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How Crazy are those “Birthers?”
Canada Free Press ^ | Thursday, October 15, 2009 | By JB Williams

Posted on 10/21/2009 2:53:45 PM PDT by MestaMachine

...after the terror attacks of 9/11/01, there were indeed a few Americans who honestly believed that the federal government was so corrupt that it was behind and responsible for the events of September 11th. Even though we all watched in shock, as hijacked planes flew into the twin towers, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field, these folks imagined that someone in Washington DC might have blown up those buildings instead.

These believers were labeled “truthers”—
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Most Americans passed these folks off as crackpots—mentally unstable individuals
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So when very normal people starting asking who this grand nobody from Chicago was, who appeared out of thin air with a blank résumé and a billion dollar campaign fund from donors around the globe, they were labeled “birthers” for questioning the “Natural Born Citizen” status of a mystery messiah seeking the Oval Office.

Every mainstream media outlet in America has either ignored the question, or joined the chorus of pro-Obama propagandists in discrediting “birthers” as the same crackpots known as “truthers.”

What had “birthers” done that was so over the top? They asked to see Barack Obama’s birth certificate, and to date, they have been denied that “crazy” request. In fact, multiple law suits have been filed across the country in numerous forms, simply seeking access to Obama’s personal history, and most recently, a judge has fined one of those attorney’s $20,000 for “filing frivolous law suits” on the matter.

Meanwhile, taxpayers have picked up the tab for over $1.5 MILLION in Obama legal defense fees, used to keep Obama’s birth certificate, his school and college records, his passport and travel records and his law practice files Top Secret. So far, the “transparent president” is anything but “transparent.” He is the ONLY president in US history to hide his entire past.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; conspiracytheory; eligibility; giveitarest; naturalborncitizen; obama
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As heard on The Quinn and Rose show this morning. This is no small step for making people aware that this is an entirely legitmate issue, and we deserve a legitmate answer.
1 posted on 10/21/2009 2:53:45 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: MestaMachine

We are now “Vetters” (anyone okay with that?) lol


2 posted on 10/21/2009 2:54:43 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MestaMachine

This is legit ... Why didn’t Obama and his cronies remove the link to the APs 2004 article titled Kenya Born Obama Elected to Senate, or did they overlook this one.


3 posted on 10/21/2009 2:56:19 PM PDT by fujimoh
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To: LucyT; null and void; BP2; ~Kim4VRWC's~; pissant

More from the article:
Now, how reasonable is Obama’s behavior, and how unreasonable is the behavior of the so-called “birther?”

Natural Born Citizen

Article II—Section I—Clause 5 of the US Constitution requires that ONLY a “natural born citizen” hold the office of President. It’s no secret what they meant or why that clause exists. It is a matter of national security.

Lets not play any games here… too many games have been played with this phrase already. It’s a very simple term that anyone with a dictionary can figure out.

Not just any ole “citizen…”

Not Native—“belonging to a particular place by birth”

Not Naturalized—“to confer the rights of a national on; especially : to admit to citizenship” (as with an immigrant)

But NATURAL—“Pertaining to nature; produced or effected by nature, or by the laws of growth, formation or motion impressed on bodies or beings by divine power.”


4 posted on 10/21/2009 2:56:54 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: Vendome

Vetter works for me.

Orly= Ivana Vetyu


5 posted on 10/21/2009 2:57:21 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Vendome

Oh yeah, Oh YEAH!
Vetters works for me.


6 posted on 10/21/2009 2:58:54 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: MestaMachine

Well, the Clintons pointed the way on hiding certain aspects oftheir personal histories while fuzzing the hard edges of certain other aspect that were too big to hide.

Barry has just take this gambit to its logical conclusion.


7 posted on 10/21/2009 3:02:31 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: MestaMachine

An excellent summary. Great quote:

“He is the ONLY president in US history to hide his entire past.”


8 posted on 10/21/2009 3:04:31 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Vendome

How about Constitutionalists? The Constitution sets out the rules but some feel they are above the rules.


9 posted on 10/21/2009 3:06:25 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: ElayneJ

“the ONLY president in US history to hide his entire past”

possibly in the history of democratic or republican government, worldwide, throughout history.


10 posted on 10/21/2009 3:09:29 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: ElayneJ

“Great quote:”

There are several descriptive phrases I like.
“mystery messiah” is catchy.
“barack the magic negro” from the LA Times immortalized in song by Paul Shanklin for Rush.
“mighty mo and little o” I made up all by muhself.


11 posted on 10/21/2009 3:09:33 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: MestaMachine
He is the ONLY president in US history to hide his entire past.

An impartial observer would, of course, be highly suspicious.

And where's our "news" media on this? They only THINK that they are fellow travelers. Wait until they figure out that they are merely common chattel, and they were way too pliant and obedient (and that it's too late to run the story.)

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12 posted on 10/21/2009 3:10:08 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: All

More from the article:
The US Senate got it exactly right in 2008 in their unanimous resolution proclaiming John McCain a “natural born citizen” of the Unites States of America, based upon the well-known fact that BOTH of his parents were indeed legal citizens of the United States at the time of John’s birth. In other words, by “divine power” and the “laws of growth,” “produced by nature” of the fact that his parents were US citizens, so was John McCain, by birth right via natural ancestry.

However, no such Senate resolution concerning Barack Obama exists, and the standard applied to John McCain is NOT being applied to Barack Obama.

The Birth Certificate

Obama supporters like Snopes and FactCheck claim to have a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, but they do NOT. I challenge any reader of this column to send me a certified copy of Obama’s actual birth certificate and I will gladly disclose it to the public along with a retraction of this statement.

I won’t get one, because no such document has ever been released by Obama. End of story!

END OF STORY!!!
(but NOT end of article....)


13 posted on 10/21/2009 3:16:17 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: ElayneJ

“He is the ONLY president in US history to hide his entire past.”

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He is the ONLY president in US history allowed to hide his entire past simply because congress-critters do not have the courage to do the job they were elected and paid to do.


14 posted on 10/21/2009 3:16:49 PM PDT by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Erase Socialism)
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To: bgill
Better Vetter Constitutionalists?
15 posted on 10/21/2009 3:17:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Canedawg

lol


16 posted on 10/21/2009 3:17:50 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MestaMachine

That post touches on a truly amazing (and terrifying) truth -

That only 7 short years ofter the worst terrorist attack in US History, carried out by Muslims (and cheered on by many Muslims around the world, including right here in the USA), “we” elect a president with very strong ties to Islam, having been a documented practicing Muslim for a significant portion of his life, who has family who are still practicing Muslims, and who admits that he loves the sound of the Islamic call to prayer...

Truly a sign of how far our nation has fallen.

And then top it off with the fact that this same president refuses to open up records that every other president has been more than willing to open up for public scrutiny.


17 posted on 10/21/2009 3:18:12 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: bgill

In other news, the Obama Adiministration, which took over several banks and a czar company or two, has decided by force of government to slash slash executive pay by more 90%.

No top executive will earn more than $200,000 in total compensation. All perks such as limo, private jet, country club membership will have to be applied for and through the government.

After hours stocks turned in late day trading for the financial services sector on fears of further regulations.


18 posted on 10/21/2009 3:20:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MestaMachine

ping


19 posted on 10/21/2009 3:23:10 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: MestaMachine
McCain wasn’t born on US soil, BHO was.

The only real issue is whether a person needs two citizen parents to be an NBC and that did not have the clear legal support that it needed prior to the election.

20 posted on 10/21/2009 3:25:47 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Vendome; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

Does it not seem to you the American people are waking up? Slowly but surely and even Europe is starting to show resistance to Islamism and global Obamination.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/10/our-village-idiot.html


21 posted on 10/21/2009 3:25:51 PM PDT by FARS (Be happy, Be well and Thrive)
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To: MestaMachine
First of all... I know I will get flamed for this and yes I am a birther.

I don't think you can lump all "truthers" into one group. I am of the opinion that we did not get and may never get the complete truth about the 9/11 attacks. Just like I think we did not get the whole truth about Flight 800. This does not mean that I think that the gubermint brought down the buildings themselves. I just don't trust that all the information given to us by the government, regardless of which party is in office, is always the truth. I believe government often tries to conceal truth, with the help of the MSM, because they think they know what is best for the masses.

Flame away.

22 posted on 10/21/2009 3:26:23 PM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: El Sordo

That might be the only real issue for YOU, but the majority of us want to know who this scambag really is. Admit it. Ain’t you just a skosh curious your own self?


23 posted on 10/21/2009 3:28:20 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: El Sordo

Prove it.


24 posted on 10/21/2009 3:28:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: FARS

In other news, the Obama Adiministration, which took over several banks and a czar company or two, has decided by force of government to slash slash executive pay by more 90%.

No top executive will earn more than $200,000 in total compensation. All perks such as limo, private jet, country club membership will have to be applied for and through the government.

After hours stocks turned in late day trading for the financial services sector on fears of further regulations.

Let’s see what happens in the financial markets.


25 posted on 10/21/2009 3:29:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

Cheney is pounding bam into the ground on Afghanistan! Woo hoo!!!


26 posted on 10/21/2009 3:30:09 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: MestaMachine

Is he on tv?


27 posted on 10/21/2009 3:31:01 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: FARS

Hi, FARS. Yep! And it’s about time!


28 posted on 10/21/2009 3:31:37 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: MestaMachine
I know who he is.

He’s a rabid, dyed in the wool leftist who is horribly naive about evil in this world. Though that is somewhat redundant. He's also woefully inexperienced and in way over his head in the Presidency.

There's not a lot more that needs to be known.

29 posted on 10/21/2009 3:31:41 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Vendome

Prove it?

Prove what?


30 posted on 10/21/2009 3:32:24 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo

That.


31 posted on 10/21/2009 3:33:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

Fox had a film clip at the top of Special Report. Don’t know if the video is up yet. It might show up again during the panel discussion.


32 posted on 10/21/2009 3:33:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: MestaMachine
0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.


33 posted on 10/21/2009 3:34:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Imagine the uproar when people imagine what Rush says?)
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To: El Sordo
McCain wasn’t born on US soil, BHO was.

Until such time as you can actually prove with acceptable documentation that BHO was born on US soil, it's only your opinion that he was. Not established fact.

34 posted on 10/21/2009 3:34:50 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MestaMachine

I will look for it this evening


35 posted on 10/21/2009 3:34:52 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

great name!


36 posted on 10/21/2009 3:36:03 PM PDT by cvq3842 (A fool and his liberty are soon parted.)
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To: Vendome

That what?


37 posted on 10/21/2009 3:36:10 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo

Ah, so you take Fukino’s word for that ... you have to be so trusting of these marxist since there is zero public proof other than Fukino’s proclamtion.


38 posted on 10/21/2009 3:36:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: ElayneJ

And America elected him.

I always wondered how Germany fell for such a lunatic in the 1930’s. Now, unfortunately, I have a clue.


39 posted on 10/21/2009 3:37:42 PM PDT by cvq3842 (A fool and his liberty are soon parted.)
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To: cvq3842

A lot of people like vetter, Better and I am looking for the poster that originally gave it to me so I can give props.


40 posted on 10/21/2009 3:39:38 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: FARS

Conan O’Brien did a skit where it got mentioned, so yea, its getting noticed at last!

It doesn’t matter where Obama was born, HIS FATHER WAS BRITISH! He could never have been a Natural Born Citizen!


41 posted on 10/21/2009 3:39:55 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: El Sordo

I was waiting for him to respond so I could bounce the words conjecture, assumed and maybe, off his head.

Then follow up with proof, verifiable, unimpeachable.

At this time all I have your conjecture. Guess I will have to take your word for it.

lol


42 posted on 10/21/2009 3:40:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: El Sordo

And how did he get to that lofty position? All by himself?


43 posted on 10/21/2009 3:40:40 PM PDT by Exit148 (Loose Change Founder. A little goes a long way!)
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To: Windflier

The preponderance of evidence clearly demonstrates that BHO was born in Hawaii. If you wish to ignore this, that’s fine.

If you want to engage in fantasies that BHO was born in Kenya/Indonesia/Canada, that’s fine too.

Just please don’t be surprised if it doesn’t ever get you anywhere.


44 posted on 10/21/2009 3:40:50 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Danae
It doesn’t matter where Obama was born, HIS FATHER WAS BRITISH! He could never have been a Natural Born Citizen!

An interpretation of "natural born" that never occurred to anyone until after the election.

45 posted on 10/21/2009 3:41:29 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: El Sordo

Let me bounce the words conjecture, assumed and maybe, off your head, the inside.

Then let’s follow up with proof, verifiable, unimpeachable.

At this time all I have your conjecture. Guess I will have to take your word for it.

lol

fixed.


46 posted on 10/21/2009 3:41:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: murphE

Not gonna flame you for being honest, MurphE. I have questions about both those subjects myself.


47 posted on 10/21/2009 3:42:02 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: MHGinTN
Fukino is one source, yes.

Tell me, is there an equivalent source where a public official is on record stating that they personally viewed the state birth records and verified that BHO was born somewhere other than Hawaii?

48 posted on 10/21/2009 3:45:00 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Vendome
As I said to Windflier:

The preponderance of evidence clearly demonstrates that BHO was born in Hawaii. If you wish to ignore this, that’s fine.

If you want to engage in fantasies that BHO was born in Kenya/Indonesia/Canada, that’s fine too.

Just please don’t be surprised if it doesn’t ever get you anywhere.

If you have proof, verifiable and unimpeachable, I'd sure like to see it.

49 posted on 10/21/2009 3:46:56 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo

The preponderance of exactly WHAT evidence? Every shred of evidence that exists suggests he was never born at all. LOL
Maybe mama bam was a jackal for all we know.


50 posted on 10/21/2009 3:47:29 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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