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Federal Reserve unveils proposal that would police banks' pay policies for the first time
Star Tribune ^ | 10/22/2009 | JEANNINE AVERSA

Posted on 10/22/2009 11:05:41 AM PDT by EBH

WASHINGTON - The Federal Reserve for the first time would police banks' pay policies to ensure they don't encourage employees to take reckless gambles like those that contributed to the financial crisis, according to a proposal unveiled Thursday.

Unlike a Treasury plan to slash pay at certain companies that were bailed out with large sums of taxpayer money, the Fed proposal would cover thousands of banks, including many that never received a bailout.

The Fed would not actually set compensation. Instead, the central bank would review — and could veto — pay policies that could cause too much risk-taking by executives, traders or loan officers

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


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Yeah...it was just the TARP guys.
1 posted on 10/22/2009 11:05:42 AM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

Hey, I’ve got a better idea—if you take big risks in business and you lose then your business goes under.


2 posted on 10/22/2009 11:09:28 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: randog

The more and more I see where this road leads, the more I think the “crash” last year should have been allowed to happen.

Now they are going to regulate companies that did not take bailout funds. WTF!

This is Fascism.


3 posted on 10/22/2009 11:12:55 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: EBH

At some point, migration out of the country may be a realistic option for many of us.


4 posted on 10/22/2009 11:14:24 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DonaldC

For those with international connections the flow of assets has already begun.


5 posted on 10/22/2009 11:18:58 AM PDT by Rebelbase (This is the time of year when ACORNS fall.)
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To: DonaldC

Get yourself some money set up outside the country. For many by the time they up and leave it will be too late.

Regulate pay in the banking industry.

If they do this, the market will cease to function.

Directive 10-289 is coming.


6 posted on 10/22/2009 11:19:52 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: EBH

Soon they will need every citizen working for the govt. keeping an eye out for everyone and everything.


7 posted on 10/22/2009 11:21:29 AM PDT by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: EBH

The scumbags running the operations let things get run into the ground and then allowed themselves to be bent over the bench and punked bloody by a gov buyout.

So, screw em. Put the entire lot on minimum wage.

Better yet, why half-step? The banks are gov owned, why not form up a Banking Branch of the US military? Draft the suckers, put them under martial law, and shoot anyone who shows up late for work, or doesn’t keep up with whatever quota assigned him/her.

Those who fail to denounce their weekly quota of fellow workers, family members, friends, and other associates, prior to each Tuesday’s Workers’ Morale Meeting, should also be considered for public execution, or expulsion to a slave labor camp for the short remainder of their life.


8 posted on 10/22/2009 11:23:17 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

Ahhh....

You do realize this is regarding banks that did not take bailouts?


9 posted on 10/22/2009 11:25:45 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: EBH

The Socialist Juggarnaut continues without a shot being fired.


10 posted on 10/22/2009 11:26:08 AM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin's mob minion - Mob Name: Hatman the Hitman)
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To: EBH

Fascism by definition.


11 posted on 10/22/2009 11:28:14 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Grimmy

Try on post #45

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2367779/posts?page=45#45


12 posted on 10/22/2009 11:28:34 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: Grimmy
I never thought I would ever see anyone on the forum advocating the government taking control of setting salaries for any private enterprise. You must remember if they can do it to someone else today, they will do it to you tomorrow.

Does anyone, besides me, remember the price and wage controls during the Nixon administrations? Didn't work. By the time Jimmah Cartah go through with us, interest was a 18% and we were told it could never come down. Then Ronald Reagan happened.

I personally do not want the government involve in salaries or bonuses of private industries. I also do not want the government bailing out any private industry whatsoever.

13 posted on 10/22/2009 11:29:53 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: w1andsodidwe

LOL.

Did you also take me to mean that I advocate militarizing the banking industry, firing squads, slave labor and forced political morale meetings?


14 posted on 10/22/2009 11:32:41 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: DonaldC

The problem is, to where? Canada? They don’t like guns and it’s too damned cold. South America has decent skiing, plenty of world class futbol, and good nightlife, but you run the risk of being abducted or killed by a cartel.

Screw England!

China, no thanks.

Iraq? To hot and dry.

Russia? Barf, again, too damned cold.

I can’t afford to purchase a private island, else, I’d already be OUT of the USA!


15 posted on 10/22/2009 11:37:04 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("MOLON LABE")
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To: EBH

Hubby keeps asking the idiots at work who think this is a good idea how they will feel when the government comes in and tells them they are making too much money? All of a sudden they don’t like that idea!


16 posted on 10/22/2009 11:38:38 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: w1andsodidwe

‘The Federal Reserve for the first time would police banks’ pay policies’

Are you saying the Federal Reserve (which is NOT our Federal Government), has done this before?


17 posted on 10/22/2009 11:39:37 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: EBH

Well, we have had a minimum wage for decades, I suppose the next step is a maximum wage with the two gradually converging over time.

I’m thinking, if you play professional sports, they are looking at you too.


18 posted on 10/22/2009 11:45:50 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: EBH
For all those who believe that the Federal Reserve is a private system...

Oh, but those banks are "members"!

19 posted on 10/22/2009 11:50:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Oh, but those banks are “members”!

Doesn’t mean they have the right to dictate pay.


20 posted on 10/22/2009 11:52:20 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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Yet, Washington’s crooks won’t even discuss THEIR pay, and why it can never seem to get cut?

They’ll never stop with banks.


21 posted on 10/22/2009 11:52:49 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: EBH
Doesn’t mean they have the right to dictate pay.

Did I really need a sarcasm tag?

22 posted on 10/22/2009 11:54:07 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: EBH

Obama is getting more Nixonian everyday. Nixon froze everybody’s wages in 1970 something.


23 posted on 10/22/2009 11:58:15 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: fightinbluhen51
"The problem is, to where? Canada? They don?t like guns and it?s too damned cold.

South America has decent skiing, plenty of world class futbol, and good nightlife, but you run the risk of being abducted or killed by a cartel.

Screw England!

China, no thanks.

Iraq? To hot and dry.

Russia? Barf, again, too damned cold.

I can?t afford to purchase a private island, else, I?d already be OUT of the USA!"

Sounds like time for another of those discussions of where it is safe to transfer assets and to relocate. Some people have advocated Panama, but it uses the USD as a currency so a dollar collapse would hit them too. What about Australia or Chile which has managed to avoid going into debt during the world financial crisis? or what about ...?

24 posted on 10/22/2009 11:59:48 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: DonaldC

To where?


25 posted on 10/22/2009 11:59:57 AM PDT by RockinRight (The liberals' idea of tax relief is to give everyone a tube of K-Y Jelly.)
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To: Carry_Okie

It seems today on these topics ...one might consider adding it. LOL.


26 posted on 10/22/2009 12:00:10 PM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: Truth29

Even if I wanted to, which I don’t yet...where would I go, and what would I do there (workwise...?)


27 posted on 10/22/2009 12:03:18 PM PDT by RockinRight (The liberals' idea of tax relief is to give everyone a tube of K-Y Jelly.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Now that it has started, it is over.

The Czar, shadow government, is taking action to take over. The dictatorship has truly begun. We are moving away from that soft tyranny...


28 posted on 10/22/2009 12:03:54 PM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: staytrue
I’m thinking, if you play professional sports, they are looking at you too.

OH no, they are a protected class. If you remember during Clinton's admin they made the law that private companies could not take as a business expense any salary over 1 million, however sports teams and Hollywood were exempted.

29 posted on 10/22/2009 12:04:35 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: EBH

Obongo is *owned* by the Federal Reserve, the most corrupt organization on earth.


30 posted on 10/22/2009 12:06:34 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: RGSpincich
Obama is getting more Nixonian everyday. Nixon froze everybody’s wages in 1970 something.

Didn't FDR do likewise during WWII? IIRC, wages were frozen and businesses got around it by offering "benefits packages"...?

31 posted on 10/22/2009 12:11:48 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: EBH

“Unlike a Treasury plan to slash pay at certain companies that were bailed out...”

Czar Feinberg and the Treasury are one in the same?


32 posted on 10/22/2009 12:12:47 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Sarah Palin - Supports a "path to citizenship" for illegal aliens. "path to citizenship" IS AMNESTY)
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To: randog

Which this time...the government is offering you the benefit package.


33 posted on 10/22/2009 12:13:08 PM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: EBH

“You do realize this is regarding banks that did not take bailouts?”

I must have missed that too....I only skimmed that it was for those that DID take the bailouts???


34 posted on 10/22/2009 12:15:04 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Sarah Palin - Supports a "path to citizenship" for illegal aliens. "path to citizenship" IS AMNESTY)
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To: DonaldC

I hear Chile is actually a decent place to live now...


35 posted on 10/22/2009 12:15:36 PM PDT by henkster (0bamanomics: The "Final Solution" to America's "Prosperity Question.")
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To: EBH

Don’t you wish you would wake up and find out it’s all a bad dream!

There seems to be a never ending series of government and quasi government interventions to fix the problems created by pre-existing interventions.


36 posted on 10/22/2009 12:16:26 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: EBH
"Unlike a Treasury plan to slash pay at certain companies that were bailed out with large sums of taxpayer money, the Fed proposal would cover thousands of banks, including many that never received a bailout."

Can we impeach him yet??

37 posted on 10/22/2009 12:16:30 PM PDT by cake_crumb (86 44! (Impeach Obama!))
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To: Kimberly GG

The government is also pursuing a separate revamping of financial-sector rules that could change industry compensation practices more broadly. For instance, the Federal Reserve is considering rules that would curb banks’ ability to pay employees in a way that would threaten the “safety and soundness” of the bank.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124416737421887739.html

JUNE 5, 2009


38 posted on 10/22/2009 12:17:53 PM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: EBH
Directive 10-289:
  1. All workers are bound to their jobs and can neither leave nor be fired under penalty of one year in prison. The Unification Board, reporting to the Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources, possesses judicial authority. All citizens upon turning 21 must register with the Unification Board which will assign them jobs in the best interests of the nation.
  2. All businesses must remain in operation and cannot close under penalty of nationalization and confiscation of property.
  3. All patents and copyrights are to be turned over to the government by the use of “voluntary” Gift Certificates. The Unification Board will license those processes to all applicants to eliminate monopolies. All brand names and private trademarks are abolished.
  4. No new inventions shall be produced or invented. The Patent Office is suspended.
  5. All business establishments will produce the same amount every year as they did in the baseline known as the Yardstick Year, to be enforced by the Unification Board.
  6. All citizens must purchase the same amount of goods every year as they did in the Yardstick Year, to be enforced by the Unification Board.
  7. All wages and prices are frozen.
  8. All cases arising from this directive are to be decided by the Unification Board.

39 posted on 10/22/2009 12:18:19 PM PDT by Publius (Conservatives aren't always right. We're just right most of the time.)
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To: Kimberly GG

No, this is something different from the the TARP group.

This is regulating pay at private banks. Banks that never took TARP, banks that were never forced or coerced into TARP.


40 posted on 10/22/2009 12:20:15 PM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: RGSpincich

Somebody on Fox, who was it... last night was talking about how every time emmanual and axlerod come out they morph into haldemann and erlichmann right before his eyes. There’s a lot of truth to that. OK, who else is playing a part here? Dumb Joe plays a pretty mean Spiro Agnew, I gotta say, but there has to be a Chuck Colson and a G. Gordon Liddy.


41 posted on 10/22/2009 12:21:02 PM PDT by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: w1andsodidwe

“Does anyone, besides me, remember the price and wage controls during the Nixon administrations?”

Yes, I remember it very well. I was the head of HR (and thus pay scales) for a medium-sized company that had non-union and union employees (5 different contracts to administer) and it was a daily nightmare!

We had many, many meetings, long into the night, trying to figure out how to deal with the realities of union-contract-mandated wage scale progressions (tied to longevity) when the government had just told us not to increase salaries.

Furthermore, we had to figure in the value of the benefits plans (which varied from employee group to employee group).

It wreaked havoc on all fronts and I was among those on the “front line”. I’ll never forget the very real impact on everyone. I later went on to own my own small business and forever more kept in mind the reality of what can happen.

I have said for over three decades that I can envision the day when the government will require that every company hire a set number of employees based on the gross sales of the company. I see that day coming. It is the “logical” outcome of the “we must take care of everyone” philosophy.


42 posted on 10/22/2009 12:29:07 PM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: fightinbluhen51

“...risk of being abducted or killed by a cartel.”

NOT IN CHILE!


43 posted on 10/22/2009 12:32:14 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: EBH
Congressman Paul appears to be correct: the best course probably is to end the Federal Reserve system.

This is gross overreaching by the Fed with regard to its regulatory powers.

44 posted on 10/22/2009 12:38:21 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: EBH

Welcome to Obama’s NWO unless he is impeached by Dec. 7th.


45 posted on 10/22/2009 12:51:32 PM PDT by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: WellyP

Can you own guns there? I know they have some good skiing! Can always escape somewhere a bit warmer too.


46 posted on 10/22/2009 1:04:11 PM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("MOLON LABE")
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To: randog

“Hey, I’ve got a better idea—if you take big risks in business and you lose then your business goes under.”

What is this weird system of which you speak? I’ve never heard of such a thing: continued existence and success dependent upon performance. Where did you come up with it?


47 posted on 10/22/2009 1:08:02 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: EBH

The Federal Reserve, a private corporation, is ‘policing’ banks?


48 posted on 10/22/2009 1:09:12 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: Freddd

“Are you saying the Federal Reserve (which is NOT our Federal Government)”

Oh, yes it is. It is a branch of the federal government with little oversight and a whole lot of power. Just because it’s not in the Constitution doesn’t mean it’s not part of the federal government.


49 posted on 10/22/2009 1:10:58 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: EBH

I hate to offend the wobbly-kneed conservatives here, but:

COMMUNISTS ARE STEALING YOUR COUNTRY!


50 posted on 10/22/2009 1:11:21 PM PDT by Boucheau
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