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Wikipedia banned me from editing political articles because I added true info about Obama
October 23, 2009 | me

Posted on 10/23/2009 6:28:17 PM PDT by grundle

I have been a registered editor at wikipedia for about two and a half years.

The following restriction was just placed on me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive572#Grundle2600:_continued_problems

"Grundle2600 is subject to an indefinite topic ban - he is prohibited from editing any pages relating to US politics or politicians. The ban will be enforced by escalating blocks."

As a so-called justification for this restriction, the following contributions by me to wikipedia were cited:

"On April 20, 2009, Obama convened his Cabinet for the first time, and ordered them to reduce the $3.5 trillion federal budget by $100 million." Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/19/AR2009041902009.html

"In February 2009, U.S. Senator Robert Byrd (D-West Virginia) expressed concern that Obama's czars might violate the U.S. Constitution, because they were not approved by the U.S. Senate." Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/19303.html "U.S. Senator Russ Feingold (D-Wisconsin) expressed a similar concern in September 2009." Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/59071-feingold-questions-obama-czars

"In September 2009, Obama's green czar Van Jones resigned after conservatives pointed out that he was a self described 'communist' and had blamed George W. Bush for the September 11 attacks." Source: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/06/phil-kerpen-van-jones-resign/

"In September 2009, it was reported that Kevin Jennings, Obama's Assistant Deputy Secretary for the Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools, had written about his past frequent illegal drug use in his 2007 autobiography." Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/23/critics-assail-obamas-safe-schools-czar-say-hes-wrong-man-job/

"Obama fired the CEO of General Motors..." Source: http://www.suntimes.com/business/1501561,w-obama-gm-wagoner032909.article "... and had the government take 60.8% ownership of the company." Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/us_owned_gm_rolls_off_the_lot_7MTALtVxWbRUK0OCm4uQgK

"During the Chrysler bankruptcy, Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock accused Obama of violating the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution and more than 150 years of bankruptcy law by treating secured creditors worse than unsecured creditors." Source: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32074

"In August 2009, Obama supported $2 billion in loan guarantees to fund offshore drilling." Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/20/loan-brazilian-oil-company-riles-conservatives-favor-offshore-drilling/

"In May 2009, the Obama administration dismissed charges that had been filed by the Bush administration against members of the New Black Panther Party who had been videotaped intimidating voters and brandishing a police-style baton at a Philadelphia polling station during the November 2008 election." Sources: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/28/justice-department-drops-charges-in-voter-intimidation-case/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/05/29/charges-black-panthers-dropped-obama/ "In August 2009, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights demanded that the Justice Department explain why it dismissed the charges." Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/04/panel-demands-panther-answers/

"In June 2009, Obama fired Inspector General Gerald Walpin, after Walpin accused Sacramento mayor Kevin Johnson, an Obama supporter, of misuse of AmeriCorps funding to pay for school-board political activities. In a letter to Congress, the White House said that Walpin was fired because he was 'confused, disoriented, unable to answer questions and exhibited other behavior that led the Board to question his capacity to serve.' Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23831.html "A bipartisan group of 145 current and former public officials, attorneys, and legal scholars signed a letter that was sent to the White House, which defended Walpin, said the criticisms of him were not true, and said that his firing was politically motivated." Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/47280-allies-of-official-fired-by-obama-mount-defense

"In July 2009, White House reporter Helen Thomas criticized the Obama administration for what she considered to be a lack of transparency." Source: http://www.breitbart.tv/white-house-reporters-grill-gibbs-over-selected-questions-for-obama/

"In March 2007, Obama said, 'I don’t think we’re going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There’s going to be, potentially, some transition process...'" Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25779.html

"In September 2009, senior presidential adviser David Axelrod reiterated Obama's opposition to repealing the ban on interstate sales of health insurance." Source: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/09/sitroom.01.html


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: vanity; wackypedia; wikipedia

1 posted on 10/23/2009 6:28:17 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

You done got Ozotted.


2 posted on 10/23/2009 6:33:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: grundle

Well no one really looks to Wikipedia for political facts anyway. The entire media is neutered of them. The revisionists want it that way so that they can revise history when immediate facts fade from memory.


3 posted on 10/23/2009 6:37:42 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: grundle

Wow, intense. Censorship...pfffftt.


4 posted on 10/23/2009 6:39:00 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet!)
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To: grundle
Wikipedia is completely and totally controlled by leftist hacks. I wouldn't be surprised that many of these fools are directly working for the marxist, given the revelations about Holder's internet goon squad.

Wikipedia is utterly and completely worthless as a real reliable source, however it plays a large role in shaping public opinion because many school kids mindlessly use it.

The leftists know this, so they entrenched themselves in the Wikipedia hierarchy and use it as a vehicle to promote their agenda. The rules that they put in place are designed to destroy any dissent and ensure that it fits their view of the world.

5 posted on 10/23/2009 6:39:11 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: grundle

Given the fact that Wikipeida is as far left as you can possibly get in all ways imaginable it would not surprise me if there was someone in the west wing dedicated to maintaining the page themselves.


6 posted on 10/23/2009 6:39:37 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: All

Please send this thread’s heading and link to Matt Drudge. His website has a box on the right side of the screen, about half way down, where you can submit it:

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Just copy and paste the following into that box. Thank you:

Wikipedia banned me from editing political articles because I added true info about Obama

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2369744/posts


7 posted on 10/23/2009 6:46:11 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle
How about sending this information to Jim Hoft over at Gateway Pundit/First Things? Maybe he would do a write up on it ... it would make a very good (informative!) story ... there's a contact button at the bottom of the site ...
8 posted on 10/23/2009 6:56:07 PM PDT by mlizzy ("It is impossible to walk rapidly and be unhappy" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: grundle
You have to be more subtle.

My edit to the bio of Sun Yat-Sen ("In March 1904, he obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, issued by the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on Nov. 24, 1870 in Kula, Maui by signing a statement declaring so, providing a photograph of himself and having Chinese friends attest to his birth.[5]") linking to an image of the referenced document, is still intact.

Maybe the parallel with the Kenyan is too subtle.

9 posted on 10/23/2009 7:09:12 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Keep your powder dry, and your iron hidden.)
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To: grundle

bump


10 posted on 10/23/2009 7:13:45 PM PDT by Soul Citizen
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Most colleges won’t even let you use Wikipedia as a source for any document that is written.


11 posted on 10/23/2009 7:48:36 PM PDT by kempster
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To: kempster

One of their positive attributes


12 posted on 10/23/2009 7:55:14 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: grundle
Not unknown among the Leftwingtards. Buddy of mine was a student in the old days in the USSR. One day he got an assignment to do an overnight Hegelian analysis of some public problem

Next day he handed in his work.

That afternoon he was drafted and hauled away to the Russian Army out on the Chinese border.

Seems the Communist party already had a position on the problem, and he should have just copied it.

So far you are lucky. Consider it a fair warning to stay away from the Leftwingtards.

13 posted on 10/23/2009 8:04:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: grundle

Looks like a quite a bunch of editors ganged up there on you. Some of those names seem familiar, maybe demo-underground regulars or some such, might make for some interesting digging.


14 posted on 10/23/2009 8:36:24 PM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: grundle

When dealing with those wikipedia guys, pretend to be moslem. Brag about killing white people by stuffing explosives up your butt, getting close to your target, then detonating your butt-bomb. Google it. It’s the new fashion.

If you keep that up for a couple days, they’ll put you in charge of the wikipedia organization. Then you can post what you want.


15 posted on 10/23/2009 8:41:49 PM PDT by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: mquinn

BUMP


16 posted on 10/23/2009 9:37:15 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Well no one really looks to Wikipedia for political facts anyway.

You're joking, right? Wikipedia, for better or worse, is universally considered a credible source everywhere except the bibliography section of high school term papers.
17 posted on 10/23/2009 10:11:10 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: grundle

You shouldn’t be surprised; Wikipedia is horribly biased when it comes to any sort of political topic.


18 posted on 10/23/2009 10:30:16 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: grundle

Wikipedia is the home ground of leftists. If you want to keep on doing it, get a different name for reverts, even you would probably get more zots.


19 posted on 10/23/2009 10:53:44 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: grundle

Does that mean your new login name will be DISgrundleD?


20 posted on 10/23/2009 10:59:12 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Terpfen

I predicated the word “facts” with something. Look, what am I doing here? Political facts are not something you’re going to find in the main-stream while political correctness remains the opiate of the masses. And whoever is on the board of Wiki sure isn’t going to bow down to any other false gods.


21 posted on 10/24/2009 4:24:05 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
I predicated the word “facts” with something.

Doesn't matter. If Joe Average trusts Wikipedia to tell him who won the Indy 500 six years ago, he'll trust Wikipedia to give him reliable info about politicians.
22 posted on 10/24/2009 9:08:38 AM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: grundle
I can see perfectly why you got banned, and rightly so. Look at how many sources you used from right-wing smear groups - Fox News, Washington Times, Breitbart.

Next time, try Daily Kos and Huffington Post, like a real reporter would.

23 posted on 10/24/2009 9:33:11 AM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Terpfen

The “fact” is that politics is not something you’re going to get the whole story on using Wiki. If Joe Average thinks he can get it then he’s only getting what he deserves. It’s not that they’re lying usually, it’s that they will leave out stuff that might piss someone off. Namely a liberal.


24 posted on 10/26/2009 7:20:54 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
The “fact” is that politics is not something you’re going to get the whole story on using Wiki.

Why are you arguing a point not in contention? Of course they aren't going to get the full story on Wiki. That's the problem.

If Joe Average thinks he can get it then he’s only getting what he deserves.

Facepalm.
25 posted on 10/26/2009 7:34:46 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Terpfen
Not in contention? OK, this is what you originally told me:

Wikipedia, for better or worse, is universally considered a credible source everywhere...

But, fine, nevermind...
26 posted on 10/26/2009 10:17:02 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I think the multi-day gap between your replies caused you to forget exactly what we were talking about in the first place.

Wikipedia is considered a credible source. Joe Average will assign the same amount of trust in what Wikipedia says about Sarah Palin as it does about the winners of the Indy 500. This is a problem because Wiki’s articles about conservatism and conservatives are more interested in making both look bad than in being balanced in its descriptions.

Your assertion is that Wikipedia doesn’t matter, and people should trust it at their own peril. You’re right about the latter, but not about the former: Wikipedia DOES matter simply because it’s accessed so frequently. It is considered a neutral source, just like Factcheck (and we know that Factcheck is left-leaning as well.)

Nothing I said in tonight’s replies is somehow a contradiction of what I said days ago.

tl;dr You’re not only wrong that Wikipedia doesn’t matter but you completely forgot what you’re talking about, if you even knew in the first place.


27 posted on 10/26/2009 11:40:20 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I just “bumped” this thread by “pinging” you to it . . . bumping results in this particular thread climbing to the top of the Latest Comments page.


28 posted on 10/27/2009 6:54:37 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Ahhh... many thanks, Moderator! I have always wondered how that worked!


29 posted on 10/27/2009 7:24:44 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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