Posted on 10/22/2009 6:54:27 PM PDT by Sergeant Tim
Some of those musicians -- Nine Inch Nails and Rage Against the Machine -- say their music has been played at ear-splitting level to torment terror suspects and coerce confessions at the detention facility. Other petitioners want to know whether their works have been used in such capacity, including R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Jackson Browne and Billy Bragg. "The fact that music I helped create was used in crimes against humanity sickens me," said Tom Morello, former lead guitarist for Rage Against the Machine, an industrial rock band whose song "March of the Pigs" has been linked to torture tactics at the detention facility at the U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. "We need to end torture and close Guantanamo now," Mr. Morello said. Based on interviews and declassified documents, a spokeswoman with the National Security Archives says acts whose music is known to have been used covers the musical gamut -- from AC/DC to the Barney theme song, Marilyn Manson to Neil Diamond, Tupac Shakur to Sesame Street, Limp Bizkit to Christina Aguilera. And the Bee Gees. ... But Debra Burlingame, a director with the national security policy group Keep America Safe, called the musicians' effort "pathetic." "This is a preview of what the Gitmo defense attorneys are going to do with these hard-core terrorists in federal court. This torture narrative will completely eclipse justice for the 3,000 victims," said Mrs. Burlingame, whose brother was a pilot killed the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. ... "It's almost laughable to think that heavy metal bands like Nine Inch Nails and Rage Against the Machine have a moral authority on national security issues," Mrs. Burlingame said. "They're worried about torture of hard-core terrorists? This is really something I would expect to read in the Onion."
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Just my opinion of course.
If they were serious about torture they would play Barry Manilow.
My bad (typo). Audrey Hudson is the reporter.
And, no joke the list include the Meow Mix jingle. I can’t believe that they’ve compromised the sanctity of the meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, bit with something as petty as national security. Bastards!
Dear Artists,
F.O.
Rage Against The Machine are a bunch of angry Marxist douchebags. They openly supported violent 3rd world Marxist groups like Shining Path in South America. So they don’t have any credibility here. In fact, it’s kind of delicious that their music was used to torment America’s enemies.
Shouldn’t there be a lot more quotes around the words “artists”, “music” and “work” in this article?
“The fact that music I helped create was used in crimes against humanity sickens me,” said Tom Morello, former lead guitarist for Rage Against the Machine,
LOL. He really thinks he created music? Oh my!
Music?? There hasn’t been any real music put out since the early 80’s. Since then 98% of what is today called music is just LOUD noise.
They torture me with their whining. They should feel happy that someone a use for their noise.
Actually, the “artists” may have a point here. Making anyone listen to Rage Against the Machine, at any volume, is stretching the limits of human cruelty. I mean....where do we draw the line?
You’re wrong but if you’re referring to the rock genre you’re right. Personally, I haven’t listened to rock in ages (get it?)
While nine inch nails and rage against the... elude me...
Terrorists would have quickly submitted to questioning with a relentless assault of “Sweet Caroline...bah bah bah...Good times never seem so good...”
LOL... we ought to make them listen to Barbra Striesand “Evergreen” over and over again. They’d probably start saying “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America...”
You know girls, if you’re in such a snit that your product was used correctly, perhaps you should stage a protest somewhere.
Yeah, that’ll make a difference.
I regret that I don’t play good enough to be this bad.
or should that be...
I regret that I don’t play bad enough to be this good.
What do they expect the interrogators to play, Mozart?
Am I only one on FR who LIKES Rage Against The Machine?!
We can use the music any damn way we want. We bought the stinkin’ album. We can use it for whatever we want.
Idiots.
The original plan had been to use Celine Dion singing the theme song from the Barney TV program, but Pentagon lawyers shot that down saying it would be a crime against hunanity.
The original plan had been to use Celine Dion singing the theme song from the Barney TV program, but Pentagon lawyers shot that down saying it would be a crime against humanity.
I think she's confusing "heavy metal" with "pop". The Metal Archives lists over 70,000 heavy metal bands in the world. These bands are not among them. After listening to a couple sound samples at Amazon, I can see why.
Rage Against the Machine, REM (Michael Stipe, specifically), Billy Bragg (and I’ll throw in avowed marxist country singer Steve Earle) are marxists, plain and simple. Marxists support jihadists when they are against America, England and Israel - period.
Now, we should charge these groups and others listed, with “crimes against humanity” for the sound of their music, the lousy lyrics, smelling like, well, it won’t be Teen Spirit, and just being noisy and out of tune.
For those of us WW2/Baby Boomers who were raised on both Classical Music (Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Taichovsky (sp), and later Aaron Copland, Rogers & Hammerstein & Hart, Caruso, and Van Cliburn) and Rock N Roll (Elvis, Ricky Nelson, Everly Brothers, Chuck Berry, Etta James, Marvelettes, Supremes, (Linda Scott - look her up, oh unknowing ones), Beach Boys, Chubby Checker, etc, we know real music when we hear it, and RAGE etc isn’t it.
Jackson Browne has been “Running on Empty” since the 70’s, and does Pearl Jam go with toast? Marilyn Manson - WTF? Tupac Shukar, the dead punk son of cop-killing communist Maxine Chesimard. Who gives a damn about him?
The Barney Theme is the ultimate torture song, along with “Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka-Dotted Bikinis” (see the movie “One,Two, Three” where the East German police used it to torture a confession out of fellow believer Horst Buckholz).
AC/DC rocks, man!
Neil Diamond — too good for jihadists
The National Security Archives - a leftist anti-intelligence organization posing as a legitimate research/archives. I was around at their creation and it smelled Left then.
The National Campaign to Close Guantanamo - led by ex Rep. Tom Andrews, a veteran far-leftist from New England. A real loser of a person if you check his record. Why any generals of any standing would want to sign onto this group is beyond me, but patriotisn isn’t what it used to be.
As to their fallacious claim that Gitmo “endangers the lives of American servicemen”, bullhocky. Al Qaeda, jihadists and their American supporters endanger the lives of our service personnel.
Damned few of our soldiers captured in Iraq came back alive. Many were tortured and executed. No Geneva Accords rights for them. The enemy doesn’t recognize the GA anyway so why put up a smokescreen for their barbarism. The two generals listed in this Campaign, Gard and Johns are either backbencher military, or totally divorced from reality (as in out of their freling minds).
Don’t give these so-called musicians, researchers, and retired military guys any legitimacy. They don’t deserve it.
MadMax - reincarnated after cardiac arrest- Nam journalist 1970. Father of one of the first American soldiers into Iraq in the early hours of OIF.
You either stand by America and defend her, or get the hell out of the way before we roll over you. The Silent Majority is BACK and it has a helluva lot of new combat veterans who are speaking up for their country.
The irony that Jackson Browne’s music is being used to get Islamic terrorists to talk
Browne is a noted woman-abuser (beat up Darryl Hannah a few years ago)...so the women-hating Muslims should feel at home with Browne...maybe they can play some Chris Brown, while they are at it
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