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"Pledge of Allegiance" Obsolescence Poll
Facebook Poll ^ | October 25, 2009 | Tim T.

Posted on 10/26/2009 7:58:03 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative

A Facebook poll on another important clause in the Pledge of Allegiance. If you are on Facebook, please take a moment to vote and to toss in your two cents' worth in the comments.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: constitution; pledge

1 posted on 10/26/2009 7:58:05 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

first of all, you need to sign up for facebook to vote, which I will not do at this time, second do you notice how they split the “no”s into three parts, and the “yes” into only two?

not to get into the bias in the wording


2 posted on 10/26/2009 8:02:51 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, ....”


3 posted on 10/26/2009 8:03:02 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“mmmm mmm mm”


4 posted on 10/26/2009 8:03:14 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I pointed out that whoever devised the poll is an ignoramus.


5 posted on 10/26/2009 8:06:28 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia; camle
I pointed out that whoever devised the poll is an ignoramus.

I resemble that remark.

What exactly about the poll wording leads you to this conclusion?

P.S. Camle - it's not intended to be an unbiased poll, silly.

6 posted on 10/26/2009 8:18:59 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Who here still pledges allegience to this nation anyway?


7 posted on 10/26/2009 8:21:54 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: La Lydia

They are fishing to find out how many actually know what a Republic is!

No, this country was not “set up,” , as a democracy nor to practice democracy, which is mob rule. This nation was established as a democratic republic and is based on U.S. constitutional law, that applies to all U.S. citizens. Not mob rule. And it remains a Republic. And the overwhelming majority of Americans intend to keep it that way – because the overwhelming majority of Americans value and support the Constitution and want to preserve it as it was written – a FACT that every independent poll in this country shows.
Conservatism seeks to CONSERVE, to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
—Patrick Henry

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

So, let’s analyze the basic forms of government. They are, Monarchy or Dictatorship ruled by one, Oligarchy ruled by a few, Democracy ruled by the majority, Republic ruled by law, and Anarchy which is ruled by no one

These calculating anarchist work to break down the existing government with rioting, killing, looting, and terrorism. Tragically, the people living in such chaos often go to those best able to put an end to it and beg them to take over and restore order. Who is best able to put an end to the chaos, the very people who started it? The anarchist who created the problem then creates a government run by them, an Oligarchy, where they have total power. This is exactly what happened in Russia that led to Lenin taking total power and in Germany where Hitler’s Brown Shirts created the chaos that brought him to power.

Democracy - majority opinion rules.

What about Republic? Well that comes from the Latin, Res, meaning thing and Publica, meaning public. It means the public thing, the law. A true Republic is one where the government is limited by law leaving the people alone.

Many Americans would be surprised to learn that the word Democracy does not appear in the Declaration of Independence or the U. S. Constitution. Nor does it appear in any of the Constitutions of the fifty states. The founders did everything they could to keep us from having a Democracy.
In every case, they ended up with mob rule then anarchy and finally tyranny under an Oligarchy. When government power grows peoples’ freedom recedes.

Despot
1. a king or other ruler with absolute, unlimited power; autocrat.
2. any tyrant or oppressor.
Despotism-ruled by a tyrant or oppressor

The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy (Communism) so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst.”


8 posted on 10/26/2009 8:53:43 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: mbarker12474
Who here still pledges allegiance to this nation anyway?

I say we start, right now. Every day. As soon as we log onto FR. Make it a part of our daily routine.

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

9 posted on 10/26/2009 10:35:36 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (The Libs play dirty. The Libs ARE dirty.)
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To: Freddd
They are fishing to find out how many actually know what a Republic is!

THANK YOU! That's exactly right.

The initial target of the poll was my brother in law, who promptly failed the test.

10 posted on 10/26/2009 10:56:16 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
>> Who here still pledges allegiance to this nation anyway? I say we start, right now. Every day. As soon as we log onto FR. Make it a part of our daily routine.

> "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

No such thing to pledge allegience to. After decades of dabbling in socialist tyranny, a majority voted last year to formalize the abandonment of republic, God, unity, liberty and justice. It's over.

11 posted on 10/26/2009 11:03:01 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: mbarker12474

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”


12 posted on 10/26/2009 11:35:15 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (The Libs play dirty. The Libs ARE dirty.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

What about “indivisible”?


13 posted on 10/27/2009 9:26:17 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: TexasKamaAina
What about “indivisible”?

It's been "conventional wisdom" since the Civil War that there is no right of secession, so most government-school-educated folks would see nothing wrong with this term in the Pledge.

14 posted on 10/28/2009 6:14:15 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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