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Dallas police ticketed 39 drivers in 3 years for not speaking English
Dallas News ^ | Friday, October 23, 2009 | SCOTT GOLDSTEIN

Posted on 10/24/2009 1:21:25 AM PDT by BradtotheBone

Dallas police wrongly ticketed at least 39 drivers for not speaking English over the last three years, Police Chief David Kunkle announced Friday while promising to investigate all officers involved in the cases for dereliction of duty.

Pending cases will be dismissed, and those who paid the $204 fine for the charge, which does not exist in the city, will be reimbursed, Kunkle said.

"I was surprised and stunned that that would happen, particularly in the city of Dallas," Kunkle said. "In my world, you would never tell someone not to speak Spanish."

The citations were issued in several different patrol divisions by at least six different officers. One of those officers was responsible for five of the citations, Kunkle said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; illegalalien

1 posted on 10/24/2009 1:21:25 AM PDT by BradtotheBone
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To: BradtotheBone
Learn to Speak English
2 posted on 10/24/2009 1:28:03 AM PDT by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: BradtotheBone

This is interesting in that the while the drivers could not speak English, could they READ the road signs?

Anyone have any experience with an international drivers license that could add to this? (International license being relevant due to tourism)


3 posted on 10/24/2009 1:28:19 AM PDT by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: BradtotheBone

4 posted on 10/24/2009 1:28:24 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: This_far
Anyone have any experience with an international drivers license that could add to this?

I've driven all over Europe w/o an international license. You'd be surprised how intuitive the signage is. Of course, it does require one have reasonable intelligence which may or may not exclude people of a certain persuasion.

5 posted on 10/24/2009 1:32:08 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: BradtotheBone

39 tickets issued... 36 months... Oh the humanities...


6 posted on 10/24/2009 1:34:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: BradtotheBone

“Pending cases will be dismissed, and those who paid the $204 fine for the charge, which does not exist in the city, will be reimbursed, Kunkle said”

I wonder how did the courts know to fine them $204 if the charge doesn’t exist?


7 posted on 10/24/2009 1:42:00 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: South40

You don’t need to know the language to drive in a foreign country, but it sure as hell helps!


8 posted on 10/24/2009 1:57:27 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: jospehm20

That’s a bit of creative reporting in an effort to hype their “evil, racist cops” angle. It’s a state charge that applies only to commercial drivers. So it’s a real crime, it’s a crime in the city, it’s just not a crime the city does the enforcement on.

The story indicates that the customary race pimp circus leap into action and is in full performance, too.


9 posted on 10/24/2009 2:07:49 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: BradtotheBone

Did you see that stop sign?

Si?...

Yes, did you?

Si?

Then why did you run it?

No?

Yes you did sir...

Si?

Okay, now you’re just messing with me.

Si...


10 posted on 10/24/2009 2:16:36 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: South40
Of course, it does require one have reasonable intelligence which may or may not exclude people of a certain persuasion.

Thanks. I've only travelled Canada & Mexico but have acquaintances who have International License. (never thought to ask them about it)

You may have stated an underlying problem. Not sure how it should be dealt with though, considering international tourism.

11 posted on 10/24/2009 2:19:27 AM PDT by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: BradtotheBone
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

In America we have freedom of speech and that freedom can be exercised in any language.

12 posted on 10/24/2009 2:33:51 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: This_far

I have driven in countries that don’t even use the same alphabet as ours and still could find my way around.


13 posted on 10/24/2009 2:36:01 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: ArmstedFragg

I did notice the race circus part at the end of the story.


14 posted on 10/24/2009 2:36:51 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: SatinDoll
You don’t need to know the language to drive in a foreign country, but it sure as hell helps! -------------------------------- definitely! but then again... ;-) 2 1
15 posted on 10/24/2009 2:55:24 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: darkside321

Isn’t “shutzenfester” what Rickman said to Gudunov in Die Hard in the glass-shooting scene?


16 posted on 10/24/2009 2:58:53 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: BradtotheBone
there are police officers out there representing our city who actually think that it's a crime not to speak English

How about "Not speaking English while being an illegal alien?" That sounds like an idea for a law.

17 posted on 10/24/2009 2:58:58 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Larry Lucido

sorry but i really don´t know. i have only watched “die Hard” in german :-) so difficult to say for me what they say in the original english version.


18 posted on 10/24/2009 3:10:24 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: trumandogz
I have driven in countries that don’t even use the same alphabet as ours and still could find my way around.

I can only reply in envy (or that you're talking about Boston or other major city?)

19 posted on 10/24/2009 3:14:18 AM PDT by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: darkside321

I had it wrong. Apparently it was something like “Schiess dem Fenster”

Here is a funny clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgBWDdVZrTs


20 posted on 10/24/2009 3:30:57 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: Right Wing Assault

How about “Not speaking English while being an illegal alien?” That sounds like an idea for a law.


thank god! we have such a law here in my country now. if you are a immigrant and you are not able to speak german and you are not willing to learn it you can get kicked out of the country after one year.


21 posted on 10/24/2009 3:32:51 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: jospehm20
And how did the pukes who couldn't speak English find out they were wrongly fined?

Sounds to me like a young cadet trial lawyer was spending her spare time engaged in a close review of traffic court records.

She'll go far in that racket eh!

22 posted on 10/24/2009 3:40:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: trumandogz
BTW, India has pretty much the same system of laws that we do in the United States. Since they currently have dozens of languages spoken they've determined that the only way their courts can work is for all the litigants to show up with their own interpreters.

The United States has not quite evolved to that standard but it should.

I feel so cold and naked sitting here with an understanding that the Hindus are ahead of us.

23 posted on 10/24/2009 3:43:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Larry Lucido

I had it wrong. Apparently it was something like “Schiess dem Fenster”

Here is a funny clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgBWDdVZrTs


*lol* schieß dem Fenster. no wonder he didn´t understand him :-) . nor would any german speaking person. For “schieß dem Fenster” you would earn a HELLO????


24 posted on 10/24/2009 3:44:03 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: darkside321; Larry Lucido
Had not yet seen "Planet of the Apes" so I stepped into a theatre in Munchen then showing "Planeten auf den Apfen".

What a laugh riot ~ dubbed in Deutsche, subtitled in French.

Thank goodness my French reading comprehension was still good.

25 posted on 10/24/2009 3:46:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: darkside321
if you are a immigrant and you are not able to speak german and you are not willing to learn it you can get kicked out of the country after one year

Sounds like a good law. I wish we had it.

26 posted on 10/24/2009 3:58:36 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

There are many reasons they could be in America. Let’s not automatically assume they are illegal aliens. People do actually still come here for the freedom we still have and they do it legally. I think they need to learn English! But we could be nicer and help them a bit instead of just calling them illegal aliens and isolating them into their cultural communities where they will never learn English.


27 posted on 10/24/2009 4:00:24 AM PDT by thedeaconskid
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To: muawiyah

How do you say “popcorn” in German? I quite studying German after I learned how to say beer, wiener schnitzel and where’s the women. Then my favorite German restaurant closed and I had to learn French restaurant language. Still working on that.

Parley vous parfait?

Nyet?!!?

Ach de liber!


28 posted on 10/24/2009 4:09:08 AM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: muawiyah

well i hope for you it was “Planet der Affen” and not “planets on the ape” as you wrote ;-)
(btw. your german is still pretty good because i know german is very hard to learn. it´s a “bitchy” language).
yeah it´s funny to watch movies in foreign languages
greetings


29 posted on 10/24/2009 4:11:22 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: BradtotheBone

I wonder if you can apply for a Mexican drivers license in English?


30 posted on 10/24/2009 4:12:30 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Sounds like a good law. I wish we had it.


yep ideed! it´s sad that they have been forced to install such a law anyway (because normaly if i want to live in a new country the first thing i would want is to learn the language) but it really works. since we are overun (like any western country) by immigrants it´s a good start to kick people out who are not willing to integrate.


31 posted on 10/24/2009 4:22:06 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: thedeaconskid

I didn’t say these people were illegal. I just said, somewhat in jest, how about a law for illegals who didn’t speak English.


32 posted on 10/24/2009 4:24:37 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: darkside321
Whatever it was called in Northern Germany I'm sure the guys in Munchen were more than willing to misspell it in their own inimitible way.

Stationed in Frankenreich I discovered you can pronounced Deutsche such that virtually no one can understand it.

33 posted on 10/24/2009 4:25:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sergeantdave
Best I ever heard (along that line) was our Company First Sergeant (Comacho, from Hawaii) who could speak simultaneously in about 15 different languages.

Guy was incredible.

34 posted on 10/24/2009 4:27:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ArmstedFragg

You’re correct in that it IS the law that those with commercial driving licenses must be conversive in English.

I read yesterday that the computers in the police cars do NOT specify that the violation is only applicable to those with CDLs. The computer listing only indicates that not being English-conversive is a violation.

Therefore, many of the tickets were probably the result of the policemen just doing what their computer listing told them.

Dallas is essentially another “sanctuary” city for illegals and the news media there is all liberal. ....Don’t believe everything that comes from the Dallas media, because it’s all leaning far to the left.


35 posted on 10/24/2009 4:29:15 AM PDT by octex
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To: Right Wing Assault

In order for that to happen, we would have to make English our official language. I think it should happen, but I highly doubt it with the liberal mindset that is taking over!


36 posted on 10/24/2009 4:35:42 AM PDT by thedeaconskid
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To: sergeantdave

How do you say “popcorn” in German? I quite studying German after I learned how to say beer, wiener schnitzel and where’s the women. Then my favorite German restaurant closed and I had to learn French restaurant language. Still working on that.

Parley vous parfait?

Nyet?!!?

Ach de liber!


popcorn = popcorn . *lol* i see you made the austrian survival crash course.this two words beer = Bier and wiener schnitzel will ensure you will survive there :-)

no unfortunately my french is just awfull. but then again the good old “Voulez vous couche avec moi cette nuit” really helped me spending nights in paris ;-)

greetings


37 posted on 10/24/2009 4:43:01 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: muawiyah

Whatever it was called in Northern Germany I’m sure the guys in Munchen were more than willing to misspell it in their own inimitible way.
Stationed in Frankenreich I discovered you can pronounced Deutsche such that virtually no one can understand it.


yep no problem! the slang can get pretty wierd. just visit the extreme country side and you will think they talk in a forreign language to you. btw. there is nothing like the fun to talk to a nothern german for me (Austrian) normally i just can´t stop laughing because it sounds so funny :-)
btw. they do insert subtitles on TV (and believe me you definitely need it) when they talk to someone from the swiss. so yes german is a wierd language.


38 posted on 10/24/2009 4:58:48 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: BradtotheBone; sit-rep; Squantos; Eaker

At least a dozen of those were mine. The first was to a Miss Eliza Doolittle.

Then I wrote several others for speaking ebonics and/or jive.

Also wrote a few yankees for not speaking Texan.


39 posted on 10/24/2009 6:00:31 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: BradtotheBone

There is a distint difference between an international drivers license and one issued by the country you are in.


40 posted on 10/24/2009 6:14:36 AM PDT by clove (In God we Trust, all others need a birth certificate and picture ID)
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To: BradtotheBone

41 posted on 10/24/2009 6:33:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: Odgred Weary

Not speaking English makes you a road hazard in this country. Those people’d had no trouble in Dallas if they’d walked or rode public transit. I’m on the lookout for someone legally using medical marijuana who gets in my way on the road with all that weaving and jerking the’re prone too ~ got my nine too ~ see: http://www.superlyrics.com/lyrics/kGRU0hxXY9@H@x/I_Got_My_Nine_lyrics_by_RBL_Posse.html


43 posted on 10/24/2009 8:41:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: darkside321
That should be Voulez-vous coucher avec moi cette nuit (or ce soir).

Familiar to monoglot anglophones from some popular songs. Wikipedia traces the familiarity with the expression, on the part of English speakers, to a poem by E. E. Cummings.

44 posted on 10/24/2009 8:43:05 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Odgred Weary
More likely it was a simple mistake ~ one created by the Internet Age ~ see a post above where the Freeper notes the use of certain technology gives the street officer only an abbreviation of what is really up.

Still sounds like a good idea to me though.

46 posted on 10/25/2009 10:31:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: South40


47 posted on 10/25/2009 1:00:37 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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