Who Hates Glenn Beck?

The American Conservative ^ | 10/23/09 | Jack Hunter

[nickcarraway]

His talk-radio brethren have less of a problem with his histrionics than with his evolving libertarianism

Warning that popular talk radio and Fox News host Glenn Beck was “Harmful to the Conservative Movement,” Peter Wehner wrote on Commentary’s “Contentions” blog in September: “he seems to be more of a populist and libertarian than a conservative, more of a Perotista than a Reaganite. His interest in conspiracy theories is disquieting, as is his admiration for Ron Paul and his charges of American ‘imperialism.’ (He is now talking about pulling troops out of Afghanistan, South Korea, Germany, and elsewhere.)”

Wehner is not alone in his criticism. When Beck told CBS News’ Katie Couric, “John McCain would have been worse for the country than Barack Obama,” fellow radio talker and New York Times bestselling author Mark Levin fired back: “to say that he would be worse than a president who’s a Marxist, who’s running around the world apologizing for our nation, who’s slashing our defense budget … to say he would be worse is mindless … incoherent, as a matter of fact.”

Beck has been criticized from both Left and Right for his melodramatic, sometimes conspiracy-minded, intermittently bizarre style. But his conservative critics seem most offended not by Beck’s manner but by his deviationism. He won’t stick to the ideological script.

Conservative radio and TV punditry has a strict set of ground rules. Whatever Democrats are up to is bad; Republicans aren’t perfect, but they are worth cheering for and at least deserve the benefit of the doubt. Rush Limbaugh’s occasional guest host Michael Medved reflected talk-radio orthodoxy perfectly when he said, “For those Americans who want to fight back against the menacing expansion of government and the insanely irresponsible spending of the Obama administration, there is only one way to succeed: electing more Republicans to high office.” But as Marc Ambinder at The Atlantic notes, Beck is an exception: “Beck claims to be non-partisan. Conservative, yes, but disdainful of the GOP, with no vested interest in seeing Republicans return to power.” During the George W. Bush years, Beck’s politics were less differentiated from those of other radio talkers. He deferred to the Bush administration, promoted militarism as patriotism, and called the day’s news along partisan lines. When Ron Paul received national attention for questioning America’s interventionist foreign policy during a 2007 GOP presidential primary debate, Beck called Paul “crazy” and asked, “how did this guy get on stage?” At the time there were no complaints about Beck from the likes of Wehner and Levin — because Beck sounded much like them.

Sometimes he still does, mashing recycled neoconservative jargon with wild-eyed panic about the growth of government power under Obama. But however politically incoherent or ideologically imperfect his rants may be, Beck, unlike other conservative media celebrities, seems to have learned something from the past eight years. He said in September:

I am becoming more and more libertarian every day, I guess the scales are falling off of my eyes, as I’m doing more and more research into history and learning real history. Back at the turn of the century in 1900, with Teddy Roosevelt — a Republican — we started this, ‘we’re going to tell the rest of the world,’ ‘we’re going to spread democracy,’ and we really became, down in Latin America, we really became thuggish and brutish. It only got worse with the next progressive that came into office — Teddy Roosevelt, Republican progressive — the next one was a Democratic progressive, Woodrow Wilson, and we did … we empire built. The Democrats felt we needed to empire build with one giant global government … The Republicans took it as, we’re going to lead the world and we’ll be the leader of it … I don’t think we should be either of those. I think we need to mind our own business and protect our own people. When somebody hits us, hit back hard, then come home.

When he made headlines by saying that McCain would have been worse than Obama, Beck explained to Couric, “McCain is this weird progressive like Theodore Roosevelt was.” Beck has devoted much airtime to warning about the dangers of “transnationalism” and “progressivism.” His notion of the latter seems to be inspired by Ronald J. Pestritto’s American Progressivism: A Reader, a book Beck recommends on his website. His take on progressivism shows a characteristic mixture of conspiracy theory, ignorance, and, when you least expect it, the truth. On a show in June, he warned: “Now, the progressive movement, this is so insidious … I mean, for instance, and I don’t want to get into this, but Woodrow Wilson, nobody knows anything about. One evil son of a bitch. And nobody knows it. Nobody really knows what the progressive movement is because they’ve controlled history.” He said in May: “I have to tell you, the answer is to get away from the two-party system because they are both progressives.”

Beck gives a less sensational account of progressivism in his recent bestseller Glenn Beck’s Common Sense: The Case Against an Out-of-Control Government, in which he explains: “The Progressives on the right believed in Statism and American expansion through military strength, while the Progressives on the left believed in Statism and expansion through transnationalist entities such as the League of Nations and then the United Nations.” On “transnationalism” Beck adds, “Under President Bush, politics and global corporations dictated much of our economic and border policy. Nation building and internationalism also played a huge role in our move away from founding principles.”

Beck is hardly a noninterventionist, and he still makes hawkish statements similar to those others on the Right side of the dial. But in revisiting the foreign policies of Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt and questioning the “expansion” of “progressivism … through military strength,” Beck sets himself apart from the conservative retreads still promoting Bush’s overseas agenda. Beck has embarked on an ideological journey that is unfolding before a large national audience (he’s third in the talk-radio ratings, behind Limbaugh and Hannity), and the host himself seems unsure where his wanderings will take him.

But they have already led him, and his listenership, away from the familiar shores of movement conservatism. Beck gets credit for this from some unexpected sources. The Atlantic’s Andrew Sullivan, for example, says, “I do think that Beck deserves some kudos for putting defense on the table as an issue for small government conservatives.” For Peter Wehner, on the other hand, Beck’s, “populist,” “libertarian,” and anti-imperial deviations remain troublesome: “My hunch is that he is a comet blazing across the media sky right now — and will soon flame out. Whether he does or not, he isn’t the face or disposition that should represent modern-day conservatism.”

Wehner may be right — Beck’s zany disposition should not be the public face of today’s conservatism. But clearly neoconservatives and Bush administration alumni like Wehner should not be the face of conservatism, either. As Daniel Larison has noted, “The faction most responsible for the GOP’s political failure is national security conservatives. Yet within the party, they remain unscathed, their assumptions about the use of American power largely unquestioned, and their gross errors in judgment forgotten or readily forgiven.” Now is the time for conservatives to ask questions, reexamine their assumptions, and own up to some gross errors. Beck has been the only A-list conservative pundit willing to capitalize on the sentiments of Republicans disgruntled with their own party, and the only one to address the taboo subject of Bush-era foreign policy.

Plenty of others continue to bash Obama-only Beck has been willing to make conservative discontent retroactive. Other hosts continue to promise future Republican victories in the face of Obama’s plummeting popularity, but Beck continues to ask, “what’s the point?” And while it might be true that Beck doesn’t always ask the right questions, he deserves some credit for being the only guy asking any questions while the rest of the right-wing infotainment industry refuses to acknowledge any mistakes at all. Far from being the worst of conservative pundits, Beck, despite his outrageous antics, may be the only one of them who is mentally alive.

[P.O.E.]

Since when did “Perotista” equate to Libertarianism?

[fish hawk]

Since when is truth harmful to the Conservative movement?

[misterrob]

Beck is against Big Government. He also rails against corruption in public officials.

[manc]

the elitist right and the loon left are both out for Beck, even going as low as mentioning his religion(which is no ones business).

All guns blazing against him, just like they did to Sarah, Joe the plumber, Bachmann, Miss CA, Rush

[Palladin]

I LOVE Glenn Beck.

He is a breath of fresh air amongst our stale, jaded media personalities, including those on the right.

This country was founded by libertarians. Don’t knock it!

[ozzymandus]

Libs and RINOs hate Beck, and O’Reilly is jealous. That’s the main reason I like him.

[Gamecock]

I think Beck is right, but I find him way too whiny.

[misterrob]

When it exposes those who love their own flavor of big government.

[YankeeReb]

Interesting take. One thing about Beck, he’s not a knee-jerk Republican. He makes you examine your positions and I think he’s in part responsible for conservatives at least taking a look at the GOP plantation.

[EricT.]

I don’t remember Micheal Medved ever guest-hosting for Rush.

[BornToBeAmerican]

My wife and I do too. He is a breath od fresh air and we have learned so much from him and are forever grateful

[zlala]

Who Hates Glenn Beck?

The moron liberal in my office. He doesn't know a thing about Beck except with obermann says on his program, yet he comes into the break room almost everyday spiting venom about beck and republicans and conservatives. I'm getting to where I dread even seeing this guy. And heaven forbid you should have any money, that'll really get him foaming....

[EricT.]

Since when is truth harmful to the Conservative movement?

Ever since Conservatives started noticing that the Republican Party was using them the way Democrats use black people.

[sten]

that pesky truth really hurts

but only hurts liberals, progressives, and RINOs

i have NO problem with this.

GO GLENN!

[BykrBayb]

But his conservative critics seem most offended not by Beck’s manner but by his deviationism. He won’t stick to the ideological script.

Glenn's critics aren't actually conservative. Some of them are Republicans though. They're the ones who are bothered by Glenn not toeing the party line. I fully expect one of them to show up on this thread, complaining about FReepers "worshiping" Beck.

[sodpoodle]

Glen Beck is not running for elective office.

Beck’s critics are like spinsters - searching for perfection and ending up mighty disappointed...and alone.

[native texan]

I LOVE GLENN BECK!!!

[EricT.]

I fully expect one of them to show up on this thread, complaining about FReepers "worshiping" Beck.

Or call long-time FReepers "Democrat Operatives" for not swallowing the GOP talking points whole... just like I experienced yesterday.

[ETL]

"Who Hates Glenn Beck?"

The commie left and all their assorted "useful idiots".

[CaliforniaCon]

I agree with you. I LOVE Glenn Beck as well. He has opened my eyes a LOT and I love the way he uses those chalkboards et al. Very very informative and the left hates him. That’s a good enough endorsement for me!

[SoCalPol]

The clown who wrote this article is an anti war, for legalizing marajuana PaulBot. He is associated with 9/11 Truthers.

Jack Hunter also wrote an article bashing Conservative Mark Levin and his book “Liberty and Tyranny”

[ETL]

"Beck, despite his outrageous antics, may be the only one of them who is mentally alive."

He's also the only one who exposes Obama's communist associations in detail.

[SoCalPol]

Beck was one of many and not the first person to expose Obama’s bunch.
I have printed out copies of inforamtion on ACORN and others long before Beck had his TV program.

[SoCalPol]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2372245/posts?page=23

Little Jackie Hunter with an attack on you to brag up Beck

[ETL]

I should have said that he’s the only one on such a large stage that goes into Obama’s communist associations in *sufficient* detail. Hannity couldn’t even properly describe the Weather Underground as being communist. He only referred to them as “domestic terrorists”. And he had only one rare special Friday night edition of Hannity’s America in which he had experts on who exposed Reverend Wright’s “Black Liberation Theology” as communist. After that, he rarely mentioned it again.

[SoCalPol]

Actually long before the election Hannity had on Wright for an interview and exposed what he really is.
Greta also exposed wright early on.

[thecabal]

I fully expect one of them to show up on this thread, complaining about FReepers "worshiping" Beck.

Boy, you said a mouthful. I'm sick of those guys.

[ETL]

Actually long before the election Hannity had on Wright for an interview and exposed what he really is.

Are you kidding? Wright made an *ss out of Hannity on that March 2007 show. Hannity had no idea what "Liberation Theology" was (revolutionary communism). I've posted the transcript of the interview many times here. It's also on my FR home page.

Greta also exposed Wright early on.

Greta expose Wright's "Black Liberation Theology" as revolutionary communist?? Surely you're joking?

They may have pointed out the racist nature of it, but neither came close to telling their audiences what it really was.

[SoCalPol]

Wishing doesn’t make it so.

[ETL]

Fact: Hannity had no clue in that March 2007 interview with Wright that “Liberation Theology” was revolutionary communist in nature. Nor did he once tie Wright to Ayers through “Black Liberation”. Both Wright and Ayers are proponents of communist “Black Liberation”. He also rarely, if ever, informed his huge audiences that the Weather Underground were revolutionary communists, despite the fact that they openly admitted it themselves. Beck is one of the rare few that brings critical facts like these to the public’s attention. If you think Hannity did a satisfactory job of explaining all this to his viewers you have a poor understanding of the subject yourself.

[ETL]

The first excerpt below is from the special Friday night edition of Hannity's America that I mentioned earlier. This was some 14 months after the 2007 interview with Wright. It was one of the rare few times he ever did a show in which Black Liberation Theology was linked to communism and revolution. Following this program he barely ever mentioned it. And when he did it was only in regards to the political aspect of it, not its promotion of communist revolution.

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."--B.H. Obama

YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
(note the red communist star on his shirt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3uvK9gTIY
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From the Harlem Film Festival, a pro-communist revolution propaganda film on the story of Joanne Chesimard, aka "Assata Shakur" [my words].

ASSATA (aka Joanne Chesimard)

Perhaps the most wanted woman in the history of the United States.

Assata Shakur/Joanne Chesimard, was questionably arrested and sentenced for killing a cop in the infamous 1973 New Jersey Turnpike shootup of a car carrying Shakur, and two other Black Panthers, one of whom was also killed. Assata received three bullets in the attack. Sentenced to Life, she escaped in 1979 from maximum security prison in NJ to eventually emerge in Cuba under Fidel Castro’s protection as a political exile. Assata’s [Joanne Chesimard] writings and presence in Cuba have brought her a huge following as an icon, a heroine – the Che Guevera of Black Liberation – a freedom fighter to thousands of young peoples throughout the world. The State of New Jersey still holds a million dollar bounty on her head–wanted dead or alive!

Directed by Fred Baker

http://harlemfilmfestival.com/films/2009/assata-aka-joanne-chesimard/
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Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright and Dr. William Ayers
are greeted by Rebekah Levin with the Committee
for a Just Peace in Israel and Palestine.
(Chuck Berman/Chicago Tribune / May 17, 2009)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-ayers_wrightmay18,0,6689521.story

[SoCalPol]

I remember Ayers when he was doing his Marxist crap in the 1960s. I have books pub. decades ago with Ayers, SDS, etc.
and this history.

I and millions of others who lived in the 1960s know this as old news. Beck in jest the past few yrs. is just getting a clue.

I have old congressional records from hearing decades ago about this bunch. Nice you are just finding out.

[ETL]

You and I may know who and what these people are, but the overwhelming majority of the American people do not. It is the job of people like Hannity to adequately inform them. He didn’t. And neither did most of the other prominent talk show hosts. They all left out crucial information concerning the communist aspect of it.

[katlynne11]

I hate Glenn Beck

when he goes off the air. I hate for Glenn Beck's program to end because he is so informative and presents his data which is irrefutable. ANd finally, I would hate Glenn Beck if he ever stopped doing what he is doing and especially ticking off liberals. Otherwise I love the guy.

[SoCalPol]

There are any number of people on Radio and TV who have exposed them.

Beck turns many people off with his Sh** that all democrats and republicans are alike.

Tell that to 3 of my congressmen here, Marine Col. conservative Republican Duncan D. Hunter who served several tours in Iraq and Afghn, Bilbray who fights the border issues, Darrell Issa who has been exposing ACORN in congress for months and you can down load his 80 p. report he is also exposing liberals ie Dodd with Countrywide dirty money.
Self admitted Conservative Reagan Republican Doug Hoffman running in the NY 23rd. and who will caucus with the Republicans.
The conservative Republican who is doing the heavy lifting
and has taken the left wing flack, Sarah Palin, and the list can go on and on with great Conservative Republicans.

Beck has been sucked into the PaulBot Cult and needs to be deprogramed.

[ETL]

Beck turns many people off with his Sh** that all democrats and republicans are alike.

I think he says things like that just to get both sides to watch. Meanwhile, he systematically destroys today's communist controlled democrat party. The other strange things he does is for pure entertainment value - to get easily bored people to stay tuned. I think it's working.

[SoCalPol]

He says that because he means it.
I know too many good Conservative Republicans who have fought in the trenches who will not be insluted by that type of comment

I have countered many Code Pinko Rallies and have gone face to face with them.
Have countered pro Hamas rallies and others.

I don’t respect those who bash Conservative Republicans and support politicians such as Ron Paul who are anti war, don’t believe the IslamOfascists are a threat.
Who voted Not to condemn Ahmadinejad.

[EricT.]

I’ve never seen or heard Beck bash Conservative Republicans, just pretenders and RINOs.

His problem (and mine) is with the GOP party bosses who treat Conservatives the same way Democrats treat inner-city minorities. Bashing the Republican Party is not the same as bashing Conservative Republicans.

Oh yeah, thank Newt, the NRCC, and RNC for Dede Scuzzaflavaflav for me, will ya?

[EricT.]

You can also send them my thanks for Arlen Specter, Jim Jeffords, Lindsey Grahamnesty, Olympia Snowe, and Juan McCain.

[Always Right]

There are any number of people on Radio and TV who have exposed them.

Not to the audience that Beck hits.

Beck turns many people off with his Sh** that all democrats and republicans are alike.

When the GOP gets into power, they did act just like Democrats. Beck identifies a few Republicans he trusts, but they are few. And I think Beck was right about McCain. McCain would have destroyed the Republican brand even more by working with the Democrats and probably accomplishing more of their socialist agenda than Obama is. McCain is an idiot on so many things which in some ways is more dangerous.

[gunnyg]

Gunny G: Lil TidBitsThe Enemy Within

Perhaps hes made his judgments from George Clooneys movie Good Night and Good Luck that continued the smear campaign against Senator Joseph McCarthy while lionizing leftist reporter Edward R. Murrow. Beck wasnt born in 1935, so perhaps he is unaware in that year the leftist National Education Association promoted a summer school held in Moscow, Russia, at which commissars (czars) were to teach and DID teach hundreds of American teachers. Some of the biggest names in American Education including now deceased John Dewey were sponsors of that school along with such members of the mass liberal media as Edward R. Murrow who later dispensed pro-Soviet disinformation.

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[Palladin]

You almost got me going with your first sentence! LOL!!

[SoCalPol]

Beck does not differentiate when he says all Republicans
and all democrats.
He does not say there are many good Conservative Republicans but ....

He says Republicans and Democrats are all alike. Has said that many times and other people I know who have heard this
write him off also as a wishful thinker, lacking in Critical Thinking