Posted on 10/23/2009 5:17:13 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
Senate Republican campaign chief John Cornyn (Texas) turned his eye toward New York this week, and on Thursday he expressed confidence the GOP could go after Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) in 2010.
New York has emerged as perhaps the next big recruiting target for Cornyn. Candidates have flooded primaries in other races, but all eyes in New York are on Gov. George Pataki, who could decide as early as the next two weeks.
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I hope George Pataki runs. He was a fairly conservative governor during his first two terms. He unfortunately moved to the left during his third and last term, but there’s a good chance he’s learned from that mistake.
Does the article mention NY-23?
i doubt it
Not this one.
Well hopefully they nominate from the Right/Center and NOT the Center/Left.
He would be a good candidate. I’d like to see Peter King run, too.
Senate Republican leaders looking to recruit more pro-abortion liberals in NY
Goddamned phony conservative Cornyn chasing after DIABLO Pataki. Pataki wasn’t “fairly conservative”; he was a screeching liberal, and I’ve never seen anyone move to the right after going to Washington. Pataki was to the left of Giuliani, minus the boldness, persistance and character. Maybe Cornyn can get Scuzzyflava to run for the post.
Seriously, we have to get rid of Cornyn. His staffers were trying to tell me how loyal and conservative Specter was THE VERY HOUR Specter announced he was a Democrat.
If Pataki wins, I’m renaming New York “New Patakistan.”
The funny thing is that Pataki likely wouldn't be the worst new GOP senator, or even in the top 3, but that's solely because the other "recruits" the GOP is working on -- Mark Kirk of IL, Mike Castle of Delaware, Rob Simmons of Conn., etc. are even worse. The others are virtual Democrats (DIABLOs) to begin with, whereas Pataki is more of a irksome Colin Powell type.
Buck W. mentions hoping that treasonous RINO Peter King runs as well. Actually, that's entirely possible they could BOTH be in the general election, since Schumer's seat is up for re-election in 2010 as well. Polls show King is about as likely to "win" statewide as Hamas is likely to convert to Orthodox Judiasm. However, I would certainly favor a King candidacy for the same reason AuH2ORepublican looks forward to Castle leaving his house seat for a Senate race -- it gives us a chance to finally put a decent non-RINO in his Republican-friendly house seat. (yes there's a possibility King's house seat could be drawn out of existence in 2012, but Rod Blagojevich thought the same thing when he decided to give up his house seat to run for Governor in 2002 -- and they ended up eliminating southern Illinois' house seat instead. Let's focus on what's attainable now in 2010). So if any freepers can pry King's attention away from kissing Dede Scozzafava's behind long enough to discuss the Senate race, please encourage him to run for Schumer's seat in 2010. Then the RINO will get crushed so badly he'll never run again, and he'll and no longer plague us in Congress.
Between the two of them, Pataki probably actually has the "more liberal" record on legislation but King is probably the more dangerous RINO of the two due to his extremely cozy relationships with socialists and terrorists (and this is no exaggeration, he's the no. #1 fan of the IRA in the U.S. and he's quite public about the fact he's a best friend of the Clinton crime family). I would probably hold my nose for Pataki because he's almost certain to be an improvement over Gillibrand since she jettisoned all her "moderate" values the moment she entered the Senate. King I wouldn't support for dog catcher.
As for Cornyn, I'm not thrilled with his judgement when it comes to supporting candidates.
or left/lefter/lefter/leftist
You know what as a Conservative I disagreed quite a lot with Rudy’s positions on the issues in the 2008 Presidential Primary, but the one think I can say about the man: He knows what he believes and STICKS to it, at least I can believe him when he says something..much cannot be said for most “Moderates”!
Peter King is an anti-gun, anti-freedom, progressive, piece of slime. He’s a RINO in the worst sense of the word.
What's your basis for that statement?
Pataki is a RINO, and a crook besides. Has he endorsed Hoffman?
As a lifelong NYer who really doesn’t like Pataki very much, I also want Pataki to run and will back him 100%. I’ll do so enthusiastically. I’ll back him with not only money, but with my time as well. And that’s a lot coming from me.
Do you have someone better who can run for this seat with a chance in hell of winning?
And I’ll remind you that we’re not talking about a Lincoln Chaffee here. Pataki ain’t perfect, but he’s Not Arlen Spector either.
thanks, bfl
Landing Pataki or Giuliani in New York would be a game-changer. Either one could field a legitimate Senate campaign in a state that is nearly impossible to win as a Republican. Gillibrand is vulnerable and this is as good an opportunity as has been possible in New York in over a decade.
Cornyn has assembled a bunch well-known candidates for Senate races in 2010. I think they have an excellent chance to make gains and actually gain some measure of power back in the Senate.
Charlie Crist
Mike Castle
Pat Toomey
Rob Portman
Kelly Ayotte
Roy Blunt
Mark Kirk
Rob Simmons
Jane Norton
Trey Grayson
Carly Fiorina
Charlie Crist
Mike Castle
Arlen Specter
Roy Blunt
Mark Kirk
Rob Simmons
Carly Fiorina
Peter King
Linda Lingle
Peter King has his problem, and his (former) support for the IRA is just plain odd and scary. He no longer supports the IRA, but that says nothing about his horrendous judgment. That said, apart for his blindness to Irish terrorism, King *is* a conservative, far moreso than Graham, Pataki, Castle, Kirk, or Simmons, or even Cornyn. While many RINOs have ACU ratings not much worse than King, in King’s case, his ACU rating underestimates his conservatism. Most RINOs vote more party line when the outcome is obvious, but betray their teammates when the vote is contentious.
King is closer to Ron Paul in his voting temperament (albeit very different in ideology): He is fairly reliable on major contentious issues, and is willing to stick his neck out when the party establishment would rather play it safe. He is pro-labor and environmentalist, but his pro-labor positions are more in support of populist, private-sector than the public-sector fascist groups like AFSCME, ATCA, NETU, etc., which are becoming the dominant unions. And his environmentalism is geared more towards preservation (which you could argue is literally conservatism) than the Green-Red movement.
King is "more conservative" than Castle, Simmons, and Kirk only because the latter three are so far that they're defacto Democrats (DIABLO - Democrat In All But Label Only) and manage to rate to the left of alot of Democrats in their states. As for the rest, there's no way King is "more conservative" than them. Saying he's to the right of Cornyn, for example, is just plain laughable. Cornyn is too much of an establishment hack but his ACU rating is always in the 90s or 100 as his fan club here frequently points out. King has ACU ratings in the 60s and 70s. And certainly the ACU rating alone doesn't show everything, but every other measureable conservative group shows King rated further left. For example, King is a gun-grabber who routinely gets Ds and Fs from the NRA and the GOA, compared to A ratings for Graham and Cornyn. King is solidly pro-life but the same can be said for Graham and Cornyn. The idea that King is "with us when it counts" has also been debunked by anyone who's followed King's career over the past decade. King has sided with the RATs on multiple major pieces of legislation and done everything he could to derail the conservative cause, such as being THE most outspoken Clinton defender on the GOP side during Slick Wilie's impeachment hearings. Check out his current staunch support for fellow RINO Scozzafava.
ACU ratings mean bupkis. But he’s from Texas, so he votes reliably Republican, the way Moynihan used to vote reliably Democrat. But Cornyn is a lefty, through and through, who will do everything within his power to make sure conservatives are sidelined from any real power. Like I noted, I was fighting with his staffer over Cornyn’s enthusiastic support for Specter the very hour that Specter was announcing he was, and always had been, a loyal liberal. Cornyn also supported Liz (”Take Back the Party [away from conservatives]”) Dole, Linc Chafee, James Jeffords, etc.
It’s time you woke and realized that not every Washington politician’s ideology can be inferred from his ACU rating. They’re far too devious for that. Mark my words: if every Senator in Washington declared themselves to be Republican on the condition that they would always vote for every bill that Nacy Pelosi told them to vote for, John Cornyn would be a very, very happy man.
Oh, wow. You managed to match up photos of them facing the same direction. You must be right. Peter King is the only downstate New York Republican, out of 19 districts. His is the Jewish Gold Coast. Yet, because of his political skills, his district is represented by solidly pro-life, pro-assimilation votes. On the other hand, John Cornyn is an open-borders statist who has been working his ass off to stock the Republican primaries full of pro-abortion, socialist ghouls, like Arlen Specter, Lincoln Chafee, Mark Kirk, Mike Castle and Rob Simmons. Yes, Cornyn votes pro-life; he’d get thrown out of office if he didn’t. But he does everything he can to make sure he keeps the pro-lifers at bay. Cornyn will beat Arlen Specter to Hell.
Oh, wow. You managed to match up photos of them facing the same direction. You must be right. Peter King is the only downstate New York Republican, out of 19 districts. His is the Jewish Gold Coast. Yet, because of his political skills, his district is represented by solidly pro-life, pro-assimilation votes. On the other hand, John Cornyn is an open-borders statist who has been working his ass off to stock the Republican primaries full of pro-abortion, socialist ghouls, like Arlen Specter, Lincoln Chafee, Mark Kirk, Mike Castle and Rob Simmons. Yes, Cornyn votes pro-life; he’d get thrown out of office if he didn’t. But he does everything he can to make sure he keeps the pro-lifers at bay. Cornyn will beat Arlen Specter to Hell.
McCain and Bush carried King's district. It's a Republican-leaning seat. We don't need his "political skills" to hold it.
With guys like Simmons, Kirk, and Castle in there to go with Snowe and Collins you might as well mentally subtract 5 votes from the Republican total.
Ayotte and Norton look like good recruits.
Crist is on pace to lose the Republican primary to Marco Rubio, as he should.
The recruitment of Crist was great for 1 reason only, it gets him our of the Governor’s mansion and hopefully on to the unemployment line.
You mention Pat Toomey. Cornyn didn’t “assemble” him. Toomey entered the race to oppose Cornyn’s favored RINO incumbent, Arlen the Defector whom the NRSC would have backed to the bitter end. Happily Arlen chose to enter the rat primary instead, leaving Cornyn with egg on his face.
I bet tobacco is not sole ingredient in that cigar.
Almost anyone’s an improvement over the current two DB’s NY has for US Senators.
Of course MA doesn’t exactly have the best or brightest either, but that’s another story...
... and the only Republican-leaning district in all of New York and New England. Wonder how that happened? Because unlike all the other New York and New England, King (and several New Jersey Reoublicans) went with economic moderation and social conservatism, instead of insisting they were economic conservatives but social liberals.
Wrong. And do you mean to suggest the district votes Republican for President because of King? That's laughable. Congressman do not effect how their districts vote for President.
"The reality is that a statewide Democratic candidate starts the race with a voter registration edge of almost 3 million. To overcome such a large margin, there would have to be intensive media coverage of the race and I would need to raise at least $30 million."What a phony clymer King is."That is why I would have run if Caroline Kennedy were the Democratic candidate. Her candidacy would have generated the media coverage and financial contributions necessary for me to run a competitive race. That’s all I would have hoped for. Once the race became competitive, it would have been up to me to win it by contrasting my blue collar conservatism with her Manhattan liberalism."
"That race was not to be. Senator Gillibrand generates neither strong support nor opposition. This makes it virtually impossible for me to raise the campaign funds I would need to overcome the built-in Democratic registration advantage and the countless millions of dollars which the Democrats will make available to Senator Gillibrand."
(Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/08/king-takes-a-pass-on-gillibran.html)
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