Posted on 10/23/2009 6:28:46 AM PDT by pansgold
HERE IS AN EMAIL JUST SENT TO PELOSI ABOUT HER LACK OF VOTES FOR THE GUMMIT OPTION AND HER "OPT OUT" PLAN requiring states to "PROVE" to her satisfaction the state has another plan SHE judges to be acceptable or they can't opt out of her plan.
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MA_DAMN SPEAKER,
ENOUGH! HOW ABOUT AN "OPT-IN"? WHY SHOULD THE STATES DO A DAMN THING AND JUMP THROUGH YOUR CIRCUS HOOP AND "PROVE" ANYTHING TO OPT OUT?
IT'S TIME YOU AND HARRY REID START LOOKING FOR WORK. IF YOU SURVIVE THE NEXT PRIMARY AND GET RE-ELECTED, THE REPUBLICAN SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE WILL LET YOU WATCH AS YOUR SOCIALIST DREAM IS DISMANTLED.
YOUR PROBLEM... YOU FORGOT WHAT THE WORD REPRESENT MEANS.
YOU AND HARRY REED ARE FINISHED IN POLITICS. GO BACK TO STOMPING GRAPES AND HARRY CAN GO BACK TO LAND DEALS.
Let her know what you think.
http://speaker.house.gov/contact/
Feel better?..................
Redstate posted last night no way she had the votes, listed coalitions against it.
cleaner
I hope the “Blue Dog Democrats” have the will to stop this madness.
There was a time not to many years ago when a politician actually voted the will of the majority of their constituents.
The only exceptions to “vote their conscience” was:
1.) The constituents were equally divided
2.) The constituent majority wanted was illegal
3.) Vote is based on information that was not made public
Better (and cheaper) than going to a psychologist. Sometimes you just have to vent! Especially in these times.
You should have mentioned that the CBO had a different opinion on the constitutionality of medical insurance mandates during Clinton administration.
The sharks are circling because they smell the blood in the water on Obamacare. The WH is living in mortal fear of the left and on issues such as Obamacare which is losing support on a daily basis, on Afghanistan which they seem they cannot make any decision on at all, on Russia and Iran, on North Korea, on Pakistan, on dealing with Dick Cheney, and on how to treat Fox News and many other issues. This WH and Obummer administration is so living in fear of everything and everybody, left and right and independent that they are coming apart at the seams and their plummeting poll numbers certainly reflect those fears. I believe their is a great deal of panic behind those WH doors.
Those “blue dogs” SHOULD be standing up and saying they took an oath to the Constitution, NOT to any party or President. But I doubt they have the principles to do that.
Nancy Pelosi’s and her husbands link to Starkist and American Samoa should be front page news next year when she runs for re-election. She personally exempted American Samoa from the minimum wage increase in 2007, giving her husbands investment in Starist a boost as they became more competitive.
I completely agree. It shows how truly inept they are. The fact that we have such amateurs running our country scares me to death. I just hope we can survive another 3 years.
I’m sure I’ll be on the “watch list” for being in opposition and disrespectful.
You know how the Demo’s work. Just like demonizing FOX NEWS and trashing the First Amendment and discriminating against FOX and banning FOX from news events available to other news groups that tow the line.
I think the 0bama Administration is getting paranoid and stupid.
I loved the bit*h slap others gave the 0bama admin saying, no FOX NEWX no coverage by us.
I was surprised, but happy, to see that. I guess they are worried that a Republican President might try to shut them out in a little over 3 years.
Hope it helps but as I understand it they never read t he emails or letters sent to them. They do not care about the people they work for.
I actually believe the 0bama Admin has an arguement for the constitutionality of taking over health care in the preamble “...promote the general Welfare,...” which is a loophole big enough to drive a D11 CAT through.
I loved the video of Reid trying to put his arm around Pelosi and she backing away subtlely like he had the plague or something. Priceless.
but.... they can’t destroy my email address now that it’s part of public record.
IF YOU HAVE MACULAR DEGENERATION AND GLOUCOMA AS I DO, CAPS HELP.
I charge $50 an hour for Venting Fee.......................
fyi gidget7, in that you can include every person in the military since the oath says:
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
I never said...or heard...that one. Is it a National Guards oath?
Pelosi will be reelected, and it won’t even be close. Her district is left-wing. Pelosi as a minority in a Republican CONSERVATIVE congress, she can sit on the sidelines for the next 6 years after she’s reelected.
What needs to happen is the turncoats in the Republican ranks need to be primaried out or outright defeated at election time. Truthfully I’d rather see a Democrat seated and know what I have than have a Republican like Snowe or a fence sitter.
Let me see yer badge... you do need a stinking badge to be the spell cop around here.
Six years?
The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States...
From your profile: It’s time schools teach the meaning of the Bill of Rights and the Amendments.
I assume you'd support teaching the entire Constitution?
Forgive me if I am wrong, but when I see someone posting ignorant comments full of spelling, grammatical and technical errors, my troll detector goes off.
No, but their staffs do, and add up the pros and cons and report the numbers back to their bosses.
Style points and clever new arguments are not important. One polite, direct and clearly worded sentence will do just fine. Beyond that, you are wasting your time.
No, but their staffs do, and add up the pros and cons and report the numbers back to their bosses.
Style points and clever new arguments are not important. One polite, direct and clearly worded sentence will do just fine. Beyond that, you are wasting your time.
will United States Code do?
10 USC
(a) Enlistment Oath.— Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
“I, XXXXXXXXXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
(b) Who May Administer.— The oath may be taken before the President, the Vice-President, the Secretary of Defense, any commissioned officer, or any other person designated under regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Defense
I stand corrected. House is 2 and senate is 6
I'm well aware of the oath. I took and gave it many times over my 28 year career.
The oath you previously posted swore to the state. I had never heard that version. I looked it up and it is a National Guard oath.
I assume you never took the oath or you would have known what the words meant.
all the oaths have it. see the day wasn’t a total waste. you learned something.
No, all of the oaths do not have an oath to the state. Look at the USC that you posted above.
There, you learned something.
Have another drink while I find the ignore button
You are an ignorant, belligerent troll.
The FR corollary to Murhpy's Law: After noting another poster's typo, you WILL make a typo yourself.
waste = was
Federal law requires everyone who enlists or re-enlists in the Armed Forces of the United States to take the enlistment oath. The oath of enlistment into the United States Armed Forces is administered by any commissioned officer to any person enlisting or re-enlisting for a term of service into any branch of the military. The officer asks the person, or persons, to raise their right hand and repeat the oath after him. The oath is traditionally performed in front of the United States Flag and other flags, such as the state flag, military branch flag, and unit guidon may be present.
In the Armed Forces EXCEPT the National Guard (Army or Air)
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
In the National Guard (Army or Air)
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (STATE NAME) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.
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YES all the oaths do have it. SEE ABOVE^
To: gidget7
fyi gidget7, in that you can include every person in the military since the oath says:
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
Now what oath does NOT contain those words AS POSTED? Don’t spin off on a new topic about the NG and “state name” because that was not the topic.
ps: before you gave your 2 cents you should have read gidget7’s post slower.
“To: pansgold
Those “blue dogs” SHOULD be standing up and saying they took an oath to the Constitution, NOT to any party or President. But I doubt they have the principles to do that.”
“...took an oath to the Constitution...” was what we were talking about.
No, they don't. See your own reference. Only the National Guard swears to the state.
And, as I said before, I need no lesson on military oaths. I said my first on in 1981. I took and gave the oath many times over the following 28 years.
The government ruling class don’t read email from tax payer slaves.
Madame Pelosi could actually be the real legitimate POTUS if the Constitution was enforced, Biden cannot be VEEP because he was nominated by Obama who is ineligible.
Wouldn’t this be history?
maybe she already knows this and is using Obama as a stage puppet....
s l o w e r t h i s t i m e.
The topic gidget7 and I were discussing was the oath to support the Constitution and had NOTHING to do with the state..
got it now?
It looks like you couldn't find the ignore button. Or, you have no self discipline. Either way, your errors are here for all to read.
Now, where is that "ignore" buttton...
I realize that, as do most of the Military and Veterans. It is CONGRESS that does not realize it.
Not really! Promote does not mean mandate. If they were to “recommend” without penalty, that people purchase medical insurance, THAT would be constitutional.
I wish we had the luxury to do that, but Obama doesnt need more D's at this point. There needs to be a complete rejection of Zero in the midterm election as possible, and if we can't get C's then a few R's can fill out the numbers till they can be replaced. This midterm needs to be a total landslide for Conservatism. Then the ethics violations can be dealt with and let the chips fall where they may; D's and R's alike. Clean house. A new Conservative party can rise from the ashes.
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