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Man chokes on hot dog, death ruled homicide
ABC News ^ | October 20, 2009 | Sandra Bookman

Posted on 10/20/2009 1:58:27 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

NEW YORK (WABC) -- A man chokes to death on a hot dog over the summer but now the accident has been re-classified as a homicide.

The victim, a 65-year-old man died when he suffered a seizure eating a hot dog at his apartment in Chelsea. But now the Medical Examiner says Crawford's seizures were caused by an attack against him 44 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: crawford

1 posted on 10/20/2009 1:58:27 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Generally, if the victim survives for a year after an assault, homocide is ruled out. Any brutal beating will shorten your life, most likely.


2 posted on 10/20/2009 2:02:10 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Had that woman, Miss Lawinsky, such problems. The world would be different today.......


3 posted on 10/20/2009 2:02:36 PM PDT by llevrok (As a matter of fact, yes I DO care if Jimmy cracks corn !)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You have to die within the year of an attack for it to be murder in most states.


4 posted on 10/20/2009 2:03:40 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Good grief! Drama, drama, everywhere.


5 posted on 10/20/2009 2:03:45 PM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Sounds like a CSI episode.


6 posted on 10/20/2009 2:04:09 PM PDT by earlJam
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To: Berlin_Freeper; Slings and Arrows; Revolting cat!

Snack Attack...


7 posted on 10/20/2009 2:11:48 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The character assassination of Rush Limbaugh is worse than what the Left accused Joe McCarthy of.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

More importantly, WILL OBAMACARE COVER IT?


8 posted on 10/20/2009 2:17:22 PM PDT by Mr. K (My biggest fear is that one of my typos becomes a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: earlJam

Actually, I have to say that CSI Miami jumped the shark last night with an episode on tracking e. coli in lettuce to a menacing big, bad agribusiness firm. While I generally enjoy the show - you almost wonder if there was a writer’s strike several months ago and they filmed a script that was blown in over the transom and picked at random - it was pathetic.


9 posted on 10/20/2009 2:17:31 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

My wife watched the same episode. Fortunately I went to bed. Said it was so bad she may never watch CSI Miami again.


10 posted on 10/20/2009 2:41:29 PM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

A real left wing piece of crap of a CSI Miami show. Hard to believe that Caruso and Company even agreed to work on filming it. Unless they get some decent story lines, that show is history for me. Pure BS nonsense of a script.


11 posted on 10/20/2009 2:57:10 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: TheThirdRuffian
"You have to die within the year of an attack for it to be murder in most states."

A lot of states have "the year and a day rule," although others have no time period if the death results directly from the assault. Here's a recent example...

Death of former Colt results in murder charges, 27 years later ...

Personally, I'd like to see the time period generally ruled out, largely because people could simply use HIV+ blood as a murder weapon and never get charged with it.

12 posted on 10/20/2009 3:04:58 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken; MPJackal; CdMGuy

dont you remember this is the week that hollywood is doing shows that promote ‘green’ and ‘volunteerism’ and other items on “the agenda”...

Im serious...

also, look for the ads for iparticipate.org...part of the same agenda. Now tv is trying to indoctrinate us with this crap.

remember that the NEA (Nat’l Endowment for Arts) was caught a few weeks back meeting with the WHite House about how they could help promote the Obama agenda.

I suspect this is from the same pow-wow


13 posted on 10/20/2009 3:06:19 PM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: Berlin_Freeper

So far, police aren’t sure there’s even a record of the decades old attack. and while Thomas Arneel remembers it, he doesn’t think that killed his friend.

“I don’t believe so. I believe if quick medical attention were there, he would have been alive,” says Arneel.”

So Arneel (neigbor who gave failed CPR) should be sued for failure to provide “quick medical attention”....

... even if he isn’t a doctor....

....after all, he plays one during interviews....


14 posted on 10/20/2009 3:08:19 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Don't keep us in suspense ...

... any idea what Caruso's stupid pun was that week?

15 posted on 10/20/2009 3:08:22 PM PDT by x
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Respect for the law is ruined by Prosecutor’s ham sandwiches.


16 posted on 10/20/2009 3:50:22 PM PDT by bvw
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To: CdMGuy

It was such a deviation from the normal quality of their episodes. I mean - the series has to be almost fatally funny to real CSI folks, who are poorly funded, have bleak office settings, and never carry weapons or arrest perps. The dramatic amalgam of a scientist/crime scene tech/detective/near prosecutor is a big stretch, but generally they carry it off. That show last night was weak in several dimensions - they should lose the episode and keep it out of reruns, it was that bad.


17 posted on 10/20/2009 3:56:26 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

CSI Miami, and David Carruso for that matter, have always sucked. I much prefer CSI: NY and CSI: LV.


18 posted on 10/20/2009 4:05:02 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer; Wally_Kalbacken; MPJackal; CdMGuy

I didn’t realize this was the promote green, etc week, but I have to disagree with you folks who had a problem with last night’s CSI. I actually found it riveting. And while I acknowledge some of it was a bit over board, there was a whole lot more truth in it than most folks want to believe.


19 posted on 10/20/2009 4:12:10 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
So does that mean that Mama Cass was murdered too, when she choked on the ham sandwich?

Yes, I know that's an urban legend.

20 posted on 10/20/2009 4:14:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: a fool in paradise

That hot dog’s gonna need a good lawyer.


21 posted on 10/20/2009 4:15:36 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("When France chides you for appeasement, you know you're scraping bottom." --Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Gabz

No way. They essentially portrayed the CEO as incompetent. Forget being greedy. If you believed the story line, he was not testing the hybrid corn to determine its safety. They portrayed him as not caring, or possibly even knowing. So, this guy is going to ruin his company financially by not paying attention to the safety of his product. I do not think so. Just one more effort to villify senior business executives. The overwhelming majority of business people do not operate in that manner no matter how much our current government wants us to think so.


22 posted on 10/20/2009 4:41:13 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: CdMGuy

I still stand by my statement that while some was over the top, there was much truth in it.

I guess it is my own personal biases, but there was much more truth in that episode last night when it comes to the practices of many corporate agribusiness/megafarms than most folks realize. I see it on a regular basis practically outside my front door. The small independent farmers are screwed over on a daily basis by the conglomerates who just don’t give a rat’s rear end about anything other than the bottom line, and yes they do cut corners that do endanger the public.


23 posted on 10/20/2009 4:53:02 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Sounds like there are at least three major hurdles the prosecution would have to overcome in this case. (1) Identifying and finding the perp, (2) proving he’s really the perp, and (3) proving the guy died because of the assault. Lots of room for reasonable doubt.


24 posted on 10/20/2009 5:04:19 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Berlin_Freeper

GW bush’s grand father supplied hot dogs to the nazi’s during ww2....That’s how they amassed their fortune.


25 posted on 10/20/2009 5:04:24 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

When I was in high school in a rural area of VA, a much loved kid who was in a hurry to report for his shift as a volunteer rescue squad member scarfed down a hot dog or two for dinner. He took a shower afterward and was in the bathroom too long. Family members went in to check on him and found him dead.

His death was ruled a result of choking on the partially regurgitated hot dog. It was a horrible episode for a really wonderful family. No one ever thought to do anything other than chalk it up to God wanting Tony back early.

I am shocked that a ME would not recognize that a hot dog eaten quickly and belched up at just the right angle could not choke a person to death.


26 posted on 10/20/2009 5:17:51 PM PDT by lovesdogs (10/20/09 - 1076 days left until obama is toast/376 until midterms.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Freaking ridiculous!


27 posted on 10/20/2009 5:26:36 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Gabz

The problems I had were with them straying from the usual homicide investigation into the “Larry the Cable Guy Health Inspector” realm.

I also think at one point when they were explaining the genetic engineering of the modified corn (which led to the botulinum toxin, etc.) there was mention of the genetic modification being made to allow cellulose to break down and be digestible to humans. At that point I had to laugh because you wouldn’t have corn standing without the strength of the cell walls provided by cellulose. They seem to have run quickly over that one - assuming that the audience was not at least minimally knowledgeable.

Don’t get me wrong - I’m a frequent viewer of the show. I just though that episode was unusual - and off the mark.


28 posted on 10/20/2009 8:02:56 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Joe 6-pack
If I recall, Andy Warhol was hospitalized (and died) in the 1980s related to his injury from the 1960s shooting.

Conversely, John Connelly, who was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald, did not die from complications from the shooting (to my knowledge). I seem to recall that there was some interest in recovering the remaining bullet fragments.

29 posted on 10/22/2009 10:33:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The character assassination of Rush Limbaugh is worse than what the Left accused Joe McCarthy of.)
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