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Conservatives roar; GOP trembles
POLITICO ^ | October 22, 2009 | Jim VandeHei, Mike Allen

Posted on 10/22/2009 8:21:50 AM PDT by RogerFGay

Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities, according to interviews with GOP officials and operatives.

Congressional leaders talk in private of being boxed in by commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh — figures who are wildly popular with the conservative base but wildly controversial among other parts of the electorate, and who have proven records of making life miserable for senators and House members critical of their views or influence.

Some of the leading 2012 candidates are described by operatives as grappling with the same tension. The challenge is to tap into the richest source of energy in the party — the disgust of grass-roots conservative activists with President Barack Obama and their hunger for a full-throated attack on his agenda — without coming off to the broader public as cranky and extreme.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 10/22/2009 8:21:50 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

Dammit, GOP, grow a pair.


2 posted on 10/22/2009 8:22:36 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (President Obama got the Nobel Prize and my ass is still sitting in Afghanistan. Its not fair. - G.I.)
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To: RogerFGay

Meanwhile..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2368208/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2368318/posts


3 posted on 10/22/2009 8:23:59 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Uncle Miltie
The GOP had better tremble and wake up pretty damn soon.

Conservatism means what it says. The Republic is based on this. RINOS can leave now and good riddance

4 posted on 10/22/2009 8:24:07 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: xcamel

I searched before posting. The search engine doesn’t always get it right. I know that from experience.


5 posted on 10/22/2009 8:25:06 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

The obviously don’t “tremble” enough as far as I’m concerned.
Spineless with no intestinal fortitude or RINOs.....that’s them.
Like obongo says: “They do as they’re told.....”
Whadda bunch of whimps....
We need strong leadership!!!!


6 posted on 10/22/2009 8:25:35 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: Uncle Miltie

They have a pair - it’s just not a pair of what they need.


7 posted on 10/22/2009 8:25:49 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

This is an order from liberal media types to the GOP: stomp down on the conservatives. Can’t you shut those conservatives up and get them back in line?

The Politico has no idea.


8 posted on 10/22/2009 8:25:57 AM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: RogerFGay; Admin Moderator

Duplicate thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2368208/posts


9 posted on 10/22/2009 8:27:11 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: lgjhn23
Instead of appealing to the majority of American voters, the article speaks of addressing a broader public. Taking a hint from McCain's campaign, I'd guess that's an obscure tongue-in-cheek reference to Women for Hillary.
10 posted on 10/22/2009 8:28:02 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

What a shame! And for so long “party leaders” have been able to mumble a few conservative sentiments and then go on being “progressive.” What a shame!


11 posted on 10/22/2009 8:28:48 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: RogerFGay

Change the dropdown in the search to “Titles” and type in a SINGLE keyword from the title (I used “Conservatives”) - that always reveals a thread if it exists.


12 posted on 10/22/2009 8:29:17 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: VictoryGal; Admin Moderator

It’s been mentioned that it’s a duplicate thread. As I said below, I searched before posting. The search engine doesn’t always get it right. It’s particularly touchy about anything other than an alphabetic character. I’ve historically had problems finding articles with quotes and dashes and such. I suspect this time it could even have been the semi-colon.


13 posted on 10/22/2009 8:30:28 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities, according to interviews with GOP officials and operatives.

No, the GOP's chances are being wounded RINOs caving into Democrats like Olympia Snowe, Lindsay Graham and liberal Congressional candidates like New York's Dede Scozzafava.

14 posted on 10/22/2009 8:31:34 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: xcamel
Time for all RINOS to move out of the way or we Conservs will run em over!

Do you hear us, John McCain, Mr. Newt and all the rest of you idiots endorsing Democrat-lite candidates out there???

15 posted on 10/22/2009 8:34:08 AM PDT by moondoggie
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To: Ol' Sparky

Yep. Even the Republican Party’s complaints about Limbaugh and Beck sound like wimpy versions of the Democrat’s twisted nonsense.


16 posted on 10/22/2009 8:34:17 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
-- I suspect this time it could even have been the semi-colon. --

Someone above suggested that the search be done just with selected words from the title. I agree with that. If I find something interesting, and decide to post a thread, I use one or two words from the title and search TITLES, not KEYWORDS (the default search field).

Search for "conservatives roar" in TITLES, and voila, see the same thing posted three times, with the same title.

17 posted on 10/22/2009 8:38:02 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RogerFGay

Gee. One wonders if the GOP might actually start to get the idea that it is supposed to OPPOSE the demonRATs...

nahhhhhh


18 posted on 10/22/2009 8:39:12 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: 13Sisters76

They decided to go left of America for the sake of their own wealth and power. Now there’s about 75% of voters out there just hoping a real political party will step in to replace them.


19 posted on 10/22/2009 8:45:38 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

So, they haven’t notice obama’s numbers going down. And other dem numbers going down? It sure isn’t all the GOP’s doing. I just got another of their fundraising “surveys.” I hate those. Didn’t even open it. I usually put a critical message in and send it back, but they never catch on.


20 posted on 10/22/2009 8:45:39 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

So if the district goes to the Dems, they will get a liberal, high tax, union loving, ACORN supporting leftist. And this would be different than fat, dolt Scuzzafava how?

Basically, I guess, the GOP is selling us out so that Scuzzafava can eventually pull a Specter ( who was the limp Vermont geek that came out of the lefty closet years ago? ).


21 posted on 10/22/2009 8:45:43 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: Right Wing Assault

They’re not going to catch on.


22 posted on 10/22/2009 8:46:54 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

Maybe they should just shut up a minute and think.

Whose fault was the electoral disaster of 2006? It’s all very well to blame it on all those conservative voters who stayed home, but why did they stay home? Could it be something that We the Leaders of the Party did wrong? Could it possibly be that we kicked them in the face once too often?

And how about the electoral disaster of 2008? Could it have possibly been the same thing? Trying to push amnesty for illegal aliens down their throats? Trying to put a total loser on the Supreme Court because she was a personal friend? Backing people like Lincoln Chaffee, Arlen Specter, and Arnold Schwarzenneger instead of the more conservative and electable alternatives? Making an amnesty loving idiot Attorney General because he was a personal friend—and intending to shove him onto SCOTUS afterward, if he hadn’t gone down in flames through sheer incompetence?

Then stacking the primary process so we ended up with Loser Juan McCain as our candidate? Now they’re grooming Mitt Romney, no doubt, and practicing their proclamation: Vote for Mitt, or you’ll get four more years of Obama. Vote for the lesser evil!

Did it ever occur to them that we might want to vote for the good for a change, instead of the lesser evil?

Obama is now eminently defeatable. But not by Mitt Romney and a gang of pork-grubbing RINOs and DC operatives eager to perpetuate their control of a dying party.


23 posted on 10/22/2009 8:48:07 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: VictoryGal
Change the dropdown in the search to “Titles” and type in a SINGLE keyword from the title (I used “Conservatives”) - that always reveals a thread if it exists.

Bingo, a fellow successful searcher. I fully agree. Most people try typing in the whole title and it doesn't work due to typos.

I wish the default for the dropdown was "titles."

24 posted on 10/22/2009 8:48:33 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Dammit, GOP, grow a pair.

But even if they grow a pair, they're still going to be a couple short.

25 posted on 10/22/2009 8:51:39 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: RogerFGay

I am of the opinion that we conservatives have more work to do to clean our own house, than to clean out Obama and pals.


26 posted on 10/22/2009 8:52:37 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: Cicero

I agree with you. We have to look back clear to 2000 to see where we conservatives went wrong, and we went wrong by electing George Bush, RINO.

A TRUE conservative does NOT hand over all three branches of government to socialists.


27 posted on 10/22/2009 8:54:48 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: RogerFGay

Conservatives roar; RINOS and msm tremble.


28 posted on 10/22/2009 8:55:37 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: RogerFGay; Cboldt; lgjhn23; Right Wing Assault; Uncle Miltie; Leisler; AmericanVictory; ...
If you like this thread, there are two other postings, with lots of comments. See: I think the New York 23rd congressional district race is an opportunity for the conservatives to speak loudly to the GOP leadership. The Radical libeRal leftist (with the big “R”) may come in 3rd in this race. If anything, she will be the one that cost the second place finisher the race.

Doug Hoffman is the Conservative alternative in this race (or Hoffman by PayPal).

Markos Moulitsas, founder of The Daily Kos has endorsed Scozzafava. Dede Scozzafava has also been endorsed by NYSUT, the largest labor union in New York, and an affiliate of the National Education Association.

Scozzafava also holds these positions:

Scozzafava has also run in past elections on the Working Families Party (a progressive party associated with ACORN) line on the ballot.

This lady isn’t a RINO, she is a big “R” libeRal democRat. Mark Steyn has coined the term DIABLO for her and others like her. Democrat In All But Label Only.

There are also at least 17 unprincipled DIABLO enablers in the house who have donated funds or otherwise supported to this LibeRal democRat's DIABLO’s campaign. They include Boehner, Cantor, Sessions, Hensarling, Brown-Waite and McCotter. I don’t have a full list, but I will be looking for it. These unprincipled enablers should be targeted for elimination in the primaries next year. Also, perhaps those of us who donated to the RNC or RCCC should ask for our money back so we can support the conservative candidates of our choice.

More threads ...
From the desk of
cc2k:
I support Doug Hoffman for Congress (PayPal).

Please, spread the word about this important election on November 3, 2009 in New York’s 23rd congressional district.

29 posted on 10/22/2009 8:59:14 AM PDT by cc2k (I have donated to Doug Hoffman, have you? [check my recent reply posts])
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To: deannadurbin
I am of the opinion that we conservatives have more work to do to clean our own house, than to clean out Obama and pals.

As a conservative, I'd have to say that the Republican Party is not my house.
30 posted on 10/22/2009 9:01:15 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

You are going to let them KICK YOU OUT of YOUR HOUSE?...not me....I’m going back in and reclaiming it!


31 posted on 10/22/2009 9:13:35 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Democrats are RACISTS and are afraid of losing their PLANTATION workers)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Dammit, GOP, grow a pair..

— without coming off to the broader public as cranky and extreme.

Remember John McCain? The MSM flayed this milktoast liberal as "cranky and extreme." IT DOESN'T MATTER who is nominated to run against a Democrat, he/she will be portrayed in the worst possible light by the Soros Press.

Give the electorate a steel balled or steel wooled candidate, then swing for the fences...

32 posted on 10/22/2009 9:27:15 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: RogerFGay
The share of independents in the electorate is the highest in 70 years (36 percent), while the share of voters who call themselves Republicans is the lowest in 30 years (23 percent).

These numbers will continue to grow as conservatives become more and more disgusted with the GOP. I am just about ready to change party affiliation myself as many here on FR have already done.

33 posted on 10/22/2009 9:36:43 AM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: RogerFGay

The Democrats in the media (and at Free Republic) are working overtime to make sure the party stays split and out of power. How many articles has anyone seen that documents the very real split in the Democrat party?


34 posted on 10/22/2009 9:43:44 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: RogerFGay

GOP F****D themselves, no one else to blame.

NO WAY they take back the House in `10.

ZERO CHANCE.


35 posted on 10/22/2009 9:44:45 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: RogerFGay
Gee, ya think maybe it's time to throw the GOP's RINO pedigreed Rainbow Poodles under the buss and get on about the business of becoming and AMERICAN Republic again?

What would TJ do?

36 posted on 10/22/2009 9:45:25 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: goodnesswins

Be sure to let us know how that turns out.


37 posted on 10/22/2009 9:56:38 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
Politico claims to be conservative and they are.

In the image of McCain, Lindsay Graham, Lamar Alexander, etc.

They can't get it through their heads that they are living in a bubble, talking to their own, more concerned with keeping their own power through going along to get along to realize that outside the beltway the mood has changed.

The RNC and the in crowd are totally out of touch with the rest of the country and it is going to cost them big time if they do not wake up.

They will lose in 2010 and by 2012 it will all be over.

38 posted on 10/22/2009 10:15:52 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: deannadurbin

Last night, I was listening to Lamar Alexander on fox, and he was making me sick talking about bipartisan politics.

Today, Lindsay Graham was talking about reducing carbon to help global warming.

Ughh! Can we get rid of both of them! There are definitely times when I wonder what does the republican party stand for these days. I’m glad the conservatives are standing up!!


39 posted on 10/22/2009 10:25:19 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: RogerFGay

Oh, I will....


40 posted on 10/22/2009 10:54:03 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Democrats are RACISTS and are afraid of losing their PLANTATION workers)
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To: Ol' Sparky

This line sounds like something that would bother Orrin G. Hatch, for instance.


41 posted on 10/22/2009 11:56:30 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: deannadurbin

Yes, we went wrong in 2000. I would have voted for Pat on the third line had I had another shot at that race, not that it would have mattered of course. Anyone with half a brain could have known that going with another Bush would be perfidious.


42 posted on 10/22/2009 11:58:25 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: luckystarmom

I guess TN and SC people like that bipartisanship. They have grown long past the ascerbic General Andrew Jackson.


43 posted on 10/22/2009 11:59:16 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: RogerFGay

There is OF COURSE a solution here: REPUBLICAN PARTY stop being Timid. Go out and articulate Conservative principles (or at least your own, that you “claim” to believe in, in your party platform!)..


44 posted on 10/22/2009 12:02:18 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: JSDude1

Don’t you think most people have had enough with Republicans pretending to be conservative?


45 posted on 10/22/2009 12:14:41 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: cc2k

Markos Moulitsswhatever.....?

I ever a name should sink this cow’s candidacy, THIS should be it.


46 posted on 10/22/2009 12:18:13 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: RogerFGay

The extreme radical right of the party will turn off the electorate, however portraying “conservatives” as the radical right, is like painting Zell Mill as the radical left. Its nonsnense.

The GOP better get its head out of its own butts, and realize that we are a conservative electorate by definition. Its been the abandonment of conservative principles that has cost the GOP the 06 and 08 elections, not the fact conservatives are scaring away voters. At least not voters that you had any chance of winning in the first place.


47 posted on 10/22/2009 12:24:17 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Those currently in power want more power. The more they control, the more gifts they’ll get. The wealthier they’ll be. It’s as simple as that. So, Republicans will continue behaving as if Hillary Clinton supporters are “centrists” and anyone to the right of that is an extremist.


48 posted on 10/22/2009 12:30:12 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

Republican Party = Whigs

Its just a matter of time


49 posted on 10/22/2009 4:24:46 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet)
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To: RogerFGay
The GOP is afraid of standing for principle. That is why it will lose again. Good riddance!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

50 posted on 10/22/2009 6:12:48 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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