BULLETIN -- REPORT: HUNDREDS OF ANTI-FASCIST PROTESTERS BREAK INTO THE BBC.

BNO News ^ | 10/22/2009 | BNO News

[gura]

Headline only, waiting on full article.

Protesters have been gathering outside BBC Headquarters all day: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/22/question-time-protest, "Swelling number of protesters demonstrating against BNP leader Nick Griffin's appearance on show".

[Red Badger]

HELLO, WHAT’S ALL THIS ABOUT THEN?..........

[GeronL]

anti-fascist is usually their code for Muslims.

[thethirddegree]

I would not be surprised to see a similar uprising against the White House.

[Blood of Tyrants]

I give up. Are the protesters for or against more government involvement?

[mnehring]

Protesting BNP, radical racist party there.

[gura]

[2banana]

Usually with the MSM - ANTI-FASCIST PROTESTERS equals marxists and communists protesting against people who want less government and less taxes.

[mnehring]

anti-fascist is usually their code for Muslims

Not in this case, the BNP are genuine fascist(unapologetic about it) freaks.

[youturn]

BUMP

[abb]

It’s what you get when government controls the distribution of information.

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-43353420091022

UK’s BBC defends TV platform for right-wing BNP
Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:15pm IST

By Keith Weir

LONDON (Reuters) - The BBC defended its decision to allow the leader of the right-wing British National Party (BNP) to appear on a flagship current affairs programme on Thursday, despite criticism from anti-racism groups and politicians.

Anti-racism groups were planning protests against the invitation to BNP leader Nick Griffin at the BBC’s headquarters in west London throughout the day and two senior government ministers have also criticised the appearance.

Mark Thompson, director-general of the publicly funded BBC, said the invitation to appear on the Question Time show was based on the level of support the BNP gained in the European and local elections.

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[raccoonradio]

Am reminded of the Monty Python sketch where John Cleese plays a BBC “newsreader”, Michael Queen. He starts his newscast and it goes on without him noticing that gunmen have broken in and kidnapped him, and his desk, and both are put into a truck which speeds along the “motorways”. At one point a woman is listening to a small transistor radio to his broadcast and looks up in surprise, as she sees the newsreader, at his desk, in the back of the truck (lorry,
as the Brits say) going by her.

Finally he gets to the “sport” results and weather and the newsreader, and his desk, are dumped off a pier into the water. “And that is the end of the news.”

[mnehring]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

[GeronL]

I didn’t say they weren’t racist in the BNP, I said those coming out to violent attack them for their views are usually Islamic fascists

[dfwgator]

anti-fascist is usually their code for Muslims.

Or Communists.

I mean I hate fascism as much as anyone, but people that go around defining themselves as "anti-fascist" generally are just the other side of the same coin.

[stockpirate]

How’s that no firearms working out for the Brits?

[gura]

"According to its constitution, the BNP is "committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent the overwhelmingly white makeup of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948".[18] The BNP proposes "firm but voluntary incentives for immigrants and their descendants to return home".[19] The party also advocates the repeal of all anti-discrimination legislation, and restricts party membership to "indigenous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of ‘Indigenous Caucasian’". The BNP also accepts white immigrants that are assimilated into one of those ethnicities.[18] The BNP asserts that there are biological racial differences that determine the behaviour and character of individuals of different races, although it claims that it does not regard whites as superior to other ethnic groups,[20] and that preference for one's own ethnicity is a part of human nature.[19] Historically the BNP (including Nick Griffin) was overtly anti-Semitic; in recent history the BNP has instead focused on Islam.[21]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

[mnehring]

I think everyone there hates the BNP, from the little old Tory church lady to a Muslim Imam to a Labor Manchester soccer player.

[stockpirate]

No anti-fascist is code for anti-muslim and anti-fascist. As in anti-government, the British government is fascist.

[gura]

This sound a lot like putting a pedophile in a position of debating school policy.

Oh wait, that’s just the Obama Administration.

[ClearCase_guy]

[PapaBear3625]

Protesting BNP, radical racist party there.

BNP is the only party willing to oppose Islamism.

[RushIsMyTeddyBear]

Love it. ;-)

[JLS]

The article sounds like one group of fascists protesting another group of fascists. And of course as we learned in WWII, one group of statists whether fascists or socialist has no problem slaughtering thousands of other groups of statists whether fascists or socialists. Statists are statists.

[abb]

I think everyone there hates the BNP, from the little old Tory church lady to a Muslim Imam to a Labor Manchester soccer player.

Not everyone does. They got over 6% of the vote last election.

The question here is who gets to control the microphone. The antidote to unpopular free speech is more free speech, not censorship.

[gura]

I mean I hate fascism as much as anyone, but people that go around defining themselves as "anti-fascist" generally are just the other side of the same coin.

Exactly. Wouldn't the only way to oppose fascism be to allow the BNP to express their beliefs without interruption or protest? Because suppression of free speech by a collective IS fascism.

[mnehring]

BNP also opposes “Jewishism”, and anything but whiteism. They are racist, anti-semetic freaks.

Not worth selling your soul for. That’s literally like aligning with David Duke’s freaks here because they oppose Shari’ah law.

[dfwgator]

“I don’t like the sound of ‘ese ‘ere ‘Boncentration Bamps.’”

[mnehring]

I’m just using my free speech to call it like it is. The protesters are using their free speech to drown out the BNP freaks. I don’t see people calling for government censorship, I see protesters going to the media to stop it, not the government.

[PapaBear3625]

I think everyone there hates the BNP, from the little old Tory church lady to a Muslim Imam to a Labor Manchester soccer player.

Yet, they've won a couple of seats on the European Parliament. So obviously not everybody hates them, at least in the privacy of the voting booth.

We're seeing the phenomenon where more and more people in Britain are getting concerned about rising Islamism, and losing their country to a rising tide of immigrants. If the more "legitimate" parties do not address their concern, then they WILL vote for a party which DOES, without regard for other considerations.

[mnehring]

So you are for suppressing the BNP’s opponent’s speech instead? The protests are speech just as much as the BNP being on the air is. These protesters aren’t going to the government demanding silence, they are protesting the media..

[mnehring]

...without regard for other considerations...

..and that's how you hand your freedom and soul over to those who are just as truly evil. It is the proverbial making a deal with the devil.

[RushIsMyTeddyBear]

Yep.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/gavinhewitt/2009/10/the_bnp_and_the_white_working.html

[abb]

I don’t see people calling for government censorship, I see protesters going to the media to stop it, not the government.

Then you're not paying attention.

The BBC is the government approved/operated/subsidized broadcasting agency in the UK. The protesters are leaning on the Beeb to shut off the BNP's access to broadcast. I may not like what the BNP or even David Duke has to say. But they can say what they please anywhere, anytime in the United States. And that's the way it SHOULD be.

[fullchroma]

That’s hilarious. I imagined the whole scene with Charlie (What ACORN scandal?) Gibson in place of Cleese.

[RushIsMyTeddyBear]

Here’s the story from the BBC of what happened:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8321157.stm

[mnehring]

But they can say what they please anywhere, anytime in the United States.

But this isn't the United States we are talking about- the UK has no First Amendment freedoms and, as you pointed out, the government controls the media. - thusly, you have to fight harder for your voice.

[PapaBear3625]

So you are for suppressing the BNP’s opponent’s speech instead?

Let the opposition protest as much as they want. But the title of this thread IS "HUNDREDS OF ANTI-FASCIST PROTESTERS BREAK INTO THE BBC", with the implication of the protesters using violent tactics to prevent the BNP from being heard.

The protesters can PROTEST all they want, as long as the form of protest does not involve using force to shut down the other side's ability to speak -- a tactic the Left prefers to use.

[dfwgator]

The BBC is the government approved/operated/subsidized broadcasting agency in the UK. The protesters are leaning on the Beeb to shut off the BNP's access to broadcast. I may not like what the BNP or even David Duke has to say. But they can say what they please anywhere, anytime in the United States. And that's the way it SHOULD be.

I suppose the difference is that with the BBC, since it is run by the government with money from the taxpayers, would you want your tax dollars to have these people on?

Now if it is a private television network, I would have no problem allowing these people to exercise their right to free speech. But if I'm paying for their airtime with my taxes, I might have a different view on that.

[raccoonradio]

Here it is, because EVERYTHING is on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb9mn6YeQMY

[raccoonradio]

Here it is, because EVERYTHING is on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb9mn6YeQMY

[PapaBear3625]

..and that's how you hand your freedom and soul over to those who are just as truly evil. It is the proverbial making a deal with the devil.

I would rather see the BNP gain control than a bunch of Islamists. Given a choice, I regard the Left and the Islamists as being more evil than the BNP.

This is the only way to get the "Conservatives" in the UK to actually start being conservative, namely the threat of being replaced.

[abb]

Principles of Individual Rights like free speech and private property owe no allegiance to political boundaries or to temporary occupants of an office. The BNP gets the microphone. Period.

Otherwise those who decide what is and isn’t “allowed” come after me next.

Or you.

[dfwgator]

The enemy of your enemy can still be your enemy.

[abb]

I suppose the difference is that with the BBC, since it is run by the government with money from the taxpayers, would you want your tax dollars to have these people on?.

Which is of course the problem with having government owned/operated means of information distribution.

[PapaBear3625]

and, as you pointed out, the government controls the media. - thusly, you have to fight harder for your voice

Right. The Left-wing, "anti-racist" Labour Party controls the government and thus the BBC. The Left's voice has no trouble being heard 24/7. This issue here is their attempt to SILENCE dissent from their agenda.

[Frantzie]

Yeah the BNP is the only party talking about Islamification of the UK. They must be evil.

[dfwgator]

Precisely!

[Frantzie]

The anti-facists and anti-racists in the UK are facists and racists.

[mnehring]

I would rather see the BNP gain control than a bunch of Islamists.

So then, step one, you see all the Islamists removed from the country. You are happy. Step two, suddenly, your Indian neighbor is deported. You are indifferent because you never really talked to him. Step three, your Jamacian neighbor is deported. Now you are getting kind of concerned because you liked watching football with him. Step four, you go to work one morning and find all your Jewish co-workers are gone.. now you are starting to worry..

..Step five, you get a knock at your door one morning from the heritage police checking on something they found in your ancestry...

You think this is extreme? It is EXACTLY what the BNP is calling for. As I said, it is selling your soul to the devil.