Posted on 10/27/2009 11:15:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Today the Empire Center for New York State Policy reported New York state residents are leaving the state in large numbers.
Between 2000 and 2008 there was a net loss of 1.5 million NY residents (8.1% of the 2000 population) moving out of NY State, the largest migration of any state. California came in second with a net loss of 1.3 million residents in the same time period.
About 33% of the residents moved to Florida. An estimated 30% of the residents moved to NJ, PA and CT. According to the IRS the majority of the migration originated from the New York City area.
The mass migration peaked in 2005 with 250,000 residents leaving. The lowest point was 2008 with 126,000 net migration. In 2006 and 2007 the heavy migration reduced the state’s tax revenue by $4.3 billion.
The new residents moving to NY State are making about 13% less in income than the residents leaving the state. The Empire Center points to the high cost of living and high taxes as the major reason for the mas migration.
The current migration is a continuation of a longer-term migration trend as the 1990’s resulted in a loss of 1.7 million NY residents. In 1950 NY State accounted for 19% of the American population. By 2000 NY accounted for 7% of the nation’s population.
They all move to Florida and then start making demands and then $#@) that up as well. Libs are a virus, and they’re spreading. The minute anyone says “Boy I could really go for some cous cous,” I start burning my sheets and spraying Lysol.
It means the NY revenues are about to fall. Hold on to your wallet NY, the Tax man cometh.
I guarantee the people leaving are not the welfare parasites. It’s the top income producers who are tired of having their earnings confiscated. It becomes a vicious cycle.
[raises hand] Two accounted for here.
Funny, NY doesn't get as much from residents who aren't any more, as when they were pre-tax-increases.
Damn shame. Maybe the golden goose has laid its last egg.
LOL! A scope on a Mac-10 - and mounted on a fake can to boot?
Why would anyone give up 10 months of cold grey weather, the highest taxes in the union and the stellar leadership of Patterson, Clinton, et.al., for some backwards, inbred Red State? Geez, they must be racist.
Top two states, Democrat stronghold, highest taxes, why would anyone leave? (sarc)
Good catch. We all know you have to have a scope for a 4 inch barrel. It improves accuracy.
Pray they are conservatives...
Gee, increased taxes cause the thing that is taxed to be used less. Who’d think that more taxes would cause people to move elsewhere?
Liberal idiots.
I believe some libs want more people to move out.
New York Libs infect Florida. California Libs infect Colorado. I will bet anything that Wasserman-Schultz and Grayson are NY or NJ Transplants.
They all move to Texas, buy a big white Stetson and think they’re cowboys
Best move of my life.
So obvious, even a blind man could see it.
Half of them moved next door to me in NC.
At least it seems that way....
Not TOO far north, mind you. As long as they stop before they get to the NH border on I-93 or I-95.
Funny that Florida is getting 33% of New Yorkers....when Florida now has a net loss in population
As New Yorkers leave New York...Floridians are leaving Florida....high property taxes, illegal aliens, no jobs, English Refusal, corrupt politics....hey no wonder New Yorkers like Florida....
I visited an oil construction sites in Alaska. In their store was a bumper sticker “Happiness is a Texan headed south with an Okie under each arm”
And where are current Floridians who leave moving to ?
In my current employment I see these people as they are traveling and they seem to be moving to infest North Carolina and Georgia.
The ignorant leftist Rats are leaving the sinking ship but are now turning once conservative southern states into liberal cesspools. They never learn, they just start trashing their new homes while never realizing it is their own policies that create the cesspools.
....and they’re ruining PA!
What would be an interesting map would be one that shows not only the states but also the counties losing and gaining population superimposed on the blue-red county map from the 2008 general election.
Georgia. Property taxes are 1/6th NY’s, and I may own whatever armament I like.
NE Georgia.
According to Wikipedia:
Grayson was born in the Bronx, New York and grew up in the tenements. He graduated from Bronx High School of Science and worked his way through Harvard University, graduating in three years, summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa. He worked as an economist for two years, but then returned to Harvard for graduate studies. Within four years, he earned a law degree with honors from Harvard Law School, a masters in public policy from the John F. Kennedy School of Government and completed the course work and passed the general exams for a Ph.D. in government.
After writing his master's thesis on gerontology, Grayson founded the Alliance for Aging Research, and served as an officer of the organization for more than 20 years.
Maybe Todd Long should get a hold of Grayson's master's thesis on gerontology. Long will be running against Grayson!
What I can’t figure out is why so many of them come here to New Jersey. Taxes are even higher!
if you are a blue-collar working stiff in some shot-and-beer town like Buffalo or Rochester, where wages are modest, but you are forced to shoulder the massive welfare burden of NYC, the numbers quickly make your decision for you.
Egad! Many of them move to Georgia and become “damn Yankees”.
That is true. They made the mess, now they don’t want to pay to clean it up. And as others noted, they will infect other areas with the disease of liberalism.
And I still can't get you to go to the range with me! I'm in the Atlanta area, you NY rat!
I escaped with my wife from CA in 2000 and found a wonderful life in TX. Then TX threw us out when the economy got bad in 02 and sent us to Maryland (hell). After 2.7 years in hell, we again escaped, this time back to the midwest.
I can speak to a standard of living culture shock from experience. Going from San Francisco to TX makes you dizzy. Going from TX to just outside of Baltimore, MD makes you stupid. We had to wear tinfoil hats to protect ourselves while we were there.
the cemetaries.
Wasserman-Schultz is not native to this planet.
Interesting! I do love to see liberal democrats shoot themselves in the foot!
So how many US congressmen/women will NY loose?
So what will that do to property prices in NY if one believes in supply and demand?
So what will that do to the income tax revenues that NY counts on to fund its social programs?
Inquiring minds want to know!
How long can my good luck hold? Must I next leave the entire country to stay solvent?
It's beginning to look like that...
The NYers moving to FL is what gave BO his boost to win the state.
I insist on going to the range with you. The date we shall set, will be any weekend (Saturday) from November 14th on.
This house looks better then BO’s brother’s house; maybe it’s where BO’s aunt lives.
A deceptive comparison. Atlanta is dominated by urban inter-state immigrants (something like 70%), so you’d be comparing more the mindset of crime from other urban areas to that of NYC. Outside major urban centers, and comparing comparable towns, seems you’ll find GA safer than NY. See http://www.bestplaces.net/crime/
One key difference: YOU can provide your own safety in Atlanta, as concealed carry is legal - unlike NYC, where it’s hugely illegal and you may find “safety” more a matter of statistics than personal. Also, self-defense is more a given in GA than NY; in NY people would quaver at the legality of how to handle a home invader, while in GA it’s a given and the result applauded.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.