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Michelle Obama contradicts Obama nativity story
World Net Daily ^ | 10/28/2009 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 10/28/2009 6:27:26 AM PDT by Mozilla

Michelle Obama stated at a public event that her husband's mother, Ann Dunham, was "very young and very single" when she gave birth to the future U.S. president.

Her comments undermine the official story as told by Barack Obama – that Dunham was married to his father, Barack Obama Sr., at the time of birth.

The remarks were made by Michelle Obama during a July 2008 round table at the University of Missouri. Obama was responding to criticism of her husband's presidential campaign speeches about fatherhood and faith-based initiatives.

Michelle Obama explained her husband understands the struggles of low-income families.

"He understands them because he was raised by strong women. He is the product of two great women in his life. His mother and his grandmother," she said.

"Barack saw his mother, who was very young and very single when she had him, and he saw her work hard to complete her education and try to raise he and his sister," Michelle Obama said.

Her remarks about Dunham being "very single" when she gave birth to Barack Obama were also quoted last year on a blog posted at MSNBC.com. The remarks, however, contradicted previous claims President Obama made about the circumstances of his birth.

Obama himself, in his autobiography "Dreams from My Father," wrote of his parents' wedding:

In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I've never quite had the courage to explore. There's no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving away of the bride. No families were in attendance; it's not even clear that people back in Kansas were fully informed. Just a small civil ceremony, a justice of the peace. The whole thing seems so fragile in retrospect, so haphazard."

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; michelleobama; obama

1 posted on 10/28/2009 6:27:26 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Typical white people.


2 posted on 10/28/2009 6:30:01 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Mozilla

I’m starting to wonder if Obama was born of a jackal instead.


3 posted on 10/28/2009 6:33:24 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Bullsh*t)
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To: Mozilla

In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I’ve never quite had the courage to explore. There’s no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving away of the bride. No families were in attendance; it’s not even clear that people back in Kansas were fully informed. Just a small civil ceremony, a justice of the peace. The whole thing seems so fragile in retrospect, so haphazard.”

Almost as though it was a memory made in a small boy’s
mind.


4 posted on 10/28/2009 6:33:43 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Boardwalk

“Typical white people.”

LOL, that was really funny


5 posted on 10/28/2009 6:34:48 AM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: Mozilla

From what I’ve seen of Duram on the net...she was as far from Tallahassee as you can get when she dropped Obammy.


6 posted on 10/28/2009 6:34:59 AM PDT by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

He is hiding the truth in order to embellish his story and to not expose something in his back ground. More than likely he was not born in Hawaii and not a citizen of this country. But I think it is more than that. Something else is out there.


7 posted on 10/28/2009 6:38:58 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Dallas59

So there’s no Marriage Certificate either?


8 posted on 10/28/2009 6:39:36 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: tet68
accounts say the happy couple flew to Maui for a weekend and got hitched...

lack of records mean it could have been some native “ceremony” with a kuhana blowing a conch shell on a beach

O sr wasn't free to marry (assuming he even wanted to) because he already had an african wife and family

9 posted on 10/28/2009 6:44:43 AM PDT by silverleaf (Ours is the only country on earth with a ventriloquist dummy for President)
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To: Mozilla
I wouldn't read too much into this. From the context, it is clear that Michelle 0bama was talking about the circumstances in which Ann Dunham raised 0bama - she was very young and (for the most part) very single when 0bama was growing up.
10 posted on 10/28/2009 6:46:02 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Mozilla
"...to raise he and his sister," Michelle Obama said."

I am not the grammar police, but an honor graduate of Princeton and Harvard should do better with her native language.

11 posted on 10/28/2009 6:46:59 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Mozilla
..that her husband's mother, Ann Dunham, was "very young and very single" when she gave birth to the future U.S. president.

So Hussein's mother was a "lady of easy virtue",eh? Color me *stunned* (end sarcasm).And that's more proof that his old man was a worthless pig as well.This,too,leaves me unsurprised.

Another example of how the acorn seldom falls far from the tree.

12 posted on 10/28/2009 6:47:18 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Color me *stunned* There you go bringing "color" into it! RACIST!!!
13 posted on 10/28/2009 6:51:32 AM PDT by Vasilli22
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To: OldEagle
I am not the grammar police, but an honor graduate of Princeton and Harvard should do better with her native language.

Two things you must remember...1)English is her *slave* language.If she had her druthers she'd be speaking Swahili and wearing a veil in some fly-infested African village today.And 2)It was only February of last year that she first became proud of this country and,one can reasonably assume,its language.

Geeze...give the gal a break!!

14 posted on 10/28/2009 6:54:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Mozilla
Michelle+Nativity
15 posted on 10/28/2009 6:56:57 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: reagan_fanatic
“I’m starting to wonder if Obama was born of a jackal instead.”

It's still early and I need more coffee - as I was scanning your post I saw: Obama Jackass.

It made perfect sense...as does your original statement.

Have a great day.

16 posted on 10/28/2009 6:58:14 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: Mozilla
Yeah he was raised by a strong Communist woman..didn't it say he was actually raised by his communist grandparents though..

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/10/obamas-two-mothers.html

the picture on the right was a police picture of Obama’s mama..

17 posted on 10/28/2009 6:59:41 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Mozilla

When you base everything on lies, it is difficult to keep the story straight. The more the story is told, the more holes show through.


18 posted on 10/28/2009 6:59:41 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ASA Vet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1611173/posts?page=48#48
19 posted on 10/28/2009 7:00:01 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Vasilli22
Color me *stunned* There you go bringing "color" into it! RACIST!!!

How is that racism? His hooker mother was *white*,after all. ;-)

20 posted on 10/28/2009 7:00:01 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Mozilla

Ol’ Annie Dunham... she was a hoppin’ gal, wasn’t she?


21 posted on 10/28/2009 7:00:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The liberation of the Old Dominion is nigh...)
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To: ScottinVA
Ol’ Annie Dunham... she was a hoppin’ gal, wasn’t she?

I think that the problem was that she was known to *stop* hoppin' from time to time.

22 posted on 10/28/2009 7:02:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
While I agree that it was probably just a misstatement, Obama’s mother was rarely single while she was raising him.

For the first 2 years, I believe she was married to his father. Then, when he was 5, she remarried and Barry lived in Indonesia until he was 9 with mom and his step father, Lolo Soetoro (whose last name he took). Later, I believe he chose to return to the U.S. and live with his grandparents. So, the myth that Obama was “raised” by a single mother is a huge exaggeration. When they add, “on welfare”, it is even more dishonest. If his mother was ever on welfare, it is likely it was while she was working on an advanced college degree, making her basically a privileged welfare chiseler.

But, of course, the Obamas never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

23 posted on 10/28/2009 7:04:16 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Mozilla; Salamander; Markos33; Slings and Arrows
"and he saw her work hard to complete her education and try to raise he and his sister," Michelle Obama said. "

This gave he the chance to go to college and learn him's grammar, so that him could marry she.
24 posted on 10/28/2009 7:04:47 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

So we should ignore that little phrase.....

when she gave birth???????????


25 posted on 10/28/2009 7:08:50 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Mozilla
Michelle Obama stated at a public event that her husband's mother, Ann Dunham, was "very young and very single" when she gave birth to the future U.S. president.

That bastard.

26 posted on 10/28/2009 7:08:53 AM PDT by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: ScottinVA

No wonder Obammy doesn’t like his “white” blood. Mama Bammy dropped baby Bammy off on Grandma and Grandpa while she went looking for more men of color.


27 posted on 10/28/2009 7:11:19 AM PDT by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: Mozilla
It is very clear that Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama were married. Although there was no record of a ceremony taking place, a marriage license was issued, and a divorce was filed for and granted. Why would one go through the expense of filing for a divorce if no marriage existed? Being dishonest seems to run in the family. I think we can chalk this one up to another one of the Obama’s tall tales, along with having been in 57 states, and claiming his birth was a result of the Bloody Sunday March, that took place several years after his birth. Also as a side note, this article also states that the Obama’s were not living at the address listed in the Newspaper birth announcements, and that the home at that address was owned by a third unrelated party at the time. It seems that WND has forgotten that they claimed, in a prior article, that Obama’s Grandparents were living there in 1961.
28 posted on 10/28/2009 7:15:00 AM PDT by chatter4
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To: Mozilla

Well, it seems clear that there is something he does not want public that is on his birth certificate. Maybe it was that his parents were not married, altho that seems like a non issue, especially in this day and age, and NO ONE who supports his politics would care. So, that seems like a stupid reason to spend millions to keep it hidden. On the face of it, being that stupid would seem to preclude someone from the Presidency.


29 posted on 10/28/2009 7:16:58 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea

His birth certificate probably lists him as white. If only it were true, we wouldn’t be stuck with his affirmative action ass now.


30 posted on 10/28/2009 7:19:00 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Mozilla

As Monk would say, here’s what happened:

“8And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. 11Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ[a] the Lord. 12This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”
13Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,
14”Glory to God in the highest,
and on earth peace to men on whom his favor rests.”


31 posted on 10/28/2009 7:19:40 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: massgopguy
Isn't it wild? No marriage certificate, no birth certificate, no passport to see altho he traveled to foreign lands, no college records, and still we have the chattering masses who think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
32 posted on 10/28/2009 7:24:02 AM PDT by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: Boardwalk

LOL that would be interesting!


33 posted on 10/28/2009 7:30:18 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: OldEagle
If you read her thesis, you know that grammar is not Michelle’s strong point. However, she appears to have a lot of self respect. ;-)
34 posted on 10/28/2009 7:38:22 AM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: OldEagle

I have problems with the ‘very single’. You are either single or you are not.


35 posted on 10/28/2009 7:40:50 AM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: sportutegrl

More like very slutty.


36 posted on 10/28/2009 7:45:06 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Carley; Above My Pay Grade; Conscience of a Conservative
The supposed Conscience of a Conservative says we should not to read things into what Michelle said, then proceeds to do exactly that while attempting to change the historical record, leaving off MeeShell's "when she gave birth" and quickly swapping in that "it was clear"--when it is in fact a falsehood--that MeeShell was talking about the time Barry "was being raised".

Me smells a troll or at least someone pushy who can't think straight.

HF

37 posted on 10/28/2009 7:46:46 AM PDT by holden
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To: Mozilla
The whole thing seems so fragile in retrospect, so haphazard."

The part of the book quote left out... "So clearly completely fabricated, I can't believe you stupid Americans bought it !"

38 posted on 10/28/2009 7:47:59 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Carley
I'm not saying we should ignore it, only that we should consider it in its context (also, the phrase was not "when she gave birth," but rather "when she had him"): "Barack saw his mother, who was very young and very single when she had him, and he saw her work hard to complete her education and try to raise he and his sister."

The sentence (to me) looks like a clear reference to 0bama's upbringing, with the reference to his birth being an afterthought. All I'm saying is that it seems silly to look to a single statement, made by someone who would have no first-hand knowledge of when/where/how 0bama was born, to prove the circumstances of his birth.

39 posted on 10/28/2009 7:54:06 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: SampleMan

‘That bastard. ‘

It’s the self-made bastards like Obama that give the epithet bad connotations.


40 posted on 10/28/2009 7:55:07 AM PDT by Leg Olam (Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: chatter4
It is very clear that Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama were married. Although there was no record of a ceremony taking place, a marriage license was issued, and a divorce was filed for and granted.

There is no marriage license. There is a divorce decree, not signed by the Mr. It could have been granted, according to the laws of the state, without a marriage license on file. There isn't any other evidence. In my mind, that would not qualify for the description, "very clear".

41 posted on 10/28/2009 7:56:02 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: holden

Michelle made reference to when 0bama “saw” his mother work hard/etc. The context of the statement is Michelle talking about 0bama’s upbringing, not simply his birth (at a political rally, why would the audience care about 0bama’s birth?).

You call me a troll because I said that we should not read too much into a single phrase about 0bama’s birth, given in a political speech by someone who has no first-hand knowledge of the circumstances of his birth?? With all due respect, go to hell.

Oh, and if you have a problem with my user name, take it up with Goldwater, OK?


42 posted on 10/28/2009 7:58:22 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Trouble is that his mother didn’t raise him. She dumped him off at her mother’s for raising.


43 posted on 10/28/2009 8:02:18 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Mozilla
So, I have read that about the time she became pregnant, Miss Ann was visiting Cuba with a group of communist teens from the USofA and was known as an 'easy lay' by others attending. Don't know who else was there, possibly Malcom X, possibly Frank Marshall Davis, and maybe even some Castro relative.
In order of appearance: Fidel, Raul, 8 yr old Stanley Ann, Ann & Barry, Teenage Barry.

Malcom X young
Can't locate a Frank Marshall Davis photo when he was young.

Compare:
44 posted on 10/28/2009 9:54:37 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

This is the kind of pure unadulterated BS that gives powerful ammunition to the liberals and the press to beat up Free Republic. Can’t you peddle your opinions somewhere else so as not to muddy the name of this forum with such blatant BS. Tell me, how in the world does this help the cause?


45 posted on 10/28/2009 9:59:42 AM PDT by DryFly
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To: Gay State Conservative

I was being facetious. I was making fun of how the race-baiters will seize on an innocuous word in a statement.


46 posted on 10/28/2009 10:34:12 AM PDT by Vasilli22
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To: Vasilli22

THATS RACIST.


47 posted on 10/28/2009 10:41:50 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: reagan_fanatic

He wasn’t born.

He hatched.

Like all lizards.


48 posted on 10/28/2009 10:43:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Red Boots

From: Okubo, Janice S.
To: [email redacted]
Cc: Onaka, Alvin T.
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: Request for information
Aloha..,
Index data referred to in HRS 338-18 from vital records in the State of Hawaii is available for inspection at the Department of Health’s Office of Health Status Monitoring at 1250 Punchbowl Street in Honolulu . The Director in accordance with 338-18 (d) has not authorized any other data to be made available to the public.
In response to your request the following index data is being provided:
BIRTH INDEX
OFFICE OF HEALTH STATUS MONITORING
CHILD
OBAMA II, BARACK HUSSEIN
GENDER
M
MARRIAGE INDEX
SORTED BY BRIDE
OFFICE OF HEALTH STATUS MONITORING

GROOM
OBAMA, BARACK HUSSEIN
BRIDE
DUNHAN, STANLEY ANN
Janice Okubo
Communications Office
Hawaii State Department of Health…


49 posted on 10/28/2009 8:20:44 PM PDT by chatter4
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To: DryFly

Say what you will. There’s nothing that can be DISproved so speculation is all we have.

Or what about Atlas Shrugged’s report that states in part:
Drunk on radical ideology, Stanley “Ann” Dunham became pregnant in the summer of 1960 in Seattle WA with the baby of a prominent black liberal activist. But in 1960, unmarried parents and children suffered penalties ranging from confinement in isolated maternity homes to parental rejection and community disapproval. To be “illegitimate” was to be shamed and shunned and labeled as immoral. The belief that children born out of wedlock posed significant social and public health problems was widespread. In the case of mixed race children, perceptions of illegitimacy were compounded by legal segregation in education, housing, employment, and voting. Recall that it wasn’t until 1965 that The National Voting Rights Act was passed to outlaw discriminatory voting practices that had been responsible for the widespread disenfranchisement of African Americans. Laws against interracial marriage and interracial sex existed in several US states and US territories until a Supreme Court decision in 1967.

With racial unrest at its peak, the Dunham’s wanted to move as far away as possible from their predominantly white conservative community to allow Ann to have her illegitimate child in relative obscurity. So the Dunham’s abruptly moved to the new state of Hawaii (Aug of 1959) where whites were the minority and a mixed race child would be more accepted.

In the early 1960’s there were noticeable very few African Americans on the streets of Honolulu, and Obama Sr. was the only Black man from Africa on the island. Ann Dunham, in an effort to legitimize her mixed race baby, would have sought out one of the only black men on the island to convince him to use his name. And so Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was likely pressed into service as father and husband in name only. Barack Sr. had no moral objections because to gain recognition in the Kenyan community, one needed to be polygamous. Polygamy enhanced your status, and symbolized that you were a wealthy man. Obama Sr’s name on the certificate of birth would legitimize the birth, and conceal the identity of the true father…a win-win for all parties.

Ann Dunham’s mortified family was determined to give their wayward daughter a second chance to find a normal life by raising Barack Hussein Obama Jr. for her, and allowing her to return to her collegiate life. Immediately upon her child’s birth supposedly in August of 1961, Ann left her supposed new husband and only days old Barack Hussein Obama Jr. behind in Hawaii to be raised by his grandmother. Ann flew back to Washington State to help stir the anti-establishment cauldron of socialists, communists, civil rights and self defense organizations including the Nation of Islam, and the Black Panther Party, which were boiling over in Seattle…and possibly visit the baby’s real father. She started classes at the U of Washington in Aug 1961, the same month she supposedly had Barack Hussein Obama Jr. in Honolulu. This explains why none of Barrack Hussein Obama Sr.’s friends from Hawaii remember Ann or Barrack Obama Jr. When Obama Sr. left Hawaii in 1962, he never mentioned Ann Dunham or Barack Hussein Obama Jr. to even his closest friends. Obama Jr. has never produced records of his supposed parent’s marriage or divorce most likely because they don’t exist.

Read the rest of it here: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html

We could be looking for an August Birth Certificate when in reality he was born in June or July. And recall that in one of his books he mentioned finding his birth certificate. He never stated what was ON it. Also, remember that he’s used 32 different Social Security numbers (probably appropriated by his white grandmother) and the one he uses now belonged to a Connecticut man who’s been dead for years.


50 posted on 10/31/2009 12:21:05 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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