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Possible Credit Dislocation: Be Warned
The Market Ticker ^ | 10/23/09 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 10/23/2009 12:40:41 PM PDT by FromLori

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To: AlmaKing
I'm a buyer here waiting to see if my application is going to be denied for the 4th time based on several new gov't and bank regulations hitting right now.

That must be driving you nuts! What (if any) reasons are they giving you for this?

41 posted on 10/23/2009 5:02:44 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: FromLori
Sorry Lori.

I missed the fact that you had already posted this article and posted it myself. Here is a link to the same article that was posted by me.

Possible Credit Dislocation: Be Warned

42 posted on 10/23/2009 9:17:28 PM PDT by blam
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To: FromLori
"... as this analysis is based on nothing more than observation of behavior by market participants that all point toward their foreknowledge of an event that might happen in the reasonably-near future and is not, at present, backed up with actual significant credit-spread widening or other objective criteria."

Think about what you do and be careful.

This looks like a very speculative forecast in IMO. (He's making forecasts based on what he thinks someone else is thinking?)

43 posted on 10/23/2009 9:28:27 PM PDT by blam
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To: AlmaKing

Present yourself to the lender as an illegal alien with no verifiable income and a criminal record in your country of origen.

Make sure they know that you’ve contacted ACORN to register to vote (as many times as possible) and you’ll be approved post haste.

It might also help if you announced your plans to run a brothel/meth lab out of your residence.


44 posted on 10/23/2009 9:35:44 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Arizona Carolyn
That is they way it is in Las Vegas. The banks are putting a few on the market each month. There are 2 reasons. One is a Crash, which in our market really wouldn't happen. We have 10-20 investors/buyers for most all the REO's on the market right now. The banks are taking highest and best and up until about a month ago, cash ruled.

So putting a small amount out does drive up the price. The problem is, unless it is a cash sale and the buyer is will ing to forego the appraisal, the homes are not appraising at the inflated over bids.

In some neighborhoods, the banks are now only take offers that people are going to move into, and not rent out.

IN other situations, the bank lets the deal fall through, because they won't lower to the appraisal price, which was more than likely the listed price.

I think it is costing the bank something like .005% every month they don't sell these homes.

We get calls all day long from people seeing the foreclosures in neighborhoods with the yellow signs on them that the banks haven't put on the market. There are a bunch!

In our area, it would serve the banks better just to get them out there and let people buy them now, before the homeless move in or the vandals destroy them!

I showed a house a few weeks ago, a short sale,that was very nice,about 2300sq ft with a pool nice gated neighborhood. It was priced at $225k.

I went back the other day and "someone" had taken all the copper pipe , along with the toilets sinks built in oven, and there were holes in all the walls. It was very sad!

I guess the owners saw they weren't going to be able to short it and just took anything of value!

45 posted on 10/23/2009 9:35:50 PM PDT by Repub4bush (GopBriefingRoom.com)
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To: FromLori

“if you are dependent on credit access and these anecdotes are in fact indicative of actual knowledge of an impending lock-up you are at grave financial risk.”

People like that should be wiped out!!!!

Bring back thq 18% prime rate!!!!


46 posted on 10/23/2009 9:37:04 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: FromLori

“That is most likely because of mark to market that way they do not have to show the crap on their books and if they did show it many of them would be shut down.”

Foreclosed property isn’t carried on their books as an asset, it isn’t carried anywhere, it’s just there.

They can only hold it for 18 months.

One thing they can do is sell thr forclosures between themselves, bank to bank, and get another 18 months they can hold them.


47 posted on 10/23/2009 9:43:29 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Revelation 911

“we have a stellar rating and the rate is still going up “

If you pay your credit card bill every month why do you care what interest rate they charge?

I usually charge around $4,000/month on mine but pay it off as soon as the statement is available on line.

I have no idea what mine charges and don’t give a damn!

I’ve never paid interest for anything in my life including my airplane except for the mortgage on my first home that has been paid off for over 20 years.


48 posted on 10/23/2009 9:51:07 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Leisler

“I asked him what he has been doing this last year with his part of the money and he said buying farms, mineral rights in western Canada.”

Funny since Canadian money has been buying mining properties here and in Mexico for the last 30 years.

A friend of mine sold 12 silver claims in New Mexico to a canadian mining company 25 years ago.


49 posted on 10/23/2009 9:55:37 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: FromLori
Nouriel Roubini: Big Crash Coming
50 posted on 10/23/2009 10:10:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: Repub4bush

What a mess... and the poor neighbors who try to actually keep their homes and once lived in a nicely kept neighborhood... we’ve been fairly lucky over here that the snowbirds from Canada keep buying up the properties and they usually pay to keep them up when they are gone in the summer.


51 posted on 10/23/2009 10:48:22 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: dalereed

That was a different Canada and a different America ago.


52 posted on 10/24/2009 3:35:00 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: dalereed

principle

likewise - we pay ours off every month


53 posted on 10/24/2009 7:28:53 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: hoosier hick

with enough cash the banks can repay their tarp money. and the exec’s can get their bonuses


54 posted on 10/24/2009 9:45:31 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: blam

lol It doesn’t bother me a bit. True he is speaking without too much back up.


55 posted on 10/24/2009 10:08:57 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: WashingtonSource
Is he serious? I don’t think the Citicorp credit card letters have gone out to all customers, for starters

Just got my Citicard letter today. Apparently they still like me because they are upping it to 26.99 instead of up to 29.99. I'll be reassesing the situation Monday.

56 posted on 10/24/2009 11:11:32 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Doug Hoffman for Congress NY-23)
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To: NeoCaveman

Good grief. That’s loan sharking by any measure. This is the result of tampering by Congress with its stupid credit card bill, more than anything else. To hell with Barney Frank and all the other G-D Communists. And, might I add, Citicorp has for decades been run by a series of doofuses. It should have been shut down in the early 1990s when it was already technically insolvent.


57 posted on 10/24/2009 1:23:45 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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