koran — which is a book of hate — until you have numbed your brain to the point that you drool. You need deportation, off the planet Earth outright. Your Koran makes you believe you can 'mercy kill' young women just because they are woman.... but of course, it also makes sense to me that your woman are covered up in blankets most of the time. Most of your women look like Ron Jeremy. Your terrorism that you hold up so proudly is a sign of your sniveling cowardice. Sharia law is a horrible, evil little dark stain on the body of the legal world, and makes you believe that women are property, that homosexuality is normal, that lying is okay and that breaking contracts is par for the course. Make no mistake about it, your shitstain little comedy writing that you call Koran is not a document of freedom. The Koran is a document of psychosis and your Allah is the Devil. Not enough bad stuff can happen to Muslims. It should be a felony in every country to BE a Muslim. If I had the choice between terminal brain cancer and becoming Islamic, I would choose the cancer. See, if the cancer ate away all of my brain, I would still be smarter than a Muslim goat-f***ing, sun-addled, chanting Death Cultist.
Islam Sucks! Now come and get me...
LOL< I posted the same reply without even reading the thread!
Look at my post, above yours, and realize that you will need to do better than “Islam Sucks”.
There was not much coverage on this. I wonder why no one challenged him. Did he have the authority without the vote of congress?
Obama is becoming very predictable. Any agreements, treaties, deals,speeches internationally work against our best interest.
What's the point of trying when we can follow you around? :-))
Laz, you gotta learn not to hold back so much, it’s bad for you to hold that inside./sarc
Oh, don’t be so hard on the puppies. And pigs are beneficial too! How about having to wipe with pork fat for all eternity? (Don’t want to waste bacon)
Exactly. These mideast klansman are...(well I couldn't have put it any better than Laz!)
Blasphemy laws? What for? I would never paeon TROP, although I’d be inclined to micturate..
You sure have mellowed over the years. We want the old Laz back!
Piss on Islam and Mohammed. Come get me you sons of pig f’n dogs.
The Islam Rant has had a few typo’s corrected and has expanded slightly:
I don’t wanna hear anymore about Islam. Hating your religion is a BLESSING and a testament to God, since Islam is a devil-worship religion of goatherding homosexual woman-haters. You worship a big black rock like a bunch of f***ing retards, and I’m convinced that you didn’t evolve into human beings, but rather the planet Earth shat you out. Take your religion and shove it up your asses.... it will smell better than the typical mosque. Hell is reserved for you scum-laden flea-bearded nasty vile degenerates, and even Satan would find you distasteful. Tell us why shovelling you all into ovens wouldn’t be a good idea? OH! I know! You’d offend the shovel! I’m sick of all you towel-headed suicide-bombing murderous lowlife. What kind of religion is this? What kind of world are you living in? You all think that Camels are high-technology, rip the sex organs off your women, and shake hands with the hand you s**t in because you are too G****d backwards to figure out that whole toilet-paper thing. Your pedophile prophet Mohammad was a sun-baked psychiatric patient with a prediliction for 9-year-old girls, a drug habit, and a lust for killing innocents. Bits of feces on a white rug has more intelligence than you monkey-faced, vile Moon-worshiping homicidal maniacs. I would cut all your throats and sing while doing it, considering any missed throats as a missed opportunity. Hey, payback is a bitch, isn’t it? After all, your Komic Strip Koran ADVOCATES sawing the heads off of innocent people. I’m surprised the Koran isn’t all pictures, after all, only a handful of you freakish killers can read worth a damn. The reason you haven’t figured out indoor plumbing yet is that you all chant verses from that hideous throwback document, the Koran — which is a book of hate — until you have numbed your brain to the point that you drool. You need deportation, off the planet Earth outright. Your Koran makes you believe you can ‘mercy kill’ young women just because they are woman.... but of course, it also makes sense to me that your woman are covered up in blankets most of the time, since most of your women look like Ron Jeremy. Your terrorism that you hold up so proudly is a sign of your sniveling cowardice, and every single insurgent we kill usually has brown s**t stains in their bloody trousers, because you lack the shrivelled balls to stand up to REAL MEN — normally, you cockroaches hide behind women and children because you are too scared to fight like men. You say pigs are unclean, but I would rather drink pig urine than share this globe with you. Your pathetic, small-dicked existence makes us projective vomit. Sharia law is a horrible, evil little dark stain on the body of the legal world, and makes you believe that women are property, that homosexuality is normal, that lying is okay and that breaking contracts is par for the course. Make no mistake about it, your shitstain little comedy writing that you call Koran is not a document of freedom. The Koran is a document of psychosis and your Allah is the Devil. Not enough bad stuff can happen to Muslims. It should be a felony in every country to BE a Muslim. If I had the choice between terminal brain cancer and becoming Islamic, I would choose the cancer. See, if the cancer ate away all of my brain, I would still be smarter than a Muslim goat-f***ing, sun-addled, chanting Death Cultist.
Does that mean I won’t be able to use my Koran toilet paper anymore?
Ah, now THAT is the Laz I remember. Well done.
Youze sed it all
No, actually, I said it all in my extended long-playing version at #39.
WWII:
World Wide Islamic Inquisition
Yes.... I read opus #39 after I posted
You forgot that Islam makes its followers into Zombies- the living dead
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
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A Look at More Than Cartoons
http://www.truthusa.com/MoreThanCartoons.html
INTELLIGENCE and TERRORISM INFORMATION CENTER: "Palestinian, Iranian and International reactions to the Human Rights Council's decision to endorse the findings of the Goldstone Report (Update No. 1)" (October 18, 2009)
CS MONITOR.com: "ISLAMIC COUNTRIES PUSH A GLOBAL 'BLASPHEMY' LAW" (SNIPPET: "Symbolism no longer satisfies the sponsor of these resolutions - the Organization of the Islamic Council. Under the leadership of Pakistan, the 57-nation OIC wants to give the religious antidefamation idea legal teeth by making it part of an international convention, or legally binding treaty. Members of the UN Human Rights Council are passionately debating that idea in Geneva this week. The United States under Barack Obama recently joined the UNHRC, maligned for years as the mouthpiece for countries that are themselves flagrant human rights abusers.") (October 27, 2009)
WHITEHOUSE.gov: Washington, DC - Remarks of President and Barack Obama: "RAMADAN MESSAGE" (SNIPPET: "We are also moving forward in partnering with the OIC and OIC member states to eradicate polio...") (August 21, 2009)
CNS NEWS.com: "BOYCOTT-HIT RACISM CONFERENCE GETS UNDERWAY" by Patrick Goodenough (SNIPPET: "Ahead of the 2009 gathering, a difficult and drawn-out preparatory process has been dominated by a OIC-instigated focus on Israel and attempts by the Islamic bloc to limit criticism of Islam -- or what it calls "defamation of religion."") (April 20, 2009)
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "THE UN's JIHAD AGAINST FREE SPEECH" by Robert Spencer (April 3, 2009)
JIHAD WATCH.org (AFP): "ORGANIZATION OF THE ISLAMIC CONFERENCE (OIC) SLAMS WARRANT FOR SUDAN'S BESHIR" (March 28, 2009)
CNS NEWS.com: "OBAMA EXPECTED TO ENGAGE IN FENCE-MENDING WITH ISLAMIC NATIONS AT MEETING IN TURKEY" by Patrick Goodenough (SNIPPET: "Some critics see in the AoC's attempts to shape media coverage parallels with a "defamation of religion" campaign long promoted by the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), the bloc of Islamic states at the U.N.") (March 27, 2009)JIHAD WATCH.com (AP): Geneva - "UN PASSES RESOLUTION CALLING FOR CRIMINALIZATION OF CRITICISM OF ISLAM" (March 26, 2009)
AMERICAN THINKER.com: "ISLAMIC STATES PUSH TO CRIMINALIZE 'DEFAMATION OF ISLAM'" by Peter C. Glover (SNIPPET: "Though the 57 nations of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), a bloc which also dominates UN's Human Rights Council, have been lobbying for the move since 1999...") (March 25, 2009)JIHAD WATCH.org: "UN HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL: SILENCING CRITICS OF MUSLIM ANTISEMITISM" (March 15, 2009)
JIHAD WATCH.org (WorldNetDaily.com, March 4, 2009): "UN MAY MAKE BAN ON CRITICIZING ISLAM MANDATORY, MAKING IT A CRIMINAL OFFENSE IN THE U.S." (Note: CNN Video included.) (March 5, 2009)
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "SAVED FROM DURBAN II" by Joseph Klein (March 2, 2009)
JIHAD WATCH.org (NEW YORK DAILY NEWS, February 26, 2009): "WHY IS THE U.S. STILL ENTERTAINING DURBAN II?" (SNIPPET: "For one, Obama is making new friends. The administration's decision last week to participate in planning meetings for Durban II was very well received by the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC)") (February 27, 2009)CNS NEWS.com: "OIC WELCOMES U.S. SHIFT ON DURBAN II; DENIES ANTI-SEMITIC INTENT" by Patrick Goodenough (February 24, 2009)
CNS NEWS.com: "OBAMA'S POLICY SHIFT ON DURBAN RACISM CONFERENCE DRAWS CONCERN, CRITICISM" by Patrick Goodenough (SNIPPET: "Arguing that "Islamophobia" is a "contemporary form of racism," the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is using Durban II to further its campaign to have religious "defamation" outlawed -- a drive which critics say is designed to prevent criticism of Islam and practices associated with it.") (February 16, 2009)FRONTPAGE MAGAZINEcom: "A UN VICE FOR ISLAM'S CRITICS" by Nat Hentoff (February 9, 2009)
CNS NEWS.com: "ADDRESS 'ROOT CAUSES' OF TERRORISM, MUSLIM ENVOYS URGE OBAMA" by Patrick Goodenough (February 5, 2009)
JIHAD WATCH.org (WASHINGTON TIMES, February 2, 2009): "They don't want to limit free speech, they just want to kill it" (February 3, 2009)
JIHAD WATCH.org (AFP): "OBAMA COZIES UP TO THE PRINCIPAL ENEMY OF FREE SPEECH IN THE WORLD TODAY" (February 1, 2009)
Link
THE MEMRI BLOG.org ("Source: Shahab News, Iran, January 19, 2009"): "IRANIAN MAJLIS DISCUSSES BILL TO ESTABLISH 'ISLAMIC WORLD ARMY'" (SNIPPET: "It was proposed that this army would be part of the Organization of the Islamic Conference.") (Posted January 22, 2009)JIHAD WATCH.org: "ISESCO (OIC) propagates Dialogue & Judeophobia in two books -- even quoting Nazi forgeries about Benjamin Franklin -- while celebrating the 60th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in the UN-Geneva" (January 16, 2009)
JIHAD WATCH.org: "THE OIC CALLS ON THE MEDIA TO SUPPRESS THE TRUTH" (December 20, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (REUTERS): "OIC CHIEF: "Attempts to equate Islam with terrorism should be stopped. Stereotyping and demonization of Muslims should be combated"" (December 20, 2008)
COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG.org: "OIC's 'DEFAMATION' DECLARATION COULD BE USED BY JIHADI TERROR NETWORKS" by Walid Phares (December 19, 2008)
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "DON'T CALL IT ISLAMOPHOBIA" by Joel J. Sprayregen (December 10, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org: "HATE AND BIAS" (December 5, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (ORGANISATION OF THE ISLAMIC CONFERENCE, December 2, 2008): "Islam a religion of peace -- daily headlines notwithstanding!" (December 4, 2008)
ATLAS SHRUGS - blog: "NUTS! UN'S DEATH KNELL FOR FREE SPEECH" (November 25, 2008)
CNS NEWS.com: "'DEFAMATION' OF ISLAM RESOLUTION TO SET TO PASS, BUT LOSING GROUND" by Patrick Goodenough (November 25, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (WEA, November 15, 2008): "INTERNATIONAL ISLAMIC ORGANIZATION ATTEMPTS TO CRIMINALIZE CRITICISM OF ISLAM AT THE UN" (November 20, 2008)
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "JIHAD AGAINST FREE SPEECH" by Deborah Weiss (November 6, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (TODAYS ZAMAN): "OIC CHIEF: ISLAMOPHOBIA IS A NEW FORM OF RACISM, EXCEPT IT'S EVEN WORSE THAN RACISM" (October 31, 2008)
FOX NEWS.com: "U.N. ANTI-BLASPHEMY RESOLUTION CURTAILS FREE SPEECH, CRITICS SAY" by Jennifer Lawinski (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Religious groups and free-speech advocates are banding together to fight a United Nations resolution they say is being used to spread Sharia law to the Western world and to intimidate anyone who criticizes Islam.") (October 3, 2008)JIHAD WATCH.org (BERNAMA.com, September 25, 2008): New York - "MALAYSIA PROPOSES CONVENTION ON ISLAMOPHOBIA IN U.S." (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Malaysia has proposed that a large-scale international convention sponsored by the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) be held as early as next year to tackle the anti-Islam movement...") (September 28, 2008)
WASHINGTON TIMES.com (UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND RED TEAM - UNCLASSIFIED): "FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN JIHAD ANALYSIS: DEBUNKING THE MYTH OF OFFENSIVE WORDS" (August 21, 2008)
ACLJ.org: "PETITION OPPOSING THE ORGANIZATION OF THE ISLAMIC CONFERENCE"
Link (pdf)
WorldNetDaily.com: "U.N. SCHEME TO MAKE CHRISTIANS CRIMINALS Sharia-following Islamic nations demanding anti-'defamation' law" by Bob Unruh (July 10, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (REUTERS): Amman - "JORDAN CHARGES GEERT WILDERS WITH 'BLASPHEMY AND CONTEMPT OF MUSLIMS'; OIC 'DEEPLY ANNOYED' AT DUTCH DECISION NOT TO PROSECUTE HIM" (July 1, 2008)
HUMAN EVENTS.com: "GEORGE ORWELL MEETS THE OIC" by Robert Spencer (June 25, 2008)
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "FREE SPEECH DIES AT THE UN" by Robert Spencer (June 25, 2008)
COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG.org: "JIHAD AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH AT THE UNITED NATIONS" by Jeffrey Imm (June 19, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (REUTERS): "OIC: LACK OF PUNISHMENT FOR CARTOONS WILL LEAD TO MORE 'ISLAMOPHOBIA'" (June 24, 2008)
TRUTHUSA.com: "A Look at More Than Cartoons"
JIHAD WATCH.org: "OIC: COMBATING 'ISLAMOPHOBIA' TOP PRIORITY, WORKING WITH WESTERN GOVERNMENTS TO RESTRICT FREE SPEECH" (June 23, 2008)
Link
CNS NEWS.com: "ISLAMIC NATIONS EYE UN SECURITY COUNCIL SEATS" by Patrick Goodenough (June 23, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org: "ITALIAN PM AND MUSLIM CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY TARGETS OF JIHADIST DEATH THREATS; ISLAMIC CONFERENCE DECRIES 'ISLAMOPHOBIA'" (June 18, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (KUWAIT NEWS AGENCY): "'INTERNATIONAL ISLAMIC CONFERENCE ON INTER-FAITH DIALOGUE' CALLS FOR ACTION AGAINST 'CULTURE OF HATRED AMONG NATIONS'" (June 8, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (TODAY'S ZAMAN): "OIC TO DECLARE A 'MEMORIAL DAY' FOR MASSACRES AGAINST MUSLIMS" (May 17, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (TODAYS ZAMAN.com): "ISLAMIC NATIONALS LAUNCH 'ISLAMOPHOBIA OBSERVATORY'" (May10, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (ISLAMIC REPUBLIC NEWS AGENCY): "OIC CONDEMNS FITNA 'IN THE STRONGEST TERMS'" (March 29, 2008)
WTOP NEWS.com (AP): Geneva - "UN OKs ISLAMIC TEXT AGAINST DEFAMATION" (March 27, 2008, 11:40 pm)
HOT AIR.com - blog: "NEW JIHAD WATCH: DEFAME ISLAM, GET SUED" (March 24, 2008)
Video - Link
ASSIST NEWS SERVICE: "OIC: ELIMINATING 'DEFAMATION' OF ISLAM - an examination of the Organisation of Islamic Conference's Observatory Report on Islamophobia" by Elizabeth Kendal (March 24, 2008)
CNS NEWS.com: "OIC DENOUNCES TERROR, BUT FIGHTING 'OCCUPATION' STILL EXEMPTED" by Patrick Goodenough (March 18, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org (AFP): Dakar - "INDONESIAN PRESIDENT: "ISLAM HAS BEEN UNJUSTLY ASSOCIATED WITH VIOLENCE'" (March 15, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org: "FITZGERALD: THE OIC's REBRANDING GAME" (March 15, 2008)
JIHAD WATCH.org: "OIC: 'COMBATING ISLAMOPHOBIA IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES FACED BY THE MUSLIM WORLD'" (SNIPPET: "Well, Jihad Watch can offer a handy five-point plan for countering 'Islamophobia'...") (March 12, 2008)
CNS NEWS.com: "STATE DEPT INTRODUCES NEW ENVOY TO MUSLIM NATIONS" by Susan Jones (March 10, 2008)
COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG.org: "JIHAD, ISLAMISM, AND U.S. ENVOY TO OIC" by Jeffrey Imm (February 29, 2008)
WHITEHOUSE.gov - news release: Oval Office - "PRESIDENT BUSH MEETS WITH SPECIAL ENVOY TO THE ORGANIZATION OF THE ISLAMIC CONFERENCE" (February 27, 2008, 2:01 pm EST)
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